UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[DiamondSentinel]

Can anyone tell me what this is?

Python eating an elephant, obviously...

Or a sheep. It might be a sheep.

[Shiro]

Can anyone tell me what this is?

It is obviously a fedora

Ftr I didn't even notice erra claim

What can I say. Authorities hate me.

[Learned Hand]

Shiro, vote Cerb with me. It is your duty.

VOTE: Cerb

Drixx approves this vote.

~Titus

[Jeanne11]

Why the sudden switch, Titus?

[Learned Hand]

Why the sudden switch, Titus?

Was getting clearance from Drixx since he knows Cerb better. I don't like not voting.

You should vote someone.

~Titus

[3dicerolling]

Town - Cereberus, Learned Hands

Next please.

[Jeanne11]

Okay

VOTE: 3dice

I see him as scummy fmpov.

[Cerberus v666]

I don't even know I presumed not

Don't flavor claim. Definitely ask.

The flavor claim thought was to determine legitimacy if amnesiac claim, and potential value of a protective helping him, but, well...do we even care about getting him his powers? He's a claimed miller, barring some fantastic series of events we almost have to lynch him before lylo, and if he's scum we obviously don't want to give him what he wants.

Pedit: 3dicerolling needs to point to something about me other than agreeing with him on the bystander thing, otherwise there is little reason to consider me town, unless you're drixx, to whom I should have obvtowned by now, but I'll assume I have and he's being cautious cause he knows I could fake it. :p

Drixx is afk. You must deal with me.

Until we establish roles are not linked to flavor, no flavor claims.

Second, we don't have to lynch miller claims before lylo. If we did, your vote would be on one of the two millers to establish a read on them.

Third, if you hate town reads on you, why are you bitching about the fact that Drixx hasn't said anything.

Ftr, we're discussing Shiro atm. We'll get to you.

~Titus

My role is inextricably linked with my flavor. Like, 110%. I actually missed the first miller claim completely. Also, Titus, why do you insist on expecting me to act the way you would act, when you know for a fact that I don't? Why would I vote for one of the two miller claims, when i don't even vote most of the time? What's the value in pointing out a line of play that I could take, when you know it's not one I would take?

[Elbirn]

Can anyone tell me what this is?

It is obviously a fedora

Ftr I didn't even notice erra claim

What can I say. Authorities hate me.

Botched miller fakeclaim, thinks picture is a hat

10/10 will lynch with fire
VOTE: Shiro

[Jeanne11]

Town: Cerberus, Titus, Shiro
Lean scum: 3dice

[Elbirn]

I am fine with this but I can see why you would not be.

~Titus

Do you think there'd be two miller's in a game?

[3dicerolling]

Town - Cereberus, Learned Hands

Next please.

Okay

VOTE: 3dice

I see him as scummy fmpov.

Town: Cerberus, Titus, Shiro
Lean scum: 3dice

VOTE: Jeanne

[Cerberus v666]

So, eh, just curious, what does everyone think would be the single most overpowered single target non game breaking non killing thing you could target someone with that benefits town? Let's call this a thought experiment. Skies the limit, except for the limits I made. Make stuff up.

pedit: Elbirn, maybe. I'm leaning towards one of the two of them being scum though, and that shiro just missed the first miller claim the same way I did, since it was just quote and a single word response in a post with other content. Unfortunately, in a situation like this we line ourselves up for two mislynches pretty easily, given that I'm sure the game has it's fair share of absurdity going on, which may very well include two millers.

peditx2: dun dun dun the omgus!

[Jeanne11]

Town - Cereberus, Learned Hands

Next please.

Okay

VOTE: 3dice

I see him as scummy fmpov.

Town: Cerberus, Titus, Shiro
Lean scum: 3dice

VOTE: Jeanne

That looks like an omgus.

[Elbirn]

good lord i hope i don't get nightkilled
i was looking forward to playing this game

Why do you think you'd be night killed if you claimed Miller..?

Did anyone else think they were a neutral survivor when they first read their role pm?

Also, VOTE: Mass flop

I actually give points to 3 dice for this because I had the same confusion/thought process when reading my role pm. Like yeah its in the sample pm, but if you're scum reading the sample pm for goodboypoints, you're never going to have confusion as to whether the sample role pm isn't actually the sample town pm.

Do ya know what I mean Mr krabs?

[Shiro]

Botched miller fakeclaim, thinks picture is a hat

Yea well it not fake buddy. The fedora was a joke.



Bro

[Cerberus v666]

good lord i hope i don't get nightkilled
i was looking forward to playing this game

Why do you think you'd be night killed if you claimed Miller..?

