UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[Jeanne11]

I am 1000th post, yay! Also, while I agree he's scummy, pushing a player to vote themselves is a can of worms that should not be opened.

[zMuffinMan]

er... going to force myself to read this in about 12 hours (i think im about 42 pages behind so ill pick up from there) and, failing that, i'll start taking applications for my vote

[Errantparabola]

Meaning why don't you know?

nothing of elbirn's has been indicative to me of scum. or town.

anyone want to talk

[Cerberus v666]

Hi, I'm always here. What do you think of EAPs unasked for claim which just served to reduce hammer time to a race to see who can send in their actions fastest? :p

[Errantparabola]

so whoever targets eap, then eap will know their alignment?
or is it whoever targets eap will know eap is town?

i don't get how reflexive works with friendly neighbor. sorry. not smart.

[Cerberus v666]

Whoever targets him will receive mod confirmation that he is town. It's not something fakeable it's easy to check, but it has a built in defense or "oh, I guess scum must have targeted me first" which he has now increased the likelihood of, thereby lowering his roles usefulness, increasing the chance that multiple town will target him and waste a bunch of actions, AND disincentivizing cops from checking him, because why waste a cop on someone when all you'll get its the same result someone else can get without wasting a cop shot.

[Jeanne11]

er... going to force myself to read this in about 12 hours (i think im about 42 pages behind so ill pick up from there) and, failing that, i'll start taking applications for my vote

but the thread has 41 pages

[Sharky5x]

No I seriously need someone to answer that question.

I know who I want to vote. It's not roleplay or jeanne, either.

[Errantparabola]

I am 1000th post, yay!

proud of u

Whoever targets him will receive mod confirmation that he is town. It's not something fakeable it's easy to check, but it has a built in defense or "oh, I guess scum must have targeted me first" which he has now increased the likelihood of, thereby lowering his roles usefulness, increasing the chance that multiple town will target him and waste a bunch of actions, AND disincentivizing cops from checking him, because why waste a cop on someone when all you'll get its the same result someone else can get without wasting a cop shot.

if you're asking me whether or not it's a gambit, then i don't think so.
but i do see why you think it's suboptimal play. and your argument makes sense.

[Errantparabola]

This is going to sound bad.

Who shall I vote?

why preface this with a disclaimer? that in itself seems more scummy than your actual question.
also, can't you just look at the people that we are voting to see everyone's respective answer to that question?

[DiamondSentinel]

This is going to sound bad.

Who shall I vote?

why preface this with a disclaimer? that in itself seems more scummy than your actual question.
also, can't you just look at the people that we are voting to see everyone's respective answer to that question?

Well, I would do it because I know that oftentimes, I get lynched for stuff because people don't bother to read why I said it, and by acknowledging the potentially scummy things that I say, it might help people realize that I'm not trying to say it that way.

[Elbirn]

Meaning why don't you know?

nothing of elbirn's has been indicative to me of scum. or town.

anyone want to talk

Your lack of an opinion on me is really poopy. You're telling me nothing I've done gives you any indication at all to my alignment?

[Elbirn]

Oh, so I'm pretty sure eap claim is a trap meant for me

Cuz I joined this game so that me and varsoon could be town buddies, and it was joked that "well one of us will have to roll cop so that they can clear the other and be Def town"

It's such an obtuse way to confirm an alignment and I don't believe it.

[RolePlay25]

This is going to sound bad.

Who shall I vote?

why preface this with a disclaimer? that in itself seems more scummy than your actual question.

I would like to inform you, agent, that I have developed a theory. I bet it shall shock you.

Klingon wants to turn a discussion of her alignment into a discussion of me. It is sad for her that I am awesome, and she is scum.

[Shiro]

No I seriously need someone to answer that question.

I know who I want to vote. It's not roleplay or jeanne, either.

If you know who you want to vote then what is stopping you ?

[Learned Hand]

Not liking EAP saying neighbor = town.

If singlball, Klingon is almost certainly town. There's a big difference between here and Suikoden and her other scumgames. Not liking the OMGUS but Kling has always been focused on herself.

