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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:25 pm

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Newbie 1677


Welcome to Newbie 1677! The Mafia has infiltrated your town and killed the mayor!
It's up to you to discover the identities of the bad guys and bring peace back to your home!



Moderator:
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Player List:


1)
jachawk

2)
Lia
eventi
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3)
Maestro
hawkleader3
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4)
mykonian
[IC]
5)
Natsu

6)
PhantomCobalt
Random Canadian
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7)
Ruku

8)
tojam2

9)
Witch_Hunter
MochaMan


[SE] denotes a Semi-Experienced player.
[IC] denotes a Inexperience Challenged player. This player is here to help you learn to play the game. Their play is governed by the wiki article Being a good IC.

Spoiler: Living Players
1) jachawk
Mafia Roleblocker

2) Natsu
Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Dead Players
1) Lia
Vanilla Townie
Lynched Day 1.

2) PhantomCobalt
Town Jailkeeper
Killed Night 1.

3) mykonian
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Lynched Day 2.

4) Maestro
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Lynched Day 3.

5) Ruku
Vanilla Townie
Endgamed.

6) tojam2
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Endgamed.

7) Witch_Hunter
Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
Endgamed.

Game Links:

Day 1 | Night 1
Day 2 | Night 2
Day 3
Game Over
Last edited by Zaicon on Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:44 am, edited 11 times in total.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:27 pm

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Game Rules

All Forum Rules and Guidelines should be followed, along with the following rules.


Game Timeline

  • Day phases will last two weeks.
  • Night phases will last two days.


General Rules

  • Do not quote your role PM or any other PM/QT communication from the mod.
  • Do not contact any player in or outside of the game about the game.
  • Do not use encrypted or hard-to-see text (including "invisible" text, text below the 50% text size option, or text hidden via BBCode (not including spoilered text)).
  • Do not edit or delete posts in this thread. If you made a formatting mistake, I will fix it for you (if it doesn't change the content of the post).


Activity

  • If a player doesn't post in-game after a period of 48 hours, other players may request a prod of that player.
  • If a player doesn't post in-game after a period of 72 hours and another player hasn't made a request, I will prod that player.
  • If a player is prodded, that player has 24 hours to make an in-game post before a replacement will be found.
  • If a player receives multiple prods and/or prod-dodges excessively, that player will be subject to a force-replace.
  • If you are going to be absent for a specific period of time, please let me know ahead of time!


Votes and Lynching

  • Votes must be in the format of VOTE: Player Name or
    VOTE: Player Name
    . Abbreviations, missing punctuation, and misspellings will be accepted as long as it is obvious to me who is being voted for. If I perceive it as a vote, it will count as a vote.
  • Unvotes are not necessary to change a vote.
  • A player will be lynched if a majority of the players have voted for that player.
  • You may vote for a
    No Lynch
    . If a majority of players vote for a No Lynch, the game will proceed to Night without a lynch.
  • All living players, including the lynchee, may continue to post until I lock the thread.
  • Once I have posted your death scene, you may not post ("bah" posts are not allowed).


Behavior

  • Harassment of an individual player is NOT permitted. While this is a competitive game, no personal attacks will be tolerated.
  • Always play to your win condition.
  • Do not discuss this game anywhere else with anyone else unless your role allows you to.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:29 pm

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Game Setup


This game is using the standard Newbie Game setup, Matrix6. One row or one column will be randomly chosen from the table below and the remaining six roles will be filled in by Mafia Goons and Vanilla Townies as appropriate to create a total of 2 Mafia-aligned players and 7 Town-aligned players.

ABC
1
Town Jailkeeper
Vanilla Townie
Mafia Goon
2
Mafia Roleblocker
Town Cop
Town Doctor
3
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Mafia Goon
Town Tracker


Please note:
  • The Mafia must specify who is performing what Night action when the actions are submitted.
  • In applicable situations, a Roleblocker's action will resolve before a Jailkeeper's action.
  • In applicable situations, a Mafia Roleblocker has the option of submitting both roleblocks and kills, even when the Mafia Goon is still alive.