Did anyone else think they were a neutral survivor when they first read their role pm?

Also, VOTE: Mass flop

I actually give points to 3 dice for this because I had the same confusion/thought process when reading my role pm. Like yeah its in the sample pm, but if you're scum reading the sample pm for goodboypoints, you're never going to have confusion as to whether the sample role pm isn't actually the sample town pm.

Do ya know what I mean Mr krabs?

The bolded is a good point.

[Learned Hand]

@cerb, are you seriously going with the you should tolerate me being suboptimal defense? Yeah, that's not cool. Now, you're walking back your suggestion to lynch the millers. You need votes.

@elbrin, I think it's a strong possibility. 100% certainty, no. I think they both are likely millers, but that says nothing of their alignment. Scum would be dumb to cc miller, unless they were one given the heat millers get.

@3dice, huh?

@jeanne, why hesitant on calling it what it is? Both town and scum OMGUS.

[Jeanne11]

@cerb, are you seriously going with the you should tolerate me being suboptimal defense? Yeah, that's not cool. Now, you're walking back your suggestion to lynch the millers. You need votes.

@elbrin, I think it's a strong possibility. 100% certainty, no. I think they both are likely millers, but that says nothing of their alignment. Scum would be dumb to cc miller, unless they were one given the heat millers get.

@3dice, huh?

@jeanne, why hesitant on calling it what it is?

Both town and scum OMGUS.

Funny, because you scream 'scum' each time I do this. :p

[Cerberus v666]

@cerb, are you seriously going with the you should tolerate me being suboptimal defense? Yeah, that's not cool. Now, you're walking back your suggestion to lynch the millers. You need votes.

@elbrin, I think it's a strong possibility. 100% certainty, no. I think they both are likely millers, but that says nothing of their alignment. Scum would be dumb to cc miller, unless they were one given the heat millers get.

@3dice, huh?

@jeanne, why hesitant on calling it what it is? Both town and scum OMGUS.

I don't think you should tolerate me being suboptimal, but I think you should also realize that I feel just me putting a vote on them does way less for me than interacting with them and others does. The way I read you pointing out the flaw in my choices, the ones which you should expect, and thus should have no reason to point out, is an attempt to make sure those who don't know me and haven't played with me are aware of this "nonsensical" thing that I'm doing, this apparent contradiction between words and actions, so if you need to you have just that tiny bit of extra support for getting me lynched.

The fact that there are *two* miller claims changes the situation and puts us in a spot where, if we lynch both millers...and they actually are town...we just lined up two mislynches, and that inspires caution.

When you say "you need votes" are you saying people need to vote fo rme to put pressure on me, or are you saying that I need to vote in order to get the millers lynched?

[Learned Hand]

@cerb, that's awfully defensive. Why not just have your words and actions align? Are you fearing me lynching you already? You need pressure is what I meant, but you should definitely put your money where your mouth is.

@elbrin, Drixx and I are discussing Errant now.

~Titus

[Jeanne11]

Shiro, vote Cerb with me.

It is your duty.

VOTE: Cerb

Drixx approves this vote.

~Titus

[Elbirn]

@elbrin, I think it's a strong possibility. 100% certainty, no.

I think they both are likely millers, but that says nothing of their alignment.

Scum would be dumb to cc miller, unless they were one given the heat millers get.

What in the world is a scum miller?

[Learned Hand]

@elbrin, I think it's a strong possibility. 100% certainty, no.

I think they both are likely millers, but that says nothing of their alignment.

Scum would be dumb to cc miller, unless they were one given the heat millers get.

What in the world is a scum miller?

What Three Pronged Trouser God gave me in his game. I was universal scum miller Donald Trump. I thought I was Universal Godfather, probably for that reason. Totally borked that game.

A scum miller still shows up as guilty to alignment cops.

I think Errant could have been fearing a vig kill because role madness is likely but meh. Drixx has a differing view.

~Titus

[Cerberus v666]

@cerb, that's awfully defensive. Why not just have your words and actions align? Are you fearing me lynching you already? You need pressure is what I meant, but you should definitely put your money where your mouth is.

@elbrin, Drixx and I are discussing Errant now.

~Titus

I'm not sure where you see defensiveness in me explaining my position, but okay. I'm not afraid of anyone getting me lynched because it's unlikely to happen. I'd place my unlynchability, due to role alone, below SU and suikoden, but above all my other games.

My words and actions won't align because they don't, when it comes to actually laying down votes. I suspect people and ask them questions to determine their alignment without bothering to vote for them constantly. It's just what I do, and you know that.