UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[Cerberus v666]

1. Varsoon is my waifu
2. I lied he's not trapping me
3. Reasons I can not divulge at this moment make me doing it more optimal than if anyone else were to do it
4. I don't have any reason to trust zMuffinMan at this point, he's been lurkylurky pretty hard and hasn't done anything to fill me with good feels

Point 3 is almost definitely wrong.

it's not a fruit vendor, it just does nothing

i am interested in how "first person to target" works with multiple actions though

Asked already, per mod a theoretical role as described by EAP would be first targeted based on NAR.

[zMuffinMan]

@elbirn

i didn't see varsoon's claim when i

lied about catching up

promised to catch up

[Elbirn]

Low post number =/= lurking.

Zmuffin has had a lot of content.

Who should Sharky give a desperado to?

1. I'm not certain I agree with that...he's got 15 posts, of which 10 of them were either pregame or are him saying "I'll catch up later". I don't find lurkylurky to be a scumtell, but it doesn't give me much confidence in him.

I will begrudgingly admit that his 3 or so good content posts were, well, good content. Hrm. I just need more of him in my life.

2. Sharky should give a desperado to ooo himself? Or if not possible, to TN.

3. Reasons I can not divulge at this moment make me doing it more optimal than if anyone else were to do it

Point 3 is almost definitely wrong.

it really isn't.

[Cerberus v666]

Elbirn, we shall discuss in post game.

Desperado should indeed go to tn, but who would we want him to desperado?

[Davsto]

Day vigilante that doesn't work on Bystanders?

[Elbirn]

Elbirn, we shall discuss in post game.

Desperado should indeed go to tn, but who would we want him to desperado?

.....sharky?

[Elbirn]

Wait if sharky can actually lucid dream bullshit roles does that make him town

Fuck idk

Desperado parabola I don't like her this game

[Learned Hand]

We should let Tn choose who to desperado. He cannot kill town. If he guesses town he dies. If he guesses scum, scum die. Compulsive so he cannot refuse to guess.

Who tn chooses says a lot about his alignment.

~Titus

[Cerberus v666]

Day vigilante that doesn't work on Bystanders?

Basically.

Elbirn, we shall discuss in post game.

Desperado should indeed go to tn, but who would we want him to desperado?

.....sharky?

Seems strong. Either tn dies and Sharky is confirmed town, or Sharky dies and was scum. Which means he wouldn't do it. So instead he would just dream that someone shot tn...

Yeah, never mind, doesn't work if Sharky is scum.

Pedit: still not sure it would work. No way to confirm what sharky actually dreamed.

[Elbirn]

Sharky should dream for one of the millers to be an innocent child instead

Boom

[Learned Hand]

Sharky should dream for one of the millers to be an innocent child instead

Boom

That's stupid. Millers are usually town.

Desperadoes are day events and self confirming.

[Learned Hand]

Hence why I added D1 compulsive. If there's no desperado shot, we lynch Sparky.

[Cerberus v666]

Sharky should dream for one of the millers to be an innocent child instead

Boom

Unless that miller is actually scum. Game isn't bastard, so alignment changes aren't on the table I assume.

Pedit: ah duh. Desperado is claimed in thread. That actually fixes that problem. Carry on, forgot desperado is activated in thread.

I like it. Net town benefit unless tn is ascetic.

[Learned Hand]

That still generates a one for one because TN not claiming ascetic is a scumclaim.

[Cerberus v666]

It's not even a one for one, it's a guaranteed kill. Of course there's no reason for tn to not falsely claim ascetic now. I guess in that case we choose someone else to be the desperado, and likely lynch tn. A desperado at sharky seems best btw, clearing him is really really good.

[Learned Hand]

It's not even a one for one, it's a guaranteed kill. Of course there's no reason for tn to not falsely claim ascetic now. I guess in that case we choose someone else to be the desperado, and likely lynch tn. A desperado at sharky seems best btw, clearing him is really really good.

Well now that we have told TN ascetic = lynch, he'll do the opposite of the truth if scum.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, btw LH, you still haven't told me what the difference is between now and Suikoden, with regards to klingon.

[Sharky5x]

Not sure if compulsive effects me doing it or not. I want to, though. I have the freedom to choose who I desperado-shoot. I'm probably going to go with tn, kling, errant, or mass flop. I will clarify which one I picked before I shoot.

[Learned Hand]

It's not even a one for one, it's a guaranteed kill. Of course there's no reason for tn to not falsely claim ascetic now. I guess in that case we choose someone else to be the desperado, and likely lynch tn. A desperado at sharky seems best btw, clearing him is really really good.

I still stand by that TN should pick who to desperado with Sharky being a suggestion.
If the desperado is dreamed as I describe

"I dream that I invent a desperado gun to TN." Then Sharky is likely town.

TN picking says volumes about his alignment.

[Learned Hand]

Oh, btw LH, you still haven't told me what the difference is between now and Suikoden, with regards to klingon.

It's a complete one eighty. In Suikoden she's all excuses and where votes. Here her PoV makes sense, regardless of its accuracy.

[Learned Hand]

Not sure if compulsive effects me doing it or not. I want to, though. I have the freedom to choose who I desperado-shoot. I'm probably going to go with tn, kling, errant, or mass flop. I will clarify which one I picked before I shoot.

Compulsive is a modifier. I left that out. It prevents TN from waffling or lurking out the day.

I dream that I invent a compulsive day one desperado to TN.

That should do it.

[Sharky5x]

Not sure if compulsive effects me doing it or not. I want to, though. I have the freedom to choose who I desperado-shoot. I'm probably going to go with tn, kling, errant, or mass flop. I will clarify which one I picked before I shoot.

Compulsive is a modifier. I left that out. It prevents TN from waffling or lurking out the day.

I dream that I invent a compulsive day one desperado to TN.

That should do it.

Hmm
So I give TN a desperado gun, have her shoot me, then she dies? What happens if scum is desperado?! XD

[Cerberus v666]

Sharky, you misunderstand. The thought is you should have tn become a compulsive D1 desperado, so he MUST desperado someone today.

Pedit: yes, what LH is saying. Desperado, as defined by the wiki, is a day kill targeted and posted in thread. If the target is town, the desperado dies. If the target is scum, they die.

[Cerberus v666]

Point being, his alignment doesn't matter. Only his targets alignment should.

LH. Hmm. I'll consider that. The two feel similar here, the only difference being she has the holidays to hide behind and you're not pressuring herx so she's had no reason to come up with excuses.

[Sharky5x]

Point being, his alignment doesn't matter. Only his targets alignment should.

ah okay.