Micro 567: Kids with Guns - Game Over

[Not_Mafia]

VC 1.01

Kublai Khan (1)-

TellTaleHeart

Raskolnikov (1)-

Guilty Lion

Suzune (1)-

Marquis

Marquis (0)-

GuiltyLion (0)-

advantage (3)-

Suzune, Kublai Kahn, ArcAngel9

(L-2)

TellTaleHeart (0)-

ArcAngel9 (1)-

Raskolnikov

Not Voting (2)-

advantage, ArcAngel9

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-01-29 01:00:00)

- Jan 29th 01:00 GMT

[Raskolnikov]

Wow this wagon is actually genius.

[Raskolnikov]

Hey advantage.

Intent To Hammer:

(expired on 2016-01-13 02:53:58)

[advantage]

Hey advantage.

Intent To Hammer:

(expired on 2016-01-13 02:53:58)

well i should claim now, i am just vanilla townie so there is not much i can do anyway...

i don't think suzune's reasons for voting me are any good, just because i questioned someone trying to play the game how i think to play. kublai kahn and arcangel9 didn't even say why and just copied the vote, maybe they themselves are scared of being lynched for no reason.

i'm not sure why marquis thinks i am a possible townie, when there is hardly any evidence either way and only 27 posts so far.

please don't kill me! ;-,

[Raskolnikov]

Revision: (expired on 2016-01-12 13:31:42)

[GuiltyLion]

I'm pretty sure he's at L-2, not L-1. I'm not completely sold on advantage being genuine with his claim but if he did think he was gonna get hammered then he probably would have suicide bombed if he's the bomber.

Why'd you ignore my question? What's with the rush to hammer here?

[Marquis]

really don't think advantage is scum. do think suzune's vote there was the most likely to be scum capitalizing on the awkwardness.

[advantage]

I'm pretty sure he's at L-2, not L-1. I'm not completely sold on advantage being genuine with his claim but if he did think he was gonna get hammered then he probably would have suicide bombed if he's the bomber.

Why'd you ignore my question? What's with the rush to hammer here?

oh... so that was just a trick and he needed two votes to lynch me instead, i don't see what that accomplished at all.

[advantage]

really don't think advantage is scum. do think suzune's vote there was the most likely to be scum capitalizing on the awkwardness.

well i don't think so about suzune because he at least gave a reason, even if it was a bad one, while the other two people just voted me for no reason.

[advantage]

well i think kublai khan is a possible mafia, because he has only made two posts and they both just have a vote in them with no other text. since maybe he wants to blend in and hide by not posting anything potentially suspicious.

i think that guiltylion and marquis are towns probably.

VOTE: kublai khan

[Marquis]

i legit hate to break it to you but sometimes when it comes to certain subsets of players scum try harder than town do and that's a sad truth

[advantage]

i legit hate to break it to you but sometimes when it comes to certain subsets of players scum try harder than town do and that's a sad truth

well hm, i see how that makes sense to an extent... ;-, because if he was a mafia then he would want to try harder to make us think he is a townie, but he isn't trying to do it.

VOTE: unvote

but okay, i think he should just try to post more and say things so we are able to tell if he is just town not trying very hard, or a mafia trying to blend in. otherwise my vote is not of use as pressure if he is not going to say anything and just play quiet, but he will need to talk eventually not just post votes.

[Raskolnikov]

Cancel Intent

Advantage confirmed not suicide bomber.

[Raskolnikov]

Goddamnit he wasn't actually at L-1 Arcangel you ruined it.

[advantage]

so was that the idea you had when you lied about saying you would hammer me, to test if i was a suicide bomber? or are you just making it up now...

[Raskolnikov]

Yeah, I fucked up by not counting the votes. The VC post before mine didn't actually have the vote count in it yet, it just said "VC". I think mod could confirm.

At least we managed to skip rvs I guess.

