Mini 1742: game over

[Titus]

Ok great.

VOTE: ASP

[JohnnyFarrar]

Pref: Talah
Wont lynch: rc, titus, wickan

>not on the list

[Frozen Angel]

that's titus great thing ... not based on the lists

[Albert B. Rampage]

>not on the list

You don't do anything.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ASP is a lazy vote.

[talah]

So I think we're just waiting on Simple Plan and Ice now?

RC and ABR did state their prefs so I'll update the list after I get back from work if no one beats me to it.

@Frozen not sure what you're talking about missing you out.

[mykonian]

votecount

Talah (4): RadiantCowbells, talah, Frozen Angel, Albert B. Rampage
A Simple Plan (2): JohnnyFarrar, Titus
RadiantCowbells (1): Wickan
Titus (1): ICEninja

not voting (2): Taly, A Simple Plan

Deadline is on saturday the 19th.

[JohnnyFarrar]

ASP is a lazy vote.

I'm a lazy guy. Why's Talah a better vote?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's a better compromise lynch than ASP.

[Titus]

No it's not. The vote patterns make it clear.

Wickan is town. This wagon has a very similar composition to Wickan.

[Albert B. Rampage]

A) I doubt two scum voted two town players twice

B) Taly who I think is scum is not voting Talah

[ICEninja]

Jesus wtf is this game. Every day it gets harder and harder to read this and care about it at all. I've played entire games shorter than this 1 day.

I'm not voting talah (wtf is this wagon out of nowhere), Johnny, I'm still pretty damn confident Wickan is scum but I guess that lynch isn't happening today.

Unvote, Vote A Simple Plan

. Not gonna see talah lynched today, Titus seems to not be happening. If Johnny convinces me to move my vote I will but

just fucking lynch someone

this is so dumb.

[Titus]

Woot! A bus vote!

[Titus]

Now your list ice.

[Wickan]

Hey ICE. Remember when you thought I was scummy for considering how outsiders might view my actions?

I already mentioned I'm fine with being in the pool if ASP is lynched and - LO - look who I'm voting. I guess you can see that as scum-me potentially wanting to get in the pool so my old mate Wickan can claim town on me but frankly I don't actually like the other options being offered.

What do you think of this?

[Taly]

Back from school; I did some research on my game with talah, a player self-voted as town and it almost fucked us all over: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=60902 - we were both town.

ISOed her in that game and found this:

Don't self-vote as town ever, no matter how tempting it might be.

>For anyone who wants to say I fabricated this; ISO her yourself and read the first part of post 1833. page 74. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1825

This is stretchy, but meta and instinct tell me that talah's self-vote wasn't coming from a town mindset - and tbh, I never read self-votes as town in the first place.

So it's well after bedtime, so night.

But I'm really intrigued that either of you see my self-vote given my will-vote won't vote as a "fuck you have at it lol". So anyway if you want to grab that wagon go for it.

Incidentally Taly don't add shit to the survey. Current problem is we have too much diversity. I want won't vote and one single vote. TIA.

Aside from that^^ and meta contradictions, the fact that talah then says that it's 'intriguing' that we recognized and then prods us to a wagon doesn't sit well with me.

And if her self-vote wasn't meant for anything much at all compared to the wagon she jumped off of for no reason; then why didn't she bring it back the post after or explain it? It looks like an agenda was there.

Trusting some people on the wagon more, and the only major posting talah has done in this game was in the first few pages, she hasn't been pushed much at all and I feel like she's also gone under the radar. The intervals she posts about doesn't make since with the content at hand.

(Basically her posting 2-3 days apart between her engagements - ever since December 4th, which was not even a week until after the game began. Which would make sense from scum not wanting to do much when the chat was cut off 3 days in.)

VOTE: talah

This is putting talah to L-1 including her own vote. I doubt she'll keep it on at this point, but I'd like any sort of intent to hammer at this point before a lynch occurs if another vote is put on if talah unvotes.

I want to see this flip, I'm becoming increasingly sure of talah being scum.

