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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:38 am

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In post 674, pignash wrote:
In post 665, TheManWhoSoldTheWorld wrote:Pig, why are you voting Kop and why is it suddenly okay to put them at L-1?


I was on the wagon yesterday and wanted to see the flip. He seemed me immediately onto Kim scummily day 1 and he's role fishing today.


But why did you go from advising people to unvote, to putting Kop at L-1 so suddenly?
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:42 am

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@Kop:
Oh wow for some reason I misread 4 into 2. Sorry about that.
I've already said what it's about and if I'm actually accurate with my thoughts I'm pretty sure someone else will see it too in case I die. I don't want to distract from your wagon. I'm not necessarily in a hurry, but I don't want to have another no-lynch.
At the start of today you said you understood why the wagon on you had to happen. Where did that attitude go?
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:45 am

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@TheMan: did you maybe miss my question? I'd like to know what your current thoughts on Kop are.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:45 am

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Because it was right on the deadline, I didn't want a no lynch. We don't have that rush right now.
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:49 am

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In post 675, TheManWhoSoldTheWorld wrote:But why did you go from advising people to unvote, to putting Kop at L-1 so suddenly?


Because I miscounted and thought he was L-1 already. The hammer there would have been bad and not netted town much information.

Now that we know where we're at a quickhammer would be scummy, we can get kops last reads or leave the wagon.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:51 am

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Wanderer, I'm lost in this game, I need to reread to get my barrings back but currently don't have time. So as of now my eyes glaze over whenever I look at this thread. When it comes to Kop the best I can say is I don't think lynching them would be a bad idea. They're flailing and just threatened which is bad on paper but in practice so far I've seen be just as likely from town. Also in keeping with yesterday I'm torn on what to think of the wagon, some people look opportunistic but I'm starting to see the argument that it's suspicious they've survived this long at all.

@Kop can you give a read list?
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:30 am

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BBMolla - I've already stated my thoughts on him, I am scum reading it, whether it be role fishing or not, there was simply no reason to come out with that soft claim. No need. It brought unnecessary attention onto himself. I was willing to reach a compromise to allow him to prove his claim, but with The Man bringing up what he did about Skybird then it put more doubts onto what I think of him.

Wanderer - I wasn't paying that much attention to what she says, but then with the day two antics on how she handled herself, she started to worry me, she accused me of fence sitting, but then she did it herself withholding herself and not willing to commit fully to whatever reservations she had.

Pignash - He was on my wagon day one, fair point, it was a bad vote, but I'd already stated I was happy my vote to be there and had no other thoughts to put towards it. Now a lot has gone on since the start of day two, he hasn't been able to comment on any of it, but join my wagon again when it's making steam.

Davesaz - Same as Pignash, he hasn't contributed to anything since start of day two, other than go after me.


If I had a lynching order. It would be -

1) Wanderer
2) Davesaz
3) Pignash

I've already put my two townish reads out there. The rest are null.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:31 am

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In post 681, Kop wrote:BBMolla - I've already stated my thoughts on him, I am scum reading it, whether it be role fishing or not, there was simply no reason to come out with that soft claim. No need. It brought unnecessary attention onto himself. I was willing to reach a compromise to allow him to prove his claim, but with The Man bringing up what he did about Skybird then it put more doubts onto what I think of him.

Wanderer - I wasn't paying that much attention to what she says, but then with the day two antics on how she handled herself, she started to worry me, she accused me of fence sitting, but then she did it herself withholding herself and not willing to commit fully to whatever reservations she had.

Pignash - He was on my wagon day one, fair point, it was a bad vote, but I'd already stated I was happy my vote to be there and had no other thoughts to put towards it. Now a lot has gone on since the start of day two, he hasn't been able to comment on any of it, but join my wagon again when it's making steam.

Davesaz - Same as Pignash, he hasn't contributed to anything since start of day two, other than go after me.


If I had a lynching order. It would be -

1) Wanderer
2) Davesaz
3) Pignash

I've already put my two townish reads out there. The rest are null.



Taking out BBMolla and Skybird out of the list, as the both of them can prove over night, going into day three, and if neither can provide any result to what they are, then that top 3 list will change.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:44 am

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In post 681, Kop wrote:
Davesaz - Same as Pignash, he hasn't contributed to anything since start of day two, other than go after me.

This is grade A bullshit. I was actually ready to move off of you, until you started going after BBMolla and then bringing up Skybird. As I said before, if someone softs in this setup, the only town move is to ignore it. I have been actively hunting scum, by
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participating in the "which one is lying" debate and watching out for who does try to push that. You aren't the only one I have my eyes on, but we have limited time.

Even if you're town, which I seriously doubt, I strongly believe your flip is the most revealing one we can get today.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:57 am

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In post 683, davesaz wrote:
In post 681, Kop wrote:
Davesaz - Same as Pignash, he hasn't contributed to anything since start of day two, other than go after me.

This is grade A bullshit. I was actually ready to move off of you, until you started going after BBMolla and then bringing up Skybird. As I said before, if someone softs in this setup, the only town move is to ignore it. I have been actively hunting scum, by
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Even if you're town, which I seriously doubt, I strongly believe your flip is the most revealing one we can get today.


