Micro 547: Searching For Dragons (Game Over)

Persivul · Post Post #625 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:39 pm

You claimed to be roleblocked N1, which is fine. Would you be roleblocked again N2? Absolutely.

So, Vedith would have targeted you N2 and made you strong-willed, which overcomes roleblocks.

The Betting Pool · Post Post #626 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:49 pm

I don't have an answer as to why he didn't pers, I got the same result I got yesterday that the mod confirmed was the same as a no result. So either Vedith didn't target me or I'm receiving no result for a different reason.

goodmorning · Post Post #627 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:11 pm

In post 608, goodmorning wrote:
15: In Which Everyone Argues

Votecount 3.0Not Voting [5] - Persivul, The Betting Pool, Tere, Firebringer, FA_Q2

With 5 alive, it takes
3
to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2015-12-11 15:00:00).

Persivul · Post Post #628 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:53 pm

In post 626, The Betting Pool wrote:I don't have an answer as to why he didn't pers, I got the same result I got yesterday that the mod confirmed was the same as a no result. So either Vedith didn't target me or I'm receiving no result for a different reason.

Unfortunately Vedith should logically have targeted you N1, but he didn't, or he would have contested your claim of being blocked. I didn't want to point that out until you responded. Your response seems genuine.

Currently I see FB as scum (see my argument from yesterday) and FA as town (read FA's ISO - can't see him being FB's partner). That leaves you and Tere. We only have a couple posts from Tere. We need a Tere replacement to come in, catch up, and post.

Firebringer · Post Post #629 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:46 pm

Okay GM....you have to stop doing Placeholder VCs...Also the nights are too damn long.
And it took like 3 days for last time lynched ap layer for us to get the FLIP!!!

#Annoyed.

Firebringer · Post Post #630 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:47 pm

In post 628, Persivul wrote:Currently I see FB as scum (see my argument from yesterday) and FA as town (read FA's ISO - can't see him being FB's partner). That leaves you and Tere. We only have a couple posts from Tere. We need a Tere replacement to come in, catch up, and post.

So me and Tere/TBP okay...

What are you thoughts on me thinking its you and Tere?

FA_Q2 · Post Post #631 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:15 pm

In post 610, The Betting Pool wrote:FA, no result same as before. We're useless.

Same question as before. Why did you target me?

FA_Q2 · Post Post #632 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:24 pm

In post 628, Persivul wrote:
In post 626, The Betting Pool wrote:I don't have an answer as to why he didn't pers, I got the same result I got yesterday that the mod confirmed was the same as a no result. So either Vedith didn't target me or I'm receiving no result for a different reason.

Unfortunately Vedith should logically have targeted you N1, but he didn't, or he would have contested your claim of being blocked. I didn't want to point that out until you responded. Your response seems genuine.

Currently I see FB as scum (see my argument from yesterday) and FA as town (read FA's ISO - can't see him being FB's partner). That leaves you and Tere. We only have a couple posts from Tere. We need a Tere replacement to come in, catch up, and post.

This logic is sound. It makes me wonder what vedith was doing or if he even understood what his role could do. I find you as the top suspect after the last game day pers - that was not simply bad, it was fricking horrible. Tere did not even post that game day - you closed it out without even a consideration to hear what he may or may not have said and lost us any chance to get a read on that spot. We would at least have had something if he were forced to post. Derp hammers are not in town's interest.

You are correct though, we need the replacement to post. We simply cannot afford to allow that slot to remain under the radar. We are to close to losing this.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #633 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:24 pm

In post 613, The Betting Pool wrote:Firebringer just claimed scum

That is an awfully bold post.

Persivul · Post Post #634 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:39 pm

In post 632, FA_Q2 wrote:
This logic is sound. It makes me wonder what vedith was doing or if he even understood what his role could do.

That's what I'm thinking too. I just googled "mafia strongwill" and found it, but he might have thought it had something to do with the flavor.

What do you think about a massclaim? I think it would help at this point.

I find you as the top suspect after the last game day pers - that was not simply bad, it was fricking horrible. Tere did not even post that game day - you closed it out without even a consideration to hear what he may or may not have said and lost us any chance to get a read on that spot. We would at least have had something if he were forced to post. Derp hammers are not in town's interest.