[advantage]

Yeah, I fucked up by not counting the votes. The VC post before mine didn't actually have the vote count in it yet, it just said "VC". I think mod could confirm.

At least we managed to skip rvs I guess.

yeah he changed it afterwards from vc to what it is now, that's true. i was tricked too by arcangel9 so it's still a valid test unless i'm lying about that, which i'm not!

[advantage]

and i think you are telling the truth about trying to test if i was the suicide bomber or not, by your post #26 saying the wagon was genius, since you saw the intention of how it could be used to trigger the suicide bomber.

[TellTaleHeart]

i legit hate to break it to you but sometimes when it comes to certain subsets of players scum try harder than town do and that's a sad truth

Did you mean that to apply to Khan specifically or are you just saying that in general?

[Suzune]

Seemed like a good early game reason, if nothing else. The questioning was strange and I so often find early game things so odd.

I'm going to unvote, UNVOTE: because I was just pushing advantage and I think he stands up for the minute

[Kublai Khan]

Hmm..

I'm not really swayed by advantage's claim. The ~approx half hour gave him plenty of time to count the votes and make the safeclaim.

But, other things are happening. I'm really not linking 35 by Marquis. I get what he's saying, but I don't think it's a valid enough reason to townread me to the point of defending me against an advantage wagon. Especially since it's so early in the game and there really isn't much else to go on.

I can see it as scummy for a couple of (admittedly outlandish) reasons (i.e. buddying me, passive aggressive manipulation to his Suzanne wagon).

Vote: Marquis

[Marquis]

i'm not townreading kk but i guess i can see how it came off that way

my comment was more focused on suzune (in line with pretty much all the other stuff!) and was pretty much critiquing how advantage gave suzune a pass for padding her vote with a reason, when that's no reason in the current meta to think someone's more town than another

[advantage]

i think it's suspicious how multiple people now have said that they don't trust me and my role but they still unvote. well, actually it's only guiltylion and kublai khan who said very similar things, suzune said a similar thing and unvoted but not trying to frame me still...

I'm not completely sold on advantage being genuine with his claim

I'm not really swayed by advantage's claim. The ~approx half hour gave him plenty of time to count the votes and make the safeclaim.

kublai khan do you truly think i am secretly the suicide bomber and counted the votes correctly, since raskolnikov was tricked too, it's even possible that arcangel made a counting mistake but i think that he was trying to trick me on purpose. maybe even you were tricked, who knows... ;-, it looks like you don't want to let go of your vote and you are trying to still make me look suspicious even though i am a townie.

if i was a mafia then it takes two minutes if i really counted the votes to just say i am vanilla townie, i was just not online to reply at that time so i don't see why time means anything.

But, other things are happening. I'm really not linking 35 by Marquis. I get what he's saying, but I don't think it's a valid enough reason to townread me to the point of defending me against an advantage wagon. Especially since it's so early in the game and there really isn't much else to go on.

I can see it as scummy for a couple of (admittedly outlandish) reasons (i.e. buddying me, passive aggressive manipulation to his Suzanne wagon).

Vote: Marquis

and this part of the post is weirdly dissonant, you say "really not linking" at the start but then the rest of the reasons are not very strong and you admit it. you don't sound convinced of your own words...

VOTE: kublai khan

[ArcAngel9]

I'm pretty sure he's at L-2, not L-1. I'm not completely sold on advantage being genuine with his claim but if he did think he was gonna get hammered then he probably would have suicide bombed if he's the bomber.

Why'd you ignore my question? What's with the rush to hammer here?

I agree with this. the claim was bad. I am comfortable with where my vote is.

[advantage]

I'm pretty sure he's at L-2, not L-1. I'm not completely sold on advantage being genuine with his claim but if he did think he was gonna get hammered then he probably would have suicide bombed if he's the bomber.

Why'd you ignore my question? What's with the rush to hammer here?

I agree with this. the claim was bad. I am comfortable with where my vote is.

why is it bad, i said my real role, what else could i say... ;-,