UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[Cerberus v666]

You said that you think this is scum Titus...but somehow you don't understand how other people could possibly want to lynch them?

I get that it's a hydra and that brings some uncertainty into your read, but every little thing that makes you think this is scum Titus...should come to mind as a reason why others would want to lynch them.

Doesn't add up. I am confused. Please help me stop being confused.

[DiamondSentinel]

No way in hell any other lynch is happening.

VOTE: Itlepip

But tomorrow I was LH and/or RP dead.

[Jeanne11]

Well, to anime alliance, we'll have a nice long talk, won't we?

[Edgar Allan Pro]

Yeah, I do think it's scum titus, but that doesn't really help me read the hydra, which isn't just Titus posting. I guess I'm not that confident in the read?
I was also asking why people wanted a lynch there because I actually don't recall/know why LH was getting votes anyway.

[Edgar Allan Pro]

Wanting to know other people's reasons for voting LH != townreading LH.

[Cerberus v666]

Itlepip is now L-
Jeanne yes, yes we will.

Pedit: fair enough EAP.

[DiamondSentinel]

Yeah, I do think it's scum titus, but that doesn't really help me read the hydra, which isn't just Titus posting. I guess I'm not that confident in the read?
I was also asking why people wanted a lynch there because I actually don't recall/know why LH was getting votes anyway.

Although it this is town Titus (as I've only had one game where Titus has been revealed), then I have to rethink strategy. XD

But I think it is scum Titus.

[DiamondSentinel]

Also, upon further reflection, I believe that voteless is more a scum modifier than anything, so I'd suggest some sort of informative role on Davsto tonight.

[Cerberus v666]

If he is what he said he is, he's much more likely town than scum. If multiball, the odds are astronomically higher than in single ball.

Scum have to get their team through Lylo. Giving a scum a modifier that makes then unable to vote cripples them in LYLO, and essentially requires that you plan to win the game through bussing that team member, and can't really let others get lynched or else the impact of having a voteless member increases greatly. The multiball comment is because multiball means smaller scum teams, so that voteless thing hurts them even more.

Anyways, davsto could be lying about his role,but seriously, it's very unlikely he'd play it this way. Like, omg so unlikely.

[RolePlay25]

Also, upon further reflection, I believe that voteless is more a scum modifier than anything, so I'd suggest some sort of informative role on Davsto tonight.

No, we kill Davsto. The role is negative utility, and you don't fucking send our investigative roles after a negative utility player we have to kill.

[RolePlay25]

If he is what he said he is, he's much more likely town than scum. If multiball, the odds are astronomically higher than in single ball.

Scum have to get their team through Lylo. Giving a scum a modifier that makes then unable to vote cripples them in LYLO, and essentially requires that you plan to win the game through bussing that team member, and can't really let others get lynched or else the impact of having a voteless member increases greatly. The multiball comment is because multiball means smaller scum teams, so that voteless thing hurts them even more.

Anyways, davsto could be lying about his role,but seriously, it's very unlikely he'd play it this way. Like, omg so unlikely.

The scum version of the role is secret vote mover (their vote is actually on a player other than who their vote appears to be on, they true-vote by messaging the moderator).

I agree it's unlikely he'd play this way as scum, but maaan that role is beyond terrible for the town. Raising the lynch threshold by 1 without being able to apply that vote anywhere is beyond terrible. Which, um... kinda fits with the theme of this game.

[Cerberus v666]

Also, upon further reflection, I believe that voteless is more a scum modifier than anything, so I'd suggest some sort of informative role on Davsto tonight.

No, we kill Davsto. The role is negative utility, and you don't fucking send our investigative roles after a negative utility player we have to kill.

Yep. Now RP, you can hammer itlepip if you want. He's at real L-1. Up to you, if you think people are gonna answer my question or we can swing the vote to LH, I'm okay with that too.

[DiamondSentinel]

If he is what he said he is, he's much more likely town than scum. If multiball, the odds are astronomically higher than in single ball.

Scum have to get their team through Lylo. Giving a scum a modifier that makes then unable to vote cripples them in LYLO, and essentially requires that you plan to win the game through bussing that team member, and can't really let others get lynched or else the impact of having a voteless member increases greatly. The multiball comment is because multiball means smaller scum teams, so that voteless thing hurts them even more.

Anyways, davsto could be lying about his role,but seriously, it's very unlikely he'd play it this way. Like, omg so unlikely.

The scum version of the role is secret vote mover (their vote is actually on a player other than who their vote appears to be on, they true-vote by messaging the moderator).

I agree it's unlikely he'd play this way as scum, but maaan that role is beyond terrible for the town. Raising the lynch threshold by 1 without being able to apply that vote anywhere is beyond terrible. Which, um... kinda fits with the theme of this game.