Yes, that was a bad and admittedly emotional move that could cost town the game.

You are correct though, we need the replacement to post. We simply cannot afford to allow that slot to remain under the radar. We are to close to losing this.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:55 am

At this juncture, I don't see a solid reason not to mass claim.

We need to wait for the replacement before implementing a mass claim though.

Persivul · Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:35 am

Considering Tere's RL issues (checked her most recent posts), if it's FB/Tere, then FB is likely the roleblocker.

Firebringer · Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:22 am

In post 636, Persivul wrote:Considering Tere's RL issues (checked her most recent posts), if it's FB/Tere, then FB is likely the roleblocker.

What?
How?

The Betting Pool · Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:06 am

I think he means to imply that since tere would be gone that he couldnt have submitted a target so he can't be the RB that is targeting me. however some mods (myself included in the past) have allowed scum partners to submit their partners actions if they are not available to do so.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #639 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:47 am

Well...

That makes 2 days since anyone has posted. We need some discussion. TBP, you really have not bothered stating what you think of last night's flips. You have also ignored my rather direct question.

Pers, you have also ignored FB's question. (630)

Where are FB and TBP on pers idea of a mass claim? I think we should wait for the replacement before actually pushing forward and make the replacement go first. If Tere is scum, their replacement is more likely to screw up on a claim. If tere is town then it really does not matter.

FA_Q2 · Post Post #640 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:50 am

In post 638, The Betting Pool wrote:I think he means to imply that since tere would be gone that he couldnt have submitted a target so he can't be the RB that is targeting me. however some mods (myself included in the past) have allowed scum partners to submit their partners actions if they are not available to do so.

That is what I gather from that post as well though I think it is rather reaching. Trying to figure out what role one scum player may or may not be is rather wasted at this point anyway - we just need to hit scum.

goodmorning · Post Post #641 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:19 am

Deadline is on hold until I get a replacement.

Prodding people who need prodding.

lol

Firebringer · Post Post #642 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:32 am

Who needs prodding?

Firebringer · Post Post #643 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:33 am

In post 639, FA_Q2 wrote:Where are FB and TBP on pers idea of a mass claim?

I think we maybe in a LYLO, so I am all for it.

Persivul · Post Post #644 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 630, Firebringer wrote:What are you thoughts on me thinking its you and Tere?

You're scum and you need to pick a pair, so the person who's been abrasive and the person who's been absent are the best choice for you.

Persivul · Post Post #645 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:00 pm

In post 639, FA_Q2 wrote:Pers, you have also ignored FB's question. (630)

Done!

The Betting Pool · Post Post #646 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:58 pm

FA, I made the target choice last night. I opted for you because Persivul seemed like dumb town after the day phase/flip, Vedith was a town read, Firebringer I have some experience with, and Tere seemed like an inactive town read for most of the game's players. That left you as a slight town read upon looking at the whole game and one who, if scum, was likely to coast even if we hit scum today. Info on you would thus be most valuable to me.

And yes, mass claim today upon getting a replacement. I favor popcorn claiming with us selecting the first claimer, having already claimed ourselves.

--PA

Firebringer · Post Post #647 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:17 am

In post 644, Persivul wrote:You're scum and you need to pick a pair, so the person who's been abrasive and the person who's been absent are the best choice for you.

I wonder if I should use gamblers fallacy to determine your alignment right now.

Lets see last two games completed games with you, you were scum.
So this game, you cannot be scum, right?

Persivul · Post Post #648 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:27 am

In post 643, Firebringer wrote:
I think we maybe in a LYLO, so I am all for it.

Do you think maybe we are?

We're almost certainly in lylo. This reads like scum being too cautious, thinking that saying we're in lylo with any degree of certainty would be a scum slip.

In post 647, Firebringer wrote:
I wonder if I should use gamblers fallacy to determine your alignment right now.

Lets see last two games completed games with you, you were scum.
So this game, you cannot be scum, right?

And this is scum posting without adding any real content.

Firebringer · Post Post #649 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:38 am

You just going to frame everyone of my posts as scummy?
Because its kind of just terrible play imo.

Like 647 cant be a scum post dude.

And don't say "Any post posted by scum is a scum post"
Its could be argued to be fluff, but I doubt you could get any alignment from that post lol.