Spoiler: List of Role PMs
Role PM wrote:You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

Abilities

  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may sleep.


Win Condition

  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Cop
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Abilities

  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may investigate one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. At the end of the Night, you will receive a result in the form of
    You believe [target] to be [Guilty/Not Guilty]
    . If you did not successfully investigate someone, you will receive
    No Result
    .


Win Condition

  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Doctor
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Abilities

  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may protect one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. You may not target yourself. You will not be informed as to the result of your protection.


Win Condition

  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

Abilities

  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may place one player in Jail by sending me the name of your target via PM. They will be protected from kills and prevented from using their own ability, if they have one. You cannot target yourself.


Win Condition

  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a
Town Tracker
.

Abilities

  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • During the Night, you may track one player by sending me the name of your target via PM. At the end of the Night, you will be told if that player targeted anyone and whom that player targeted.


Win Condition

  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a
Town 1-Shot Bulletproof
.

Abilities

  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • You will survive the first kill attempt made on you during the Night. You will not be informed if and when this happens.


Win Condition

  • You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a
Mafia Goon
with your partner, name (
role
).

Abilities

  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • As a team, the Mafia may kill one player per Night by sending posting on the Mafia thread or sending me a PM with your target and which one of you will be performing the kill.
  • You may talk to your partner
    at any time, including the Day phase,
    in this thread.


Win Condition

  • You win when the Town is eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.


Role PM wrote:You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
with your partner, name (
Mafia Goon
).

Abilities

  • During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
  • Individually, you may roleblock one player by sending me the name of your target via the Mafia thread or by PM. You may both roleblock and kill during the same Night.
  • As a team, the Mafia may kill one player per Night by posting on the Mafia thread or by sending me a PM with your target and which one of you will be performing the kill.
  • You may talk to your partner
    at any time, including the Day phase,
    in this thread.


Win Condition

  • You win when the Town is eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.


If you have any questions or comments, feel free to PM me. Please confirm your participation in this game by responding to this PM with your role name. The game thread is here.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:25 am

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With 8/9 confirmed, the game can begin!


Vote Count 1.0


No Vote (9):
eventi, hawkleader3, jachawk, MochaMan, mykonian, Natsu, Random Canadian, Ruku, tojam2

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Thursday, January 21, at 8:00 AM CST, which is in (expired on 2016-01-21 08:00:00).
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:08 am

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Good morning all -

I blame Canada!!!

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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:12 am

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Hey guys. I've played exactly one game of forum mafia before, and it was nearly a decade ago on another site. I've been reading up on the wiki and looked at a couple of other newbie games. Still had a couple questions though about this site's style.

What is the policy on attempting to PM other players? Are you allowed to try and form town bonds or gain information outside the thread?

And secondly, how often does "scheduled posting" work? By that I mean someone declaring a need for everyone to compromise a time where we can all post at once, and then posing a question or comment that they would like to hear a non-planned reaction to by virtue of time stamps. As an example, say there is a cop in the game and the first night has passed. A scheduled posting could be issued to then give a command like this: Everyone post a town power role and what you did with it last night. If you actually are a PR then don't lie. My logic here is that this allows the power roles to stay concealed while still being able to reveal a "will" of what they have been doing in case they die later. Or is there a better way of doing this without outing them?

I haven't really seen either of these tactics in action from what I've perused on this site, but they were an important aspect of the only game I played on another site.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:17 am

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In post 5, Natsu wrote:What is the policy on attempting to PM other players? Are you allowed to try and form town bonds or gain information outside the thread?

As mentioned in the rules above, you may not have any game-related contact with other players outside of the game thread, with the sole exception of the Mafia who have a dedicated private thread they can use at any time.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:41 am

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Evening from Britain, I don't blame it on Canada, I blame it on people with disc shaped hats.