Won't lynch:

Wickan [5] {Titus, talah, Johnny, Taly,Frozen}
Jonnhy [4] {Titus, talah, Taly,Frozen}
ABR [1] {Titus}
talah [1] {Titus}
Titus [3] {talah, Johnny, Taly}
Taly [2] {talah, Johnny}
RC [1] {Frozen}

Preference for lynch - nominate ONE only:

talah [1] {Frozen}
Ice [1] {Titus}
ASP [3] {talah, Johnny, Taly}

you mean this list ^ ?

Don't think the list is entirely necessary at this point, I'm getting an "ewww" vibe that talah only put Ice and SP as options for a preferred lynch.

Namely, my vote signifies that I don't want an SP lynch as opposed to a talah here.

Jesus wtf is this game. Every day it gets harder and harder to read this and care about it at all. I've played entire games shorter than this 1 day.

I'm not voting talah (wtf is this wagon out of nowhere), Johnny, I'm still pretty damn confident Wickan is scum but I guess that lynch isn't happening today.

Unvote, Vote A Simple Plan

. Not gonna see talah lynched today, Titus seems to not be happening. If Johnny convinces me to move my vote I will but

just fucking lynch someone

this is so dumb.

Yeah.... Wickan should either hide behind you or SP tonight.... (Assuming that the claim is true, which feels dismissive to not make a plan revolving around it yet.)

You go on and on about "just fucking lynching someone," but then you don't see talah being lynched, say you don't want your vote there, and then say that the wagon came out of nowhere... And you say that Johnny should convince you to move YOUR vote.

This is deteriorating my townread on you. Fast.

[Albert B. Rampage]

40 pages in...still no lynch...I see nothing worth sheeping on the ABR vs. Taly 1v1. Johnny is probably the only player I trust enough to sheep and he's against lynching my main scum read, so I don't even know what to do right now.

Scum somehow managed to get us talking in circles like crazy, this is insane. I somehow feel like there HAS to be scum in one of the active players because I feel like town is rarely this fragmented. ASP seems like a good bet as scum if town really is this fragmented/being distracted heavily by scum.

I still want

ANYONE other than Titus

to be the one to decide on the hider pool.

Jesus wtf is this game. Every day it gets harder and harder to read this and care about it at all. I've played entire games shorter than this 1 day.

I'm not voting talah (wtf is this wagon out of nowhere), Johnny, I'm still pretty damn confident Wickan is scum but I guess that lynch isn't happening today.

Unvote, Vote A Simple Plan

. Not gonna see talah lynched today, Titus seems to not be happening. If Johnny convinces me to move my vote I will but

just fucking lynch someone

this is so dumb.

These two posts give me really bad feelings.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Back from school; I did some research on my game with talah, a player self-voted as town and it almost fucked us all over: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=60902 - we were both town.

ISOed her in that game and found this:

Don't self-vote as town ever, no matter how tempting it might be.

>For anyone who wants to say I fabricated this; ISO her yourself and read the first part of post 1833. page 74. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1825

This is stretchy, but meta and instinct tell me that talah's self-vote wasn't coming from a town mindset - and tbh, I never read self-votes as town in the first place.

So it's well after bedtime, so night.

But I'm really intrigued that either of you see my self-vote given my will-vote won't vote as a "fuck you have at it lol". So anyway if you want to grab that wagon go for it.

Incidentally Taly don't add shit to the survey. Current problem is we have too much diversity. I want won't vote and one single vote. TIA.

Aside from that^^ and meta contradictions, the fact that talah then says that it's 'intriguing' that we recognized and then prods us to a wagon doesn't sit well with me.

And if her self-vote wasn't meant for anything much at all compared to the wagon she jumped off of for no reason; then why didn't she bring it back the post after or explain it? It looks like an agenda was there.

Trusting some people on the wagon more, and the only major posting talah has done in this game was in the first few pages, she hasn't been pushed much at all and I feel like she's also gone under the radar. The intervals she posts about doesn't make since with the content at hand.

