Mini 1742: game over

Frozen Angel · Post Post #800 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:47 am

In post 796, Wickan wrote:
Claim: Hider

Well that's not a normal role is it?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #801 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:47 am

In post 796, Wickan wrote:
Claim: Hider

GROSS

Is a Hider a Normal role?

p-edit: Frozen beat me to it

Frozen Angel · Post Post #802 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:48 am

I got my revenge!

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #803 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:51 am

UNVOTE:

regardless this is easy as shit to confirm so we discuss rather confirming is worth it.

I don't think so, I'm not brave enough to test another read right now. Anyone smarter than me have a plan for this situation?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #804 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:52 am

In post 797, Titus wrote:
In post 793, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 791, Frozen Angel wrote:RC tunnel on titus actually give me a good feeling. I saw RC as scum likes to branch and bonde to find a suitable place to vote

Disagree on this, I've seen him latch on to one person unmovingly as scum as well (hell that one person
was Titus
last time)

Bonus, my read on RC scum was right.

Why do you think I'm not voting you?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #805 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:52 am

New/variant roles may be included in limited number (no more than 1 in a Mini, 2 in a Large), and should be based on the usual role mechanics: Killing, Protecting, Investigating, Blocking, Voting, Enabling and Communication.
Any new roles without a wiki page must flip with their Role PM (redactions permitted). A Rolecop investigation of the same role should be similar, without alignment.

this is the only way for existence of this role in game.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #806 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:54 am

yeah its confirmable.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #807 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:55 am

I know it is, but should we? If we decide he hides behind a townie that's two townies dead tonight.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #808 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:57 am

the main townie can't be protected?

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #809 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:59 am

Can't be sure of any of the other roles in the game

Wickan · Post Post #810 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:01 am

In post 800, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 796, Wickan wrote:
Claim: Hider

Well that's not a normal role is it?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

I honestly have no idea if it's normal. I actually assumed it was, but I haven't read the normal rules in detail.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #811 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:02 am

what is the use of his role anyway :/ even if his claim is true?

I mean he can just hide behind someone else! whats the use of it after the claim?

Titus · Post Post #812 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:02 am

In post 807, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I know it is, but should we? If we decide he hides behind a townie that's two townies dead tonight.

Hiders die if hiding behind scum as well.

Still, it's the best play IMO.

Titus · Post Post #813 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:03 am

Wickan dies if hiding behind town only if the townie is shot.

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #814 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:05 am

I mean the only way to confirm him is for us to decide his target, ostensibly dooming a townie should we be wrong.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #815 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:06 am

Commuter is normal but Hider is not ... :/ its a possible role to be added (^post 805) buts its not normal

pedit : so whats the use of this role for us now? I mean if mafia know he has that role they simply attack others.

the only use of his is this : he says he is targeting someone and he died in night , then we can be sure he is mafia.

in this way we're risking two town lifes

pedit : Johnny is saying it ^^^

Frozen Angel · Post Post #816 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:06 am

the last he in third line is the targetet person!

JohnnyFarrar · Post Post #817 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:09 am

So I'm thinking we have him hide behind the biggest question marks, people like ASP and Al, maybe Bells, and then we decide another lynch?

Wickan · Post Post #818 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:11 am

Yeah, there's no possible way for me to confirm this.

It's a very useful role though; if you believe me, I can conftown people. Of course, if I die, you have to guess what I did.

pedit: No, the town can't know who I hide behind, or else it's useless (scum will just target that person)

Wickan · Post Post #819 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:13 am

To clarify any possible confusion about how hider works:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hider

Titus · Post Post #820 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:13 am

A pool is a good idea though. We should have the scummy pool with choices. This way in order to stop Wickan scum have to shoot scummy townies.

Titus · Post Post #821 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:14 am

ASP, Bells, Taly, Frozen, Ice

That's a good pool to lynch and a good pool for Wickan to hide in.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #822 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:14 am

yeah wickan i already digged that page.

I think we MUST clarify your target or you won't be confirmed ever.

we might hope there is a doc helping the one your behind so np.

Wickan · Post Post #823 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:15 am

The largest problem with the pool is that it also increases the chance that we kill 2 townies

Frozen Angel · Post Post #824 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:17 am

no one answered this : a protective can save the main target?