Mini 1742: game over

[mykonian]

votecount

Wickan (3): JohnnyFarrar, Frozen Angel, ICEninja
Albert B. Rampage (2): RadiantCowbells, talah
ICEninja (2): Albert B. Rampage, Titus
JohnnyFarrar (1): A Simple Plan
Taly (1): Wickan
Titus (1): Taly

not voting (0):

[Wickan]

@ICE: if you knew for a fact that I was town, would you still find Titus scummy at all? Your suspicion of Titus seems mostly (though not completely) dependent on his defense of me.

[RadiantCowbells]

I have little to no desire to engage with you because I find all your reads frankly abhorrent and I have two incredibly strong scumreads.

If you want to badger me for info you can go ahead but I'm not worried about you at the moment.

[Titus]

Scum is in

RC Taly Ice Johnny Talah ASP

Gut says nope to talah asp so like 10 there
Johnny I would only vote deadline against myself

There that's my reads till we get a flip or someone else obvtowns. :-p

You wanted more townreads here you go Italy. Lols.

[Titus]

Reading between the lines is scumhunting Taly sorry to bother you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I note you didn't bring up Wickan, who is slightly relevant as one of the main wagons of the day.

[Titus]

He's not scum. Nor is FA. Nor is ABR. I won't vote em. Would rather NL or be lynched myself.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean you literally just named my lynchpool minus FA who is nulltown and said you'd rather NL or get lynched yourself.

So, we're at one hell of an impasse here.

If you're reading off of connections, do you think that maybe assuming I'm scum is ruining your entire game?

[Titus]

So you're saying I townread your entire lynchpool, and I should think you're town? Hahaha.

[Titus]

You could be a major townbeard...

[RadiantCowbells]

This Wickan wagon is crap.

RC is voting someone who she has a townread on and didn't move the vote. Wicked points this out and votes RC.

Johnny immediately votes Wicked, saying his post is uninspiring. Hold on, wtf? Town shouldn't vote townreads unless deadline is here. Wicked is townish for the pressure. I don't get why a vote there.

Taly agrees with my reasoning on RC, yet votes Wicked anyway...

FA is basically flailing looking for an acceptable wagon.

VOTE: RC

This is your first post addressing the Wicked wagon and you basically say that the WAGON is crap without saying anything about the player because:

RC is scum for townreading FA and failing to move the vote. Because that makes a ton of sense.
FA is flailing (which she's not, even if she appears to) and therefore her vote might not be good.
Taly's vote isn't good because he should be voting me ???
Johnny (who is legit obvtown) voted him over people that you believe he was scumreading more, and you have an issue with that.

So basically the crux of what you've stated here is that everyone should be voting RC (who is town), and that his (town) vote and that FA is flailing therefore her vote casts a dark shadow over the wagon.
No explanation of why what you perceive as flailing from FA is particularly scummy.

Next, we have:

1) Wickan wagon sucks
2) people push stale wagon
3) Wickan is saying what I think.
4) ice scumslip argument is shit

1) we just established is sheer idiocy.
2) stale wagoning isn't a thing. I will vote park for an entire day phase if that's what it takes to get shit done.
3) Like, this legit may make him more likely to be town in your eyes. But we have no guarantees of your alignment and nothing he says meshes with anything I think so it means fuck to me.
4) I agree, but this doesn't say shit about Wickan either.

So, yeah. Your read on the biggest wagon of the day is terrible and essentially says I'm blanket townreading Wickan because RC is scum!!
Who is the potential townbeard here again? And to be fair, I'm leaning on all 3 of you/ABR/Wicked being scum but if you're not town, you're the definite choice for that honour.

[Titus]

Your vote was shit and is always shit regardless of your alignment. If you're legit careless with your vote, why should I believe anything else you do is that thought out?
FA's vote on Wicked had no substance or anything just sheepage.
Taly agreeing with my read on you being scummy but voting elsewhere is

the exact way I caught you as blade dancer

Yeah, I do have an issue with Johnny not voting his major scumreads early.

None of the votes were good.

We established the votes on Wicked were shit.
I will votepark too if it is what it takes but not at the expense of discussing other reads. If all the wagons suck, vote park. But if they don't, then why not move?
Done on 3.
Done on 4.

So where is the beef to the Wickan case? It's been RVS that's stuck around after I started fingering the real scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Your vote was shit and is always shit regardless of your alignment. If you're legit careless with your vote, why should I believe anything else you do is that thought out?

I see no reason to respond to the rest of this post.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Wicked

If only because it's ostensibly going to bug and/or frustrate her, town or otherwise.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean, in your experience with me, people I've legitimately been scumreading and not just voting while I sift have virtually never been wrong.

I mean, I even yanked you out as scum and got you lynched in 185.

And you saw me solve the entire scumteam with 0 scum flipped thus far in le game.

So that comment just doesn't mesh with reality, Titus's opinion of me based on her experience, or just about anything honestly.

[Frozen Angel]

FA's vote on Wicked had no substance or anything just sheepage.

any problem with that?

I want to test reactions. and you two's reactions are just not townish ...

and your 4 reasons sucks because :
1 ) wagons of day 1 happens just like this every time.
2 ) whats wrong about it?
3 ) so that proves his town? you may .... as well
4 ) so someone is not scum because I found someone else scummy?

@Wiccon respond to post 343 :

- accusing others is not scummy. being offensive when people are accusing you too hard is indeed.
- so you accept your not playing good? thats not townish.
- that's just categorizing not reading. I want your full / detailed reads bro.

[RadiantCowbells]

Honestly, that makes me want to speedlynch Titus.

I get the feeling that she wants to present the image that she's mad at me and make it seem like this is some sort of grudge vote against me so that people don't ask so many questions.

I don't get a distinct impression in general though that Titus still has issues with me and so that comment was, frankly, jarring.

I find it difficult to reconcile with any interpretation of the gamestate.

[RadiantCowbells]

You want me to vote you?

Let's play. VOTE: Titus

[Albert B. Rampage]

scummy as hell ^

[Frozen Angel]

nah its just RC being RC

[RadiantCowbells]

Albert, this absenteeism accompanied with flying in calling shit scummy and no explanations seems quite similar to your scum game.

You know what I'm le saying here.

[RadiantCowbells]

FA, RC isn't generally scummy.
In fact, RC isn't scummy in this game. He's towny as fk.
Have you seen me get mislynched? Doesn't happen often. In fact, I'm maf kill bait pretty much, even when I'm obvsly VT.

[RadiantCowbells]

Can't use my own strategies against me.

Tee hee~

[Frozen Angel]

FA, RC isn't generally scummy.
In fact, RC isn't scummy in this game. He's towny as fk.
Have you seen me get mislynched? Doesn't happen often. In fact, I'm maf kill bait pretty much, even when I'm obvsly VT.

I'll like to settle you down in next days. for now I want more about wiccon-titus connection so do your job and pressure titus for me please ...

[RadiantCowbells]

What do you mean when you tell me to settle down?