In post 1073, Elbirn wrote:Yaknow
At first I was like "demanding a claim from someone not at l-1 with intent to hammer is really scummy"
And then I was like "lul idc". The actions are bad, but the way RP is going about this feels me with good feels and sharkys reaction is really bad
Okay, allow us to access the history archives.
At the dawn of time, it was excellent to mass claim day 1 because setups were bad, often had a cop and a doctor, and were quite breakable. So mass claim day 1 was the norm.
After some time, moderators started designing setups where scum had fakeclaims, town had poor/scummy roles, doctors were not guaranteed and roleblockers existed. So mass claiming became a bad idea
Then people developed the idea that claiming was anti-town, because it let the scum pick and choose who to shoot. So this entire song and dance was invented where you take the person to L-1, give intent to hammer, etc. etc. etc. Why? So people don't claim all over the place, giving the scum a buffet.
But soft claims throw this out the window.
Scum often have a rolecop. Scum can just kill soft claims. Scum can roleblock soft claims. Soft claims are the buffet, the lighting is just dim so there's ambiguity about the meals.
If you soft claim you might as well hard claim. The scum response to either will be very similar.
Oh, but want me to tell you something interesting? It is so very easy to soft claim. "Elibern, I have a role that's quite useful, it will give us lots of information if you leave me alive a few days". Well it's true! Scum rolecop gives lots of useful info. And in a few days, with a few flips, and a few rolecops and a few more claims scum will have much better idea of what power roles are out there.
Day one of course, you're flying blind as hell. You don't even know how people will flip. Dramonic is lazy with fake claims, he doesn't give them. They have very little idea of what claim will fly and what will make us go "oh shit, that claim is nothing like a town claim" (if not today, then day 3 or 4 after we've seen the roles flip and they've failed to die).
Pedit: What. The. Fuck.