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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:07 am

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PROTIP - it's best to use the vote tags

Code: Select all

[v]BadGuy1234[/v]
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:41 am

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In post 8, eventi wrote:PROTIP - it's best to use the vote tags

Code: Select all

[v]BadGuy1234[/v]


Nice to know. What's the hotkey for unvotes? Any other important ones?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:34 am

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Hello guys, I'm your IC for this game. I've played this game before and although all of you really understand the concept already (bad guys, good guys, votes), you can hardly be expected to know how on MS things are usually done. It pays to fit in just well enough in games like these, so that's why newbie games exist. I'm the person you can come to with your questions and I'll try to answer them as well as I can, regardless of my degree of evilness (I swear I'm like an angel).

It's been a while since I've done this and I'm sure other IC's have nice opening posts, but I'm improvising a bit here.

First things first, I know it's sometimes appealing, but I'd like to get people to promise two things initially: Please don't selfhammer (unless you are scum, kindly do in that case :D). Yes the game can be a drag, people can be wonderfully annoying, but it's a game after all, play it as such. Try to win, even if it seems pretty useless. Outside of the game the same people who pissed you off in game are often very nice, and you want to be able to talk to them again :)

The second thing is that as townie, please don't be too cavalier with claiming vanilla townie. I know it's good to be truthful as a vt and nobody wants to get lynched, but scum know the same! It'll only make it easier for them to aim for our powerroles. You might save yourself, but who do you kill?

These things otherwise tend to catch one by surprise and it doesn't really help much to talk about them after the fact, so now they are out of the way.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:56 am

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In post 9, Natsu wrote:
In post 8, eventi wrote:PROTIP - it's best to use the vote tags

Code: Select all

[v]BadGuy1234[/v]


Nice to know. What's the hotkey for unvotes? Any other important ones?


I'll pass this one over to my minions... I'm a bit oldfashioned, vote tags are of the last couple of years, so I still just bold my votes :(

It matters for some mods (not zaicon) who use an automated votecounter. That one likes a colon to be put after vote for it's search.

In post 5, Natsu wrote:What is the policy on attempting to PM other players? Are you allowed to try and form town bonds or gain information outside the thread?

And secondly, how often does "scheduled posting" work? By that I mean someone declaring a need for everyone to compromise a time where we can all post at once, and then posing a question or comment that they would like to hear a non-planned reaction to by virtue of time stamps. As an example, say there is a cop in the game and the first night has passed. A scheduled posting could be issued to then give a command like this: Everyone post a town power role and what you did with it last night. If you actually are a PR then don't lie. My logic here is that this allows the power roles to stay concealed while still being able to reveal a "will" of what they have been doing in case they die later. Or is there a better way of doing this without outing them?

I haven't really seen either of these tactics in action from what I've perused on this site, but they were an important aspect of the only game I played on another site.


1. Don't do it :( MS really does not like it, unless the game or your role pm says differently. Everything of the game, should be in the game thread.
2. it's not a thing here, really. I know of it, but it died out a long time ago. Not quite sure why. I don't think it was for gamebreaking reasons, most likely it has to do with the smaller density of powerroles here. Either way, if you can organise it, maybe we do it tomorrow ;) Maybe we can figure out with the town if it would help or not.
3. Oh, yes, I suspect your site just had more powerroles. They tend to. I fear pr's tend not to win you the game here, apart from in the wackier themes. You've got to do it yourself!
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:57 am

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oh, and for other tags, if you hit reply in stead of using the quick reply box, you get to a real reply window. It has a ton of tags you could use as buttons, you could scout that.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:04 pm

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What's up guys. I'm hawkleader3 but I could go by hawk. Maybe I can't unless this guy is done. Good luck to you all.

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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:41 pm

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Hullo!
In all of my games here on MS, the IC was a mafia.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:51 am

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Good Morning!

@MochaMan, is that just the 1 game or have you played before under different accounts?

In post 10, mykonian wrote:The second thing is that as townie, please don't be too cavalier with claiming vanilla townie. I know it's good to be truthful as a vt and nobody wants to get lynched, but scum know the same! It'll only make it easier for them to aim for our powerroles. You might save yourself, but who do you kill?


