NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

[Aj The Epic]

What are you thinking?

His issue with nero was really, really strange (smother [titus] with a pillow) and to push that as a reason to lynch is bad. When talking about why Elyse would try to 1v1 as an innocent child, I stated the obvious answer: She knew she would win regardless of what happened and thought titus was scum. However, he pushed on as if this wasn't the true meaning. Ended up contesting that gut was a bad reason to pull that. While sure, this is true, there's no reason to question it considering Elyse is now mod-confirmed town. Contesting it altogether ended up in a 'your read was bad, you wasted a power' sort of lecture, which could simply discourage a confirmed town from taking any action.

Didn't understand why Nero came in 'predicting a fight' when the answer appeared pretty obvious. They quarrel a lot, pretty obvious even though I play with neither of them regularly. Nothing in Nero's statements was baiting Titus to fight, both were plainly ready to argue regardless.

Lastly, when we started the day he toyed with Elyse being scum for the 1v1 titus on inevitable lynch, then stated I could be scum, or that both of us could be scum. Playing for a lot of lynches with very little town reads. His issue? We both voted him off his original issue with Nero, calling our votes opportunistic when his vote was... stretching at best, and opportunistic definitely being descriptive of it.

P-edit: dave in a bit.

[Aj The Epic]

If you're scum reading Dave, then you're married to Nero being scum, because Dave makes an excellent point here:

This shit is townie as hell, regardless of either AJ's alignment. Quitting an easy lynch to push a town wagon would make no sense from scum. If AJ is town, then he's a PR and scum supposedly just gave up the opportunity to be rid of a town PR. If AJ is scum, it's really fucking ballsy to change the wagon whilst being his scum partner, not to mention something that could easily screw him over later.

I don't see him as scum. He has so little content but every read he makes reflects what I think. Pignash/Heat/Elyse/Pistachio read as scum from start of D2. Sure he reads you as scum, we differ there. If he had a few more town reads, like hard posts stating "this is town", I'd be super comfortable with him as town. If not for the night end, this quote:

I- uh- what? RC looks like he's being silly RC here, which is all well and good, but it's still a weird conversation. If RC is scum, this basically means that Elyse isn't his partner, because this would be the weirdest way for scumbuddies to behave, by attracting attention to themselves using a silly reason to unvote over several posts.

Probably would've made him town to me.

If nero isn't scum, I have a hard time seeing Dave as scum.

[Aj The Epic]

Both are from Dave's 1691

[Fro99er]

(expired on 2015-12-30 16:30:00)

(Wed Dec 30 @ 4:30:00 PM ET)

VOTECOUNT 2.08

• (3)
  Davsto
  — Titus, Drixx, Dwlee99
  (0)
  Espeonage
  —
  (0)
  Nero Cain
  —
  (0)
  Drixx
  —
  (5)
  pignash
  — Shinobi, Shiro, Nero Cain, Frozen Angel, Firebringer
  (0)
  Firebringer
  —
  (0)
  Shinobi
  —
  (0)
  Grib
  —
  (0)
  Frozen Angel
  —
  (0)
  Shiro
  —
  (1)
  Aj The Epic
  — Grib
  (4)
  Titus
  — Davsto, Espeonage, Elyse, pistachi0n
  (0)
  Elyse
  —
  (1)
  pistachi0n
  — pignash
  (1)
  Heat
  — Aj The Epic
  (0)
  Dwlee99
  —
  

(1)

[NOT VOTING]

— Heat

With

16

alive

, it takes

9

votes

to lynch.

[Titus]

Hey, people can we please vote Dave? No more last second counterwagons. Ty.

[Dwlee99]

Why are there still titus votes?

[Aj The Epic]

Titus, do you think Nero is scum?

[Titus]

I don't know. Nero will be impossible to read until he stops taking positions just to be contrary to me.

[Shiro]

Titus from 1 to 10 how certain are you that dav is scum ?

