UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[RolePlay25]

What happens if I shoot sharky and flips town?

Then he lied as town which... why... or well, we can have some annoyed words to say with the moderator.

What happens if I shoot sharky and flips scum?

... profit?

How would me flipping townie mean I lied? Lied about what exactly?

If the gun worked he can't kill me

resulting in a flip.

Yes, that would be why

[Sharky5x]

What happens if I shoot sharky and flips town?

Then he lied as town which... why... or well, we can have some annoyed words to say with the moderator.

What happens if I shoot sharky and flips scum?

... profit?

How would me flipping townie mean I lied? Lied about what exactly?

If the gun worked he can't kill me

resulting in a flip.

Yes, that would be why

But then that would mean that I misinterpreted "you may give a compulsive day one desperado gun", or he lied. Which I still don't think he did.

[RolePlay25]

Man, I don't see any way to misinterpret that.

I mean you can check the PM (if it exists) and see yourself, but that seems super unambiguous.

[Sharky5x]

Man, I don't see any way to misinterpret that.

I mean you can check the PM (if it exists) and see yourself, but that seems super unambiguous.

Which is why I believe the gun will work, and he should shoot me.

If it doesn't work due to "You were given a compulsive day one desperado gun", "You aren't a desperado, so you receive a regular gun", or something along those lines happens, I'll be very pissed.

[DiamondSentinel]

I did answer you, Errant. It appears that your name isn't the only thing that's errant, though. Your reading skills also appear to be fault.

[itlepip]

What happens if I shoot sharky and flips town?

Then he lied as town which... why... or well, we can have some annoyed words to say with the moderator.

What happens if I shoot sharky and flips scum?

... profit?

How would me flipping townie mean I lied? Lied about what exactly?
If the gun worked he can't kill me resulting in a flip.

Sharky flipping in general means 1 of 3 things, and I think the third is worth mentioning here. If EP shoots Sharky and Sharky flips scum, then there is a bunch of WIFOM stuff about bussing (EP should be investigated), because it means that Sharky lied about what he told the mod, but that doesn't mean that EP is town.

If EP shoots Sharky and he flips town, then there are two possibilities assuming no bastard mod. 1 is that Sharky was town and lied about what he told the mod, which is dumb on the part of sharky and I honestly doubt here.

Another thing that I am upset that no one mentioned in the possibility that EP actually might have a day vig role or can summon the ability for Sharky to be day vigged, either through a day talk/encryptor or through some ability. EP might just be lying about what the mod told him in an attempt to shoot sharky -who he knows is town- without having to worry about getting killed in the process.

In conclusion though, EP really needs to shoot sharky here. If he doesn't shoot sharky I will only be happy with an EP lynch no matter what the alignment of the person he shoots is.

[tn5421]

I don't understand why you'd want to lynch EP if he shoots scum, though.

[Errantparabola]

what I meant by my question is what is our next move?

ALSO
itlepip investigating me is useless. i'm a miller.

[Errantparabola]

I did answer you, Errant. It appears that your name isn't the only thing that's errant, though. Your reading skills also appear to be fault.

have you looked at your own ISO?
Try ctrl+f "errant"
Tell me if there's anything that I can interpret as an actual case on me.

let me save your time. there isn't

[DiamondSentinel]

I didn't say I had a case on you (other than you shitty posts, which don't deserve to be addressed). I was simply saying that I'm not a good shot to take.

[DiamondSentinel]

Well, if it's a traditional vig shot, that is.

If it's Desperado, fire away.

[Elbirn]

Well, if it's a regular gun, I'd prefer you not shoot me. But if it's indeed Desperado, then go ahead and shoot me. I think you're scummy as fuck, and deserve to die.

Hey DS stop being fucking obtuse and respond to this mystery scumread and what it's based on

[Klingoncelt]

... I can probably say it's not that something happens when I vote, it's just I cannot vote until something else happens first.

Allow me to ask again. Who should I vote? Preferably not myself.