@mykonian, Are you saying the VTs shouldn't claim VT if they're about to get lynched? Or are you just saying don't reveal unless you absolutely have to?

RNG Spat out a 6!

So.... VOTE: Natsu
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:53 am

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In post 13, hawkleader3 wrote:What's up guys. I'm hawkleader3 but I could go by hawk. Maybe I can't unless this guy is done. Good luck to you all.

VOTE: jachawk


Maybe killing him is slightly overreacting :lol: We could just call you Hawk and him Jac? :wink:
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:12 am

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Ruku wrote:@mykonian, Are you saying the VTs shouldn't claim VT if they're about to get lynched? Or are you just saying don't reveal unless you absolutely have to?


The latter. Not saying you can't claim, but people should be a bit careful with it. On first sight it doesn't look like you are giving away all that much with a VT claim, but that's not the whole truth, so you have to be as careful with them as with pr claims.

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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:56 am

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In post 15, Ruku wrote:@MochaMan, is that just the 1 game or have you played before under different accounts?


Just the 1 game on here, quite a few on scumhunt when it was up, and a ton of tabletop mafia.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:28 am

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In post 17, mykonian wrote:
Ruku wrote:@mykonian, Are you saying the VTs shouldn't claim VT if they're about to get lynched? Or are you just saying don't reveal unless you absolutely have to?


The latter. Not saying you can't claim, but people should be a bit careful with it. On first sight it doesn't look like you are giving away all that much with a VT claim, but that's not the whole truth, so you have to be as careful with them as with pr claims.


@ Roku

Expanding on this, I think the idea is that mafia is more likely to claim Vanilla than a power role. Claiming a PR can lead to your insta-lynch if that PR ends up dying later. Also, it might let everyone secure safer lynches so as not to lynch a PR, which narrows things down and might allow mafia to kill our PR's more easily.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:31 am

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In post 15, Ruku wrote:
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RNG Spat out a 6!

So.... VOTE: Natsu


Ruku, sorry for the misspelling above.
Just curious, would you have voted yourself if your RNG landed on 8?
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:45 am

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Ok, should we get to work on finding the scum now we've all made random votes.

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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:50 am

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In post 19, Natsu wrote:
In post 17, mykonian wrote:
Ruku wrote:@mykonian, Are you saying the VTs shouldn't claim VT if they're about to get lynched? Or are you just saying don't reveal unless you absolutely have to?


The latter. Not saying you can't claim, but people should be a bit careful with it. On first sight it doesn't look like you are giving away all that much with a VT claim, but that's not the whole truth, so you have to be as careful with them as with pr claims.


@ Roku

Expanding on this, I think the idea is that mafia is more likely to claim Vanilla than a power role. Claiming a PR can lead to your insta-lynch if that PR ends up dying later. Also, it might let everyone secure safer lynches so as not to lynch a PR, which narrows things down and might allow mafia to kill our PR's more easily.


That makes sense, counter-claiming would also prevent the Mafia from fake-claiming PR and since we can deduce if the Mafia has claimed a role that isn't in the game. It wouldn't be a smart play.

That's an interesting question, I would of been tempted. I can think of reasons both for and against. Self-Voting is never good from what I've seen, but then town should be honest so I'd probably have made a joke about it then ran the RNG again. Hopefully this would cause some early discussion from which I could get some initial reads.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:53 am

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In post 21, tojam2 wrote:Ok, should we get to work on finding the scum now we've all made random votes.

Unvote


I don't think that's how RVS works. It has a purpose, its to generate some discussion and from this we can move forward and raise suspicions, formulate reads etc.. It gives us a bit of material so we can starting using our FoS.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:07 am

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In post 21, tojam2 wrote:Ok, should we get to work on finding the scum now we've all made random votes.

Unvote


Well this is an odd thing to say since we haven't all made random votes yet. I've posted but haven't yet decided on my RVS target. And jachawk doesn't seem to realize that the game has started yet.

I'm going to vote you for now due to seemingly trying to accelerate past RVS and into a part of the game that we are too uninformed to handle.

VOTE: tojam2

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