To that end, while I don't see any glaring flaws with Roleplay's analysis, the fact he's equally confident both are scum is jarring me. If Klingon is town and they are both equally scummy...that would make Sharky town.

I will flag Drixx and let him use our vote as he wishes till I feel better.

@Roleplay, thoughts?

[dramonic]

Votecount 7: Just cuz you're miserable doesn't mean you can be mean!

Jeanne11 (4): tn5421, DiamondSentinel, itlepip, Learned Hand
sharky5x (3): Elbirn, roleplay25, Shiro
tn5421 (2): Jeanne11, Davsto
DiamondSentinel (2): ErrantParabola, 3dicerolling
zmuffinman (1): Edgar Allan Pro
3dicerolling (1): Mass Flop
Roleplay25 (1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting: Cerberus v666, sharky5x, zmuffinman

It is 9 to lynch. Theoretical Deadline is in 7 days and 7 hours, although Holiday Special Extension is possible.


I am a fair mod, but I don't strictly have to be. Go take whatever cold shower you need, but I do NOT want to see more of these calling each other retard of idiots or whatever.
I don't want to modkill anyone, but if you guys can't tone it the hell down I will.

Also and for future reference, I can't intervene when I'm afk, there's no point asking me 4 times if there hasn't been any mod posts in-between <_<

[DiamondSentinel]

Poor Dramonic.

[Sharky5x]

I'd like to advise the 2 of my townreads/leans on the Jeanne11 wagon to move elsewhere..

Namely the tn5421 wagon

[RolePlay25]

Not liking EAP saying neighbor = town.

If singlball, Klingon is almost certainly town. There's a big difference between here and Suikoden and her other scumgames. Not liking the OMGUS but Kling has always been focused on herself.

To that end, while I don't see any glaring flaws with Roleplay's analysis, the fact he's equally confident both are scum is jarring me. If Klingon is town and they are both equally scummy...that would make Sharky town.

I will flag Drixx and let him use our vote as he wishes till I feel better.

@Roleplay, thoughts?

Hunting third party scum is a scumtell not because of multiball (although hunting one team of scum in multiball is a sure scumtell). It is a scumtell because of the nature of scum - they must attempt to sincerely appear to be trying to solve the game. Sincerity can be hard to fake - the easiest way to fake it is to not to fake it. KlingonCelt is a theory junkie - we can certainly tell that from her posts. Toss a theory junkie into a Dramonic game, and I am certain they are at least speculating on the nature of the setup. It is

weird

- we know that just from what has been claimed. Are there third parties? Possibly. It's certainly more interesting to speculate about than whether or not townies are scum when you know for a fact they're not.

It's a scumslip, because she used genuine sincerity. The problem was that sincerity was from a mafia perspective.

P.S. I don't see why Klingon, Sharky, and TN can't all be scum. I mean yes, I'm not 100% correct 100% of the time, but even if this was a bog standard normal game I'd expect a 13:4 ratio, and this is anything but standard.

[RolePlay25]

I'd like to advise the 2 of my townreads/leans on the Jeanne11 wagon to move elsewhere..

Namely the tn5421 wagon

...

Not Voting: Cerberus v666,

sharky5x,

zmuffinman

Is there ulterior motive to this

Beyond simply annoying me and trying to get me to really want to lynch you on a personal level and not just because I scum read the fuck out of your active lurking

Because I've been annoyed by some of the most annoying, and you just don't have it in you to be anywhere near that annoying

Not that that's an invitation to try mind you

[DiamondSentinel]

Indeed. I hate to agree with RP, but you're active lurking, and it's far past any reasonable time to. You need to pick your sides and get to voting.

[3dicerolling]

I reviewed what Roleplay said about sharky, and I agree with most of it. I especially agree with the assessment of 952.

Recent posts by sharky do not dissuade me from his wagon.

[3dicerolling]

VOTE: Sharky

[Shiro]

I'd like to advise the 2 of my townreads/leans on the Jeanne11 wagon to move elsewhere..

Namely the tn5421 wagon

And why aren't you voting tn ?