So you have a post restriction that makes you vote someone else's choice?

[Klingoncelt]

This is a bullshit excuse to remove a bullshit made up post restriction.

Sharky definitely has a post restriction.

Edgar Allan Pro does too, fyi.

[DiamondSentinel]

Let's take a walk down ISO lane for errant.

Post 302: Votes me, not going to comment on this, but it will be needed later
Post 584: Asks if my supposed "inconsistency" is alignment indicative
Scroll through a lot of posts that say "Oh, I'll catch up" doesn't for a long time, and then comments on useless things, doesn't provide insight.
Post 942: Ooh! A readlist! Let's see. Lists me as might be scum, but still thinks I could be town. Evidently not worth viging

Enter Daydreamer

This is when his posts get really shitty. (shittier than they were originally)

He goes from a possible scum-read on me to "HOLY SHIT LET'S VIG HIM", as if there aren't better choices. Never actually responds to anything I say; just says "ok, tell me more" (i.e. begging the question).

There is NOTHING in this ISO worth any amount of credibility.

tl;dr - Scumreads with no reasoning (except for 1 single post I made earlier, in lighthearted jest), complete lack of content, and just seemingly focused on me through his entire ISO.

[RolePlay25]

This is a bullshit excuse to remove a bullshit made up post restriction.

Sharky definitely has a post restriction.

Edgar Allan Pro does too, fyi.

Are they not in your PT, giving you this inside information?

[Klingoncelt]

This is a bullshit excuse to remove a bullshit made up post restriction.

Sharky definitely has a post restriction.

Edgar Allan Pro does too, fyi.

Are they not in your PT, giving you this inside information?

I don't have a PT.

The info came with my role PM, EAP and Sharky have some sort of post restrictions. I have zero info on their roles and alignments.

[RolePlay25]

Wow isn't it super convenient this sort of information is coming out 1300 posts into this game. But more to the point, that's your scum claim.

This is going to sound bad.

Who shall I vote?

Yes, it does sound bad.

'For

whom

shall I vote?'

And it still sounds bad.

You had the information that he was post restricted and YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE HIS POST RESTRICTION?!?

[RolePlay25]

Like in all honesty, once the EP/Sharky thing is worked out and one of the two is dead.

I really wanna lynch KC. Over every single other person worth lynching.

[Klingoncelt]

Like in all honesty, once the EP/Sharky thing is worked out and one of the two is dead.

I really wanna lynch KC. Over every single other person worth lynching.

You
are
an
idiot.

[Learned Hand]

Klingon is town unless and until multiball is proven. Not voting there.

Can we move forward and Errant bold the following in thread?

I wish to use the desperado gun Sharky gave me on Sharky.

~Titus

[Klingoncelt]

There was no point in my announcing anything until something started happening.

I really like where my vote is.

[dramonic]

Votecount 8: Sure, blame the mod.

sharky5x (7): Elbirn, Shiro, 3dicerolling, DiamondSentinel, itlepip, davsto, tn5421
DiamondSentinel (2): ErrantParabola, Sharky5x
Jeanne11 (1): Learned Hand
tn5421 (1): Jeanne11
zmuffinman (1): Edgar Allan Pro
3dicerolling (1): Mass Flop
Roleplay25 (1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting: Cerberus v666, zmuffinman, roleplay25

It is 9 to lynch. Theoretical Deadline is in 6 days and 1 hours, although Holiday Special Extension is possible.

Once again, the game is not Bastard.

[Cerberus v666]

Man, you guys should really unvote sharky. It's dumb for him to be on the edge of lynch when a number of people want him to be shot right now, and if this is a desperado gun he will be confirmed town at that point, but it's quite easy for someone to be stupid and get him killed anyways.

Also, Errant, in the post where you shoot sharky(if you shoot him) please tell us your thoughts on the game, seriously. I would be shocked at this point if sharky was scum, but it's not impossible, so I expect a shot at him to result in your death.

