UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[Jeanne11]

Well, I doubt they'd realize given that they're so dumb. Besides, since this game is what it is, so they have no way in hell they would realize the truth. Second, even if they do, my role could still give some uses from that as well. Either way, I am not afraid to die.

[Jeanne11]

Besides, it doesn't matter if I'm killed down, cos the town already doesn't want me around.

[Jeanne11]

And finally, you lynching me defeats your third point completely. Well, it's been fun and I got Vi.

[Jeanne11]

And I'll get Vi back eventually.

[Learned Hand]

Jeanne, if you're town every body matters. Stop whining. Stop spamming.

Don't roll over dead and bitch. Listen to what we need. Throw questions to get us thinking rather than supposing we're dumb.

~Titus

[Jeanne11]

I already asked you who you think is scum, and you didn't answer that.

[Learned Hand]

You need to provide reasons. Labels don't show us thought processes.

I can say Cerb is scum; that doesn't tell you why.

~Titus

[Jeanne11]

Well, itlepip and tn are scum because they want me lynched. This might be a bit biased, but in light of my role, I find this a strong reason. Even wikia says 'lynching a townie is bad, but lynching a confirmed townie is worse. To yourself, you're a confirmed townie'. As for sharky, it's looks to me like he's rolefishing or something.

[itlepip]

Holy shit that reasoning sucks. "I know I'm town, and voting confirmed town is scummy, so therefore anyone that votes me is scum". One of the very keys development for humans, and what mafia is based around, is that other people don't know what you know. One of the my pet peeves is when people say "I know I'm town and that gives me an advantage over everyone else" in lylo settings. It means nothing and doesn't actually help with analysis since everyone knows that they are town, even scum. Come on Jeanne...

[Sharky5x]

Well, itlepip and tn are scum because they want me lynched. This might be a bit biased, but in light of my role, I find this a strong reason. Even wikia says 'lynching a townie is bad, but lynching a confirmed townie is worse. To yourself, you're a confirmed townie'. As for sharky, it's looks to me like he's rolefishing or something.]

Holy shit that reasoning sucks.

[Jeanne11]

Read wikia then. It specifically says what I just told you.

[Jeanne11]

Also, you keep ignoring the fact that I said you would do the same if you had my role. Address that point too instead of skirting around it.

[Jeanne11]

And my biggest pet peeve is when people try to lynch townie even if said townie has high utility to town. And no, I am not saying this just to save myself, but I sincerely believe it. For instance, if you were trying to lynch one of my townreads, I would be saying the same thing. In this case, it just so happens that I have utility.

[itlepip]

Are you still claiming PGO here, cause that overlaps with my role a bit. Everything you have been saying assumes that we know what you know, which doesn't make any sense. Also the wiki isn't sacred, just because it says something doesn't mean its true. In this case the way you are using doesn't make any sense and is incredibly shortsighted.

[Jeanne11]

If you thought a bit, you would have realized what role I am by now, so I am assuming you know are are trying to get me lynched precisely because you do know.

[Jeanne11]

Also, you keep ignoring the fact that I said you would do the same if you had my role. Address that point too instead of skirting around it.

ANSWER THIS. YOU KEEP DODGING THIS.

[itlepip]

Also, you keep ignoring the fact that I said you would do the same if you had my role. Address that point too instead of skirting around it.

No I wouldn't. There literally isn't a role in the game that I would ever do what you have been doing this game. If people voting me somehow damaged the role, which is what you seem to be implying here, you say that instead of 'OMG STOP GUYZ' and only ever OMGUSing. The fact is that Titus right now apparently know your role, which means that if she is scum scum know your role. Now there are a few instances where that is okay. 1 if you are sure that Titus is town or your role lets you know that Titus is town, 2 if you are scum which means you know Titus is town and are using her to vouch for you.

And my biggest pet peeve is when people try to lynch townie even if said townie has high utility to town. And no, I am not saying this just to save myself, but I sincerely believe it. For instance, if you were trying to lynch one of my townreads, I would be saying the same thing. In this case, it just so happens that I have utility.

You have played this game before right? Scum only gets lynched day 1 about 30% of the time. Yes you are only saying this to save yourself, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever except as an excuse to save yourself. You are allowed to point out why we should think you are town, but you can't just say 'don't do this please'.

Look, I'm trying not to go too far with this, but please try to look at your posts from the perspective of someone that doesn't know you are town to see what I am talking about.

Pedit: I thought you thought I was scum? Like you were voting me and everything. If I figured out your role (which I think I might've) then this whole gambit thing was dumb and anti-town. Why do you want me to know who you are if you think I am scum here?

[itlepip]

I'm pretty sure Jeanne has scumslipped in this whole business. I am certainly not unvoting here, but I will reread to make sure that there isn't any town reason for her to do what she just did.

[Frozen Jeanne]

Suikoden - Scum lynched day 1
Micro 557 - Scum lynched day 1

And why you want me to say my role, even if it might be detrimental to town to say exactly what role I am?

[Jeanne11]

Suikoden - Scum lynched day 1
Micro 557 - Scum lynched day 1

And why you want me to say my role, even if it might be detrimental to town to say exactly what role I am?

[itlepip]

Never said you should say who you are, I just think you should be lynched here. I don't care what you are trying to claim here.

[RolePlay25]

@jeanne, NEVER CRUMB TO SOMEONE YOU ARE NOT HARD TOWN READING. EVER!

Second, being transparent is saying what you know when you know it.

Third, if I ever taught you wifom to the point of stopping others from communicating is good. That's my bad. For any role in existance, you've done enough. Hunt scum only for the rest of the time.

~Titus

REVIEW YOUR OWN POST

WHAT ISN'T SHARKY DOING

PAY ATTENTION TITUS. PAY SOME FUCKING ATTENTION FOR ONCE.

[Jeanne11]

And what if my role does let me know who is town and who is not. Knowing who is town doesn't automatically mean scum.

[itlepip]

So tell us who isn't town then?

[Jeanne11]

But whatever, you will not like it when I flip, I can promise you that much.

p-edit: Pay attention. All power roles are chiefly night based, not day based. You're making this extremely touchy.