I thought we had determined that there was more to this game than what you'd expect as miserable.

I mean, PGO Cop? That's by no means miserable. The only role besides Davsto's that's miserable is mine and the miller(s), and even mine is just because it sucks for my play style.

[3dicerolling]

If he is what he said he is, he's much more likely town than scum. If multiball, the odds are astronomically higher than in single ball.

Scum have to get their team through Lylo. Giving a scum a modifier that makes then unable to vote cripples them in LYLO, and essentially requires that you plan to win the game through bussing that team member, and can't really let others get lynched or else the impact of having a voteless member increases greatly. The multiball comment is because multiball means smaller scum teams, so that voteless thing hurts them even more.

Anyways, davsto could be lying about his role,but seriously, it's very unlikely he'd play it this way. Like, omg so unlikely.

The scum version of the role is secret vote mover (their vote is actually on a player other than who their vote appears to be on, they true-vote by messaging the moderator).

I agree it's unlikely he'd play this way as scum, but maaan that role is beyond terrible for the town. Raising the lynch threshold by 1 without being able to apply that vote anywhere is beyond terrible. Which, um... kinda fits with the theme of this game.

I thought we had determined that there was more to this game than what you'd expect as miserable.

I mean, PGO Cop? That's by no means miserable. The only role besides Davsto's that's miserable is mine and the miller(s), and even mine is just because it sucks for my play style.

I mean, I could possibly see PGO Cop, but the way Itlepip claimed it seems rather convenient.

[Cerberus v666]

Pgo cop makes scum miserable. Godfathers and millers everywhere make the cop miserable. My role is not miserable, other than the headaches it's causing me. :p

Pedit: it.....was the way such things are generally done. Brought to L-1, claim.

[3dicerolling]

Pgo cop makes scum miserable. Godfathers and millers everywhere make the cop miserable. My role is not miserable, other than the headaches it's causing me. :p

Pedit: it.....was the way such things are generally done. Brought to L-1, claim.

I meant like, how he gets PGO when Mass Flop dies.

[Cerberus v666]

Ah. He didn't say that. He has a choice to cop or be pgo each night. When Mass Flop dies, he loses his copping and compulsively pgos.

[3dicerolling]

Ah. He didn't say that. He has a choice to cop or be pgo each night. When Mass Flop dies, he loses his copping and compulsively pgos.

Yes this is what I meant.

[DiamondSentinel]

Which would imply Mass Flop is town. Which I really don't like as an implication.

[Cerberus v666]

Ah. Hmmm. I'm not sure that says anything about Mass Flops alignment.

[itlepip]

Ah. He didn't say that. He has a choice to cop or be pgo each night. When Mass Flop dies, he loses his copping and compulsively pgos.

^

I did say that I liked my role a lot when Diamond complained about his. I said that my role is basically a cc so an investigative/pgo WIFOM during the Jeanne wagon. I'm not looking to explain whether my role is miserable enough (we have an IC and a dream god so...), the question is everyone else is scumreading LH is seems, but no one wants to look scummy by not having a lynch so kill the invest!!! We have enough people posting to kill LH, if by 2 hours before deadline we don't get LH I'll selfvote alright? But I don't want to get mislynched with 8 people on my wagon as a compromis, especially when I started this game with cerb bragging about how he never gets mislynched.


Pedit: I honestly think that Mass Flop's alignment is not determined by my role. Dram said that alignment was picked after roles were.

[DiamondSentinel]

Well, this stays in the back of my mind. Meanwhile, if we can get enough on Learned Hand, I want them dead. But if that's not happening, I'll settle for Itle.

[RolePlay25]

This was the stronger read all along. I dislike LH on a personal level more (and don't think they're town) but this is the much stronger scum read. So it comes down would I rather hammer the 75% scum read, or try and get the 60% read lynched?

The claim was fucking excellent. Exactly how town should claim, and if Itle fabricated that as scum, then he did a very nice job. Of course if he did so as scum, then he had daytalk and all the time in the world to do so.

Uggghhh. I spent time reviewing his ISO, I looked at BBMolla's uninterrupted history of posting while flaking from this one specific game, I could tell you all the reasons, but if I'm right then they don't matter, and if I'm wrong no one cares.

Yes, I'm convinced. If I'm wrong, so be it. Feel free to vig me tomorrow or whatever. I stand by this, and the deadline is not my reason.

Vote: Itle

[Cerberus v666]

I would be quite content with a LH lynch. My reservations are mostly gone. *shrug* really just waiting to see what everyone else has to say about LH, like DS here.

Pedit. Welp, that's that.

[zMuffinMan]

20 pages... yay