(Basically her posting 2-3 days apart between her engagements - ever since December 4th, which was not even a week until after the game began. Which would make sense from scum not wanting to do much when the chat was cut off 3 days in.)

VOTE: talah

This is putting talah to L-1 including her own vote. I doubt she'll keep it on at this point, but I'd like any sort of intent to hammer at this point before a lynch occurs if another vote is put on if talah unvotes.

I want to see this flip, I'm becoming increasingly sure of talah being scum.

Won't lynch:

Wickan [5] {Titus, talah, Johnny, Taly,Frozen}
Jonnhy [4] {Titus, talah, Taly,Frozen}
ABR [1] {Titus}
talah [1] {Titus}
Titus [3] {talah, Johnny, Taly}
Taly [2] {talah, Johnny}
RC [1] {Frozen}

Preference for lynch - nominate ONE only:

talah [1] {Frozen}
Ice [1] {Titus}
ASP [3] {talah, Johnny, Taly}

you mean this list ^ ?

Don't think the list is entirely necessary at this point, I'm getting an "ewww" vibe that talah only put Ice and SP as options for a preferred lynch.

Namely, my vote signifies that I don't want an SP lynch as opposed to a talah here.

Jesus wtf is this game. Every day it gets harder and harder to read this and care about it at all. I've played entire games shorter than this 1 day.

I'm not voting talah (wtf is this wagon out of nowhere), Johnny, I'm still pretty damn confident Wickan is scum but I guess that lynch isn't happening today.

Unvote, Vote A Simple Plan

. Not gonna see talah lynched today, Titus seems to not be happening. If Johnny convinces me to move my vote I will but

just fucking lynch someone

this is so dumb.

Yeah.... Wickan should either hide behind you or SP tonight.... (Assuming that the claim is true, which feels dismissive to not make a plan revolving around it yet.)

You go on and on about "just fucking lynching someone," but then you don't see talah being lynched, say you don't want your vote there, and then say that the wagon came out of nowhere... And you say that Johnny should convince you to move YOUR vote.

This is deteriorating my townread on you. Fast.

This is a brilliant post.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Everyone should read it. Twice.

[Wickan]

I've done so. And it made me do this:

I am expressing willingness to hammer talah

I'm not sure what protocol is here when talah has a self-vote though.

[Wickan]

Addendum to above: I will not do so until ICE answers my question

[Albert B. Rampage]

This game is easier than I thought lol

[Titus]

Wickan don't you dare hammer that.

[A Simple Plan]

Wickan [7] {Titus, talah, Johnny, Taly, Frozen, ABR, ASP}
Johnny [7] {Titus, talah, Taly, Frozen, Wickan, ICE, ASP}
ABR [3] {Titus, Wickan, ASP}
talah [2] {Titus, ICE}
Titus [5] {talah, Johnny, Taly, Wickan, ABR}
Taly [3] {talah, Johnny, Wickan}
RC [2] {Frozen, ABR}

Preference for lynch - nominate ONE only:

talah [1] {Frozen, ABR, RC}
Ice [1] {Titus}
ASP [3] {talah, Johnny, Taly}
RC [1] {Wickan}
Taly [1] {ASP}

I think that's everyone?

[A Simple Plan]

Wickan [7] {Titus, talah, Johnny, Taly, Frozen, ABR, ASP}
Johnny [7] {Titus, talah, Taly, Frozen, Wickan, ICE, ASP}
ABR [3] {Titus, Wickan, ASP}
talah [2] {Titus, ICE}
Titus [5] {talah, Johnny, Taly, Wickan, ABR}
Taly [3] {talah, Johnny, Wickan}
RC [2] {Frozen, ABR}

Preference for lynch - nominate ONE only:

talah [1] {Frozen, ABR, RC}
Ice [1] {Titus, ASP}
ASP [3] {talah, Johnny, Taly}
RC [1] {Wickan}

I think that's everyone?

Actually, I changed my mind after reading 1065. Taly is probably town...