We've got 4 days. And I've already stated that I am willing to compromise.

What are your reads so far?
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:04 am

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My reads were in .
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:05 am

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In post 655, Frozen Angel wrote:That BBmola move was scummy for another matter : this can be a scum trying to hunt pr's

but we can have more than 1 investigative roles here. and I can count that as a bulletproof claim. or even a doctor trying to wifom .

there are lots of possibilities about that claim. I really don't see a town perspective for pushing that spot which can lead to a mass claim.


We are playing an open setup. Do you understand what that means?
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:08 am

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In post 671, Wanderer-nl wrote:
I'm actually having more issues with dave's vote then with pignash's but I don't think there's enough time left in this day to talk about it so I'm saving that.

Why do you have a problem with my vote? I think you failed to notice that my vote was already on Kop, days ago. I revoted for emphasis.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:45 am

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In post 686, Skybird wrote:
In post 655, Frozen Angel wrote:That BBmola move was scummy for another matter : this can be a scum trying to hunt pr's

but we can have more than 1 investigative roles here. and I can count that as a bulletproof claim. or even a doctor trying to wifom .

there are lots of possibilities about that claim. I really don't see a town perspective for pushing that spot which can lead to a mass claim.


We are playing an open setup. Do you understand what that means?


lol I was thinking its a normal game! :D ty for mentioning this.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:57 am

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My strongest reads.

I don't want to mention what I found about possible town PR's that will be helping scum so I won't share my town and null reads only scum :

Kop : seems actively lurking in day 1. then started distancing and role fishing in day 2.

pignash : really wierd sense of buddying kop.

null scum leans :

ceative : no one noticed he is vanished? and he had a vote on dictator day 1 ?

Sinsun1 : ?!!! 8 posts only
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:38 pm

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Jeanne pls extend time for this game.
These two slots that you are replacing have been empty for nearly two weeks.

Extend deadline by at least 48 hours when they sub in pls.

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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:40 pm

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So what, Kop now you don't want to lynch BBMolla?
He isn't even in your lynch order?
What made you change your opinion on that?

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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:41 pm

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In post 663, pignash wrote:I thought he had 4 before and we've had more votes between then and now. Nothing wrong with putting him there if it's intentional. In fact:

VOTE: Kop L-1

Can you participate at all in day?
I have yet to get strong opinions of you.

What are your thoughts on everyone right now?

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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:22 pm

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In post 662, Jeanne11 wrote:
Looking for replacements for Creative and Sinsun1


How are you doing this without posting anything in the replacement thread ?
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:30 pm

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FRB been a bit busy with work and not taking usual breaks so I'm mostly on in the evenings. Trying to up my participation levels. Still feel good about my vote.

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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:04 pm

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In post 682, Kop wrote:
In post 681, Kop wrote:BBMolla - I've already stated my thoughts on him, I am scum reading it, whether it be role fishing or not, there was simply no reason to come out with that soft claim. No need. It brought unnecessary attention onto himself. I was willing to reach a compromise to allow him to prove his claim, but with The Man bringing up what he did about Skybird then it put more doubts onto what I think of him.

Wanderer - I wasn't paying that much attention to what she says, but then with the day two antics on how she handled herself, she started to worry me, she accused me of fence sitting, but then she did it herself withholding herself and not willing to commit fully to whatever reservations she had.

Pignash - He was on my wagon day one, fair point, it was a bad vote, but I'd already stated I was happy my vote to be there and had no other thoughts to put towards it. Now a lot has gone on since the start of day two, he hasn't been able to comment on any of it, but join my wagon again when it's making steam.

Davesaz - Same as Pignash, he hasn't contributed to anything since start of day two, other than go after me.


If I had a lynching order. It would be -

1) Wanderer
2) Davesaz
3) Pignash

I've already put my two townish reads out there. The rest are null.



Taking out BBMolla and Skybird out of the list, as the both of them can prove over night, going into day three, and if neither can provide any result to what they are, then that top 3 list will change.


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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:06 pm

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In post 694, pignash wrote:FRB been a bit busy with work and not taking usual breaks so I'm mostly on in the evenings. Trying to up my participation levels. Still feel good about my vote.

Don't like FA, do like TheMan.


thx! I don't like you too as well! :)

+ : seriously right after me stating I'm scum reading you ?
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:56 pm

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In post 687, davesaz wrote:
In post 671, Wanderer-nl wrote:
I'm actually having more issues with dave's vote then with pignash's but I don't think there's enough time left in this day to talk about it so I'm saving that.

Why do you have a problem with my vote? I think you failed to notice that my vote was already on Kop, days ago. I revoted for emphasis.


This:
In post 649, davesaz wrote:Maybe we should just go ahead and lynch Kop.

How strong is your scumread on Kop?
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:56 pm

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dave is town as fuck by the by
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:59 am

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In post 693, davesaz wrote:
In post 662, Jeanne11 wrote:
Looking for replacements for Creative and Sinsun1


How are you doing this without posting anything in the replacement thread ?


PM?

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