Micro 565: The Walking Dead Ep. 1(Game Over)

[absinthe]

You don't think that Rascolnikov's fake claim was mod provided?

I do.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'm thinking we should popcorn a mass character claim, at this point I'm 100% certain they are alignment indicative.

I'm typically against massclaim this early. Why do you think this would be helpful for you?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

You don't think that Rascolnikov's fake claim was mod provided?

I do.

"one sec.


uh... I'm a vt.


uhhhhh Lori!"

no... mod provided? I mean calling Lori for character was a risk I think, and I was wondering about that, but VT isn't a claim that needs mod assistance.

[No Brainer]

Thinking it's ETL right now.
-Cheet.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Thinking it's ETL right now.
-Cheet.

You are wrong. Look elsewhere.

[No Brainer]

I won't be obnoxious about it.
But that's my gut right now.
Something about that reaction to the hammer just doesn't jive with me on reflection
-Cheet.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

For the record, I will not engage in any arguments about my alignment or actions with the NB hydra, because I know that mollie and I tend to butt heads, and if there's going to be questions about my alignment, go ahead and discuss it with other people. I'm not interested in refuting what I know to be wrong.

[TheManWhoSoldTheWorld]

Wednesday_, EspeciallyTheLies BlueBloodedToffee, absinthe, are probably the people I'm going to look at first on a reread, and check how they connect to Rasko. I'm not convinced his partner would be on the wagon, it was day one and he was a power role, he seems worth the risk to try and save, especially when Ducks was there as an easy mislynch.

In order of suspicion it would be
Wednesday
BBT
absinthe
ETL

I'm thinking a character claim is good because it doesn't actually give away our PRs, so those are still safe, and I have information that could make it pretty easy to catch scum in a lie.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

k. I'm the chick who dies early at that part where they were in the woods before going into atlanta and then she comes back. andrea (?) sister. i forgot her name. one moment.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Amy.

[absinthe]

You don't think that Rascolnikov's fake claim was mod provided?

I do.

"one sec.


uh... I'm a vt.


uhhhhh Lori!"

no... mod provided? I mean calling Lori for character was a risk I think, and I was wondering about that, but VT isn't a claim that needs mod assistance.

It's a high profile character and as you suggest, dangerous to claim if the mod hadn't given at least the name to him as a safe one.

That's why I think it was probably mod provided.

What's the usual deal at MS? Do mods provide a whole fake role PM, or give the scum team a list of names that are safe to claim? Or are scum completely on their own?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

It's up to mod discretion. Some do and some don't, and some provide it upon request, while others put it right into the scum PT at the start.

[TheManWhoSoldTheWorld]

@ETL want to popcorn to anyone, also FYI that list was from most suspicious to least suspicious.

[absinthe]

I'm not sure I'm in favor of this just yet.

[No Brainer]

Absinthe, BBT and the man are pretty likely town.
Wednesday could be scum.
lalala could be scum.
ETL is best bet.
We're unfortunately unlynchable now.
c:
-Cheet.

[absinthe]

anyone think raskol's lala push was a bus? was trying to figure out if it felt that way or not but i dont know. it doesn't feel like it. but unless wednesday is raskol's partner, someone on his wagon is. after rereading i didn't really feel like wednesday was.

i'm concerned about NB based on the kill because i feel like the only other people besides me who would have caught what anti was throwing out and would be worried about being read by him is mollie. the reasoning given by cheet about why raskol was scum wasn't strong at all either, but beyond these things i thought they were town, so i dont know.

i'm inclined to think theman is pure town, even if he didn't realize it was a hammer. the reaction was genuine.

eh. cheet's reaction to the hammer was pretty good too, so nevermind that for today i guess.

still concerned about lala not being townlala. waffling on wednesday but my gut makes me want to vote there. BBT doesn't feel great either. i think absinthe looked better later on.

so... yeah. someone talk to me.

Why does BBT feel not great?

[No Brainer]

@theman,
BBT was the hardest pusher on rasko wasn't he? And it was long before it was a popular push to be making.
Why wouldn't he be town for you by your logic?
-Cheet.

[absinthe]

TMWSTW why is laladucks town, given the Rascolnikov flip?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

@ETL want to popcorn to anyone, also FYI that list was from most suspicious to least suspicious.

I think Wednesday is a good one to go next.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

@theman,
BBT was the hardest pusher on rasko wasn't he? And it was long before it was a popular push to be making.
Why wouldn't he be town for you by your logic?
-Cheet.

for me, this is why. and then he disappeared. it's easy to push a partner when there's no other pressure.

[No Brainer]

I don't feel like BBT is scum.
But I'll be rereading when I get home tonight.
-Cheet.

[TheManWhoSoldTheWorld]

Ducks being town is not based on the flip.

@No Brainer, yeah you're right. I need to sit down and reread this game. Still think that Wednesday would be better before ETL.

@ETL, you're also right. I REALLY need to sit down and reread this game.

[absinthe]

No Brainer, I have mixed feelings about the interactions between EspeciallyTheLies and Rascolnikov

Raskolnikov, what are your other reads?

Don't like ETL. ETL + TheMan claim to be lost/confused but TheMan feels more genuine about it. He buddies antihero and lazy votes wednesday. In general I'm not impressed with the wagon on wednesday which is poorly reasoned and looks partly policy. Wednesday is being a dick but he's trying and I townlean him. Idk how to read weird people like lalala and antihero. You're actually okay.

When I read this post, I thought it could be a throwaway FoS on his partner.

I was starting to like you until this bullshit. Please quote me where I said I was lost and/or confused. And then, even though you won't find it since I never said such a thing ever, explain why it's scummy.

Also, it's news to me that "in class = lazy". And your unwarranted defense of Wednesday is noted. I don't think anyone is voting him for being an asshole.

Eh. I might have been a too harsh. I'll go into why I saw you this way.

When I looked at you recently, I first noticed you "weren't feeling your absinthe vote" and voted wednesday (who had 0 posts at the time) so I read that you were sort of settling on the 0 poster through lack of better ideas (post 153). After wednesday showed up you unvoted and

anti my love let's have a chat. i'm kinda meh on things. probably could do with a good sit down on the last 10 pages or so. i might do that over lunch later today.

there's things i like and don't like but for some reason i'm not feeling super strong about anyone yet. which is weird.

which I'm pretty sure you imply being a bit lost or directionless, or at least that's I'm seeing, and that you want your townread to help you out because of it. The next few posts you insist on him answering/interacting with you, and when he can't

i'm not doing things in this game. and it's everyone's fault.

which I saw as a bit of resignation and reinforced my thought.

Now this all isn't actually bad, it's why I saw you as somewhat directionless. Whether it's actually bad or not is whether I believe it's genuinely town confusion or scum not being able to scumhunt well (because they know who are town). Going over it again I think I just didn't want to townread both you and TheMan for pretty much the same reason so I went too far with this. I still think your vote on wednesday was lazy: you didn't explain it until recently and even now I think it's just okay. I didn't know you were good friends with antihero either, so that explains things too. Overall you're more nullish now tbh. I have to look over lala and antihero again now. BBT still #1 scum.

But this post looks like appeasement to me, like he was trying to get her to back off.

I reread the game during the night, but another read wouldn't hurt.

I'll be back in a couple hours.

[No Brainer]

I think that may have been a coached interaction
But that's probably gutconfbias talking and I basically need to shut up until I talk to mollie and read the game with any level of effort
Still riding off a little bit of a high after that lynch.
-Cheet

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Lol at people thinking I'm scum.

ETL is town by the way.

Will read properly at some point over the weekend.