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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:09 pm

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I kinda wish I could go back in time and ask Mala why she had Nati listed as a townread (considering she basically never interacts with her or mentions her posts at all) but too late :/

Mala has a back and forth with BRO re: chainsawing GM that also makes him look pretty unlike a scumbuddy, I think.

The setup still REALLY bothers me. I wasn't expecting a third scum but rolecop/roleblocker/goon + a scum autowin condition vs. a miller + lovers seems a bit ridiculous. Can two BGs, a tracker, and a whatever Syryana was really balance against all that scumsidedness?
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:49 pm

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In post 2198, Empire wrote:What do you think of the Tammy nightkill? I find it incredibly bothersome because I think you and I both know who should have died N3.

You mean Nacho? Cause I can't think of anyone aside from maybe myself or Mara that you might be referring to and I'm not that concerned about me not dying N3. I'm really unsure about what Tammy's reads were aside from Malakittens. I could look at her townreads more I suppose. I didn't think too much about it because I thought Tammy was pretty obviously town so killing her makes sense.
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:23 pm

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In post 2139, Nachomamma8 wrote:My preferred mass claim time would probably be tomorrow, though. Something stopped the kill last night if that something isn't scum no killing, and giving it another shot to stop the kill could net us an extra mislynch while massclaiming removes that possibility.

If it's a roleblocker, we have a free lynch literally waiting for us.

If it's a BP/doctor, that means we have 3/4 confirmed town with 8 players left. That's a pretty sick position to be in.

If it's a jailor, well, we can play the odds with the knowledge we have.

If scum are no-killing then, lol.

All waiting does is give scum a chance to figure out what happened and silence their knowledge. You should know this.

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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:47 pm

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I don't think I actually count as negative utility unless we actually have a cop. My PM doesn't make me seem like a universal miller.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:32 pm

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Obviously if there's a town roleblocker they should claim because duh

does that even need to be said
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:01 am

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In post 2203, BROseidon wrote:I don't think I actually count as negative utility unless we actually have a cop. My PM doesn't make me seem like a universal miller.

Aren't millers supposed to be inherently negative utility? I know it was part of the site meta for a very long time to view miller claims as inherently scummy (although I can't really remember the rationale for why, it's been too long).

I agree with everything Nati said about massclaiming.
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:21 am

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Lets not massclaim. Or better yet, if you have a PR just claim it whenever you feel like it. I think its pretty clear that Empire, Nati, Notty, and Ceph are claiming vanilla.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:26 am

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Its funny that someone called Empire forgettable. I thought most of his posts were pretty memorable in a well-this-might-be-forced-emotion kind of way. But I'm currently thinking that I was overthinking that and that hes just town.

Cephrir might break my heart if hes scum which might be why I havent looked at him too much.
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:29 am

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Would this face lie to you?
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:48 am

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yes :|
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:50 am

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Yeah, probably.
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:51 am

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You should probably look at me! I'm pretty town and I get warm fuzzy feelings when people call me town.
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:16 am

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Spoiler: ok lets hug it out
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:04 am

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Im here

Not lynching notty yet. There are beter options still I think
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:06 am

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I also doubt a tracker exist this game!
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:49 pm

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I have a feeling you're wrong
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:50 pm

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And when my feeling turns out to be a prophecy it would warm y ducky little heart if you murdered notscience!
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:08 pm

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In post 2202, Natirasha wrote:If it's a roleblocker, we have a free lynch literally waiting for us.

If it's a BP/doctor, that means we have 3/4 confirmed town with 8 players left. That's a pretty sick position to be in.

If it's a jailor, well, we can play the odds with the knowledge we have.

If scum are no-killing then, lol.

All waiting does is give scum a chance to figure out what happened and silence their knowledge. You should know this.

3/4 confirmed town in 8 is pretty nice, but 3/4 confirmed town in 6 is way better
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:18 pm

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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:19 pm

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In post 2217, Nachomamma8 wrote:3/4 confirmed town in 8 is pretty nice, but 3/4 confirmed town in 6 is way better

The problem is that there is also the odds of 0 additional confirmed town if we don't massclaim. I'd much rather play it safe than take the risk. And I'd REALLY rather win the game today and massclaiming helps that out.
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:28 pm

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The concern that I have is that mass claim favors scum in terms of "why did nobody die last night."

If scum NK'd, they can try to manipulate that with a protective fakeclaim
If scum had their kill blocked, mass claim makes it easier to figure out why.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:29 pm

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In post 2188, AngryPidgeon wrote:Can anyone explain why Natirasha is town?

VOTE: nachoe

I'm starting to get Tales of You vibes out of ns/nacho at this point.
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:30 pm

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also god damn quotes sticking around.

I would also like AP's question answered. I also want equivalent answers about Ceph and Empire, if possible.
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:38 pm

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In post 2221, BROseidon wrote:
In post 2188, AngryPidgeon wrote:Can anyone explain why Natirasha is town?

VOTE: nachoe

I'm starting to get Tales of You vibes out of ns/nacho at this point.

Out of notscience? He was town in that. Unless you think Nacho is acting with NS like he did with his scum buddies in Tales.

I don't really get the same impression, but eh. I have a new target to direct my paranoia towards
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:19 pm

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lol im winning a 1v1 with nacho
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