[hiplop]

here, sorry for all those delays. I am FINALLY here and will be active. One of those awful busy one after another things of life, apologies. ALSO it is sorta awkward to catch up as hydra without your partner. So this is all me, basically.

Hey I have a role, I learned the alignment of 3dice.

He's a scumbutt

good catch. I think you're right, this reads as a trick to get a quick-clear on him or a buddy. Good play had it worked. I think if this lynch-with-PM-Lucid Dream thing,

I nominate 3dice as a candidate

Wait holy shit

Holy shit

This is your fakeclaim.

You have one of those "message the mod and they'll post in thread powers" and you came up with this.

Actual holy shit

Fate has brought us together, I think.

I believe I know who you are and it excites me. Yep. I think 3dice is almost unquestionably scum.

If the moderator doesn't go for anything confirm able like that (and I don't mean some dumb in-thread message, mod messenger is a really common role in these sorts of role madness games), then we lynch.

Agreed.

VOTE: Sharky - claim looks like a scum role.

Not sure what RP is even slightly on about, but 3dice's advocating for cop in a setup with godfathers is pretty telling.

This post is suspect to me. Whats so confusing about the messenger theory? I think its easy to understand. The resistance here is telling, perhaps an attempt to backup the claim.

I mean, if I don't prove what I am, it's easy to have me lynched on day 2. So why so insistent on lynching me today before I have the chance to use my role?

If I have learned at all how to read you (AND I think I finally have), I believe you're town this game. Please stop being so self-preserving and spammy, please. Why is this what you chose to comment on at this time? Huge, potentially game-changing info was made ITT and you continued to argue about surviving until tomorrow...why?

I don't see how yours trump that. Shiro's dream is a scum claim.

titus did I miss something ? Shiro's dream? Or is that a typo meaning sharky? I assume the latter but sometimes I miss stuff :\

Low post number =/= lurking.

Zmuffin has had a lot of content.

Who should Sharky give a desperado to?

eh? I literally can barely remember a muffin post (har har, us too, I know). Dudes awesome but like us is totally lurking here. I'm not sure why you chose to step in, but it makes me feel kinda weird titus

It seems odd to me that muffins first post after edgars claim wouldn't state "oh yeah I have the perfect ability for that!"

And then here seems to be an attempt to weirdly pin him

Something weird going on here I think. Two very strange handlings of a strong player being absent in thread by elbirn and titus.

Seems strong. Either tn dies and Sharky is confirmed town, or Sharky dies and was scum. Which means he wouldn't do it. So instead he would just dream that someone shot tn...

Yeah, never mind, doesn't work if Sharky is scum.

DING DING DING.

This desparado plan fails MISERABLY if sharky is scum. Can't be anything with killing, I don't think. We have to make sure it grants us information only if hes actually a lucid dreamer.

I recommend running EVERYTHING by dramonic though. Ask "If I dream " I invent a compulsive D1 desperado shot to tn, and my action succeeds, will you alllw it, and what will happen if he is scum? What will happen if he is town?" Ideally you'd want the time limit a day compulsive would have, what happens if he doesn't choose a targef, WHEN whatever happens happens, etc.

Really liking cerb here. I really do think this is town cerb, I stand by my old town read.

Okay great, Sharky lied. This was unexpected.

What happens when you shoot him?

We'll see who errant shoots. If its a regular shot, lynch shark IMO. Probably a scum inventor or something

Why are you suspecting I could be third party..?

If the gun is an ordinary gun then I've been deceived.

"I invent a day one compulsive desperado gun and hand it to Errantparabola"

I asked before if I could do this, and I could. I don't understand why errant sees it as a regular gun.

...lol. I actually think this could be dramonic being cheeky. Grammatically, he is just getting a gun.......................god dammit sharky

Part of me thinks this is an elaborate gambit using daytalk. This is seriously complex. Straight out of the kuribo method of "when caught, make shit up and hope people get confused and let go"