[Titus]

Titus from 1 to 10 how certain are you that dav is scum ?

I would say an 8. 9 and 10 require cop guilties or vcas. So as sure as I can be without a mod confirmation.

[Dwlee99]

I am seriously worried that we have 4 votes on titus but only 3 on dave.

[Dwlee99]

(expired on 2015-12-30 16:30:00)

(Wed Dec 30 @ 4:30:00 PM ET)

VOTECOUNT 2.08

• (3)
  Davsto
  —
  Titus, Drixx, Dwlee99
  
  (0)
  Espeonage
  —
  (0)
  Nero Cain
  —
  (0)
  Drixx
  —
  (5)
  pignash
  — Shinobi, Shiro, Nero Cain, Frozen Angel, Firebringer
  (0)
  Firebringer
  —
  (0)
  Shinobi
  —
  (0)
  Grib
  —
  (0)
  Frozen Angel
  —
  (0)
  Shiro
  —
  (1)
  Aj The Epic
  — Grib
  (4)
  Titus
  —
  Davsto
  ,
  Espeonage
  ,
  Elyse
  ,
  pistachi0n
  
  (0)
  Elyse
  —
  (1)
  pistachi0n
  — pignash
  (1)
  Heat
  — Aj The Epic
  (0)
  Dwlee99
  —
  

(1)

[NOT VOTING]

— Heat

With

16

alive

, it takes

9

votes

to lynch.

[Dwlee99]

Like just look at that. :/

Everyone on dav is town and then the titus wagon is all sketch.

[Titus]

It's like you take the words out of my mouth sometimes. :/

[Dwlee99]

Where is everyone?

[Davsto]

Dwlee, why are you focusing on mine and Titus' wagons, while ignoring pignash's wagon, which is currently the largest?

Why say the Titus wagon is "all sketch" when there is literally a confirmed town on it?

Why are Drixx and Titus town?

That concludes question time thanks and goodnight

[Grib]

Hm.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: pistachi0n

[Davsto]

Also, Dwlee, do you actually have a reason why I'm scum?

[Grib]

Sorry, Titus, but as it stands, I'm not really sold on your Davsto case.

I think if pistachi0n flips town, I'm going to want to kill Drixx for VCA reasons. And it goes without saying that in that world, I'd be taking my cookies elsewhere.

[Titus]

I must be a terrible baker if you think donuts are cookies. who will you share donuts with?

I don't like this.

Drixx frankly is obvious town. I am gunna cry.

[Grib]

Sorry, donuts. Too many baked goods floating around.

Look at this votal from yesterDay:

Aj The Epic (9):

Titus

,

Frozen Angel

, {

Grib

,

RadiantCowbells

, [Drixx, pistachi0n],

Dwlee99

,

Elyse

},

Firebringer

Look between the {}. From my POV, that's townfirm, townfirm, blank, blank, strong town, and townfirm. If Aj is town, which I'm going with for the moment, I

highly

doubt there's going to be six town voting all in a row in that cluster.

Out of the townreads on that wagon, I feel the strongest about Dwlee, which is excellent because of his placement near all the townfirms on the wagon.

[Grib]

Man, I might be wrong on Frozen Angel.

Hum.

[Grib]

I must be a terrible baker if you think donuts are cookies. who will you share donuts with?

I don't like this.

Drixx frankly is obvious town. I am gunna cry.

If pistachi0n flips scum, I'll share with Drixx.

If town, hm. Dwlee? Elyse has basically checked out of the game, and she's probably going to die. On the bright side, that means the Investigative role(s) will live.

[Titus]

Man, I might be wrong on Frozen Angel.

Hum.

I would bet this over Drixx scum.

Dave AJ Nero is one hell of an unholy alliance.

I meet you half way.
I vote Pistachion.
You share donuts with Drixx.
I give Drixx angry cakes.

I want Drixx to get my cooking.

[Grib]

:/

Eh. I can dig that. Mildly.