In post 25, Not_Mafia wrote:advantage (3)- Suzune, Kublai Kahn, ArcAngel9 (L-2)
I'm scumreading all three of the people on this wagon for different reasons. I really don't want to be but I can't seem to easily trim the list. :/
VOTE: Suzune
Vote going back here because the self-insertion as a voice of reason without real reads/analysis/committed content seems like the most likely indicator of scum.
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Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
I have every reason to believe that his reason to jump into my wagon is vague.
how so, when literally the entire reason was guiltylion agreeing with marquis? marquis' reason wasn't vague and you aren't accusing him either.
i dunno, maybe there's something there with how kublai khan says how a townie should react to a wagon and then you come back and do that. so why vote guiltylion now and not before when you said the people voting you (referring to guiltylion) were mafias?
In post 77, Marquis wrote:TTH, reads on the three on that advantage wagon, and also on me?
I don't really have anything I would call a read yet. I have scattered thoughts but they don't really make sense.
i can understand this but it would help if you posted your semi-formed thoughts anyway, because otherwise we won't get anywhere since if nobody posts then there will be no way to make reads to post. i'm not really confident about what is going on either but i still try to write my thoughts.
When I was looking at page 3 again, I was thinking Suzune's conversation with Khan on page 3 was super awkward. I was kind of feeling a Suzune scumread for a second, but then I saw the follow ups Post 67 and Post 69. It's not whiny or defensive and she apparently doesn't feel threatened enough to change course and actually vote for someone.
I'm getting kind of creepy vibes off of GuiltyLion and, to a lesser extent, Khan and Marquis.
Nothing any of them have said is technically "wrong" or "scummy" per se. GuiltyLion and Khan have an oddly robotic feel to their posts. They seem to have no trouble pointing out things that could
potentially
be scummy but there's a missing link that would really give their logic trains anything satisfyingly readable.
I have yet to fully get to the bottom of Marquis' obsession with the advantage wagon. There's a smidgen less doubt than I'd think in that thrust that makes it a tad unsettling.
I have a couple townreads, but they're still in the embryonic phase and I'd rather leave them alone until I think it's helpful to bring them up.
I'm sensing sort of a suspicious feeling from Marquis but I do not have very much to go on right now. The flavour style of the posts and the way things are said looks odd to me.
However I am more curious about that Rask will do. They tried to make a big play early game and then has disappeared since then.
In post 87, Suzune wrote:I'm sensing sort of a suspicious feeling from Marquis but I do not have very much to go on right now. The flavour style of the posts and the way things are said looks odd to me.
well you never said this earlier and only now you say it, after telltaleheart says the same thing? and well i think marquis is a trustworthy townie and you are just trying to discredit him here, i think maybe he is right about you.
VOTE: suzune
really not much is happening and i think this is an okay player to kill, even though kublai khan looks like a mafia to me there can be two mafias, and i could be wrong about kublai khan...
When I was looking at page 3 again, I was thinking Suzune's conversation with Khan on page 3 was super awkward. I was kind of feeling a Suzune scumread for a second, but then I saw the follow ups Post 67 and Post 69. It's not whiny or defensive and she apparently doesn't feel threatened enough to change course and actually vote for someone.
hm... i think that suzune was trying to keep looking consistent here because of how it would look bad for her to give in to kublai khan and just change the vote. so i think suzune would do the same thing if mafia or townie in respect to the not changing course.
hm? She did say something about him. My bad. What did I discredit him for doing, I merely mentioned that I felt like he was strange. That hardly discredits him, more it says I am reading and paying attention to him.
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
I upgrade my former RVS vote on AA to a real one at this point. A lot of these points were probably already covered but anyways.
I really don't like what she was doing in the advantage wagon. Basically she runs him up to L-1 (which leaves him vulnerable or at least forces a claim), which isn't a terrible move if you are doing it for pressure and to gauge a reaction. From what I can tell she was 100% serious about actually having the man lynched though, and what makes it really bad is her actions afterwards. From how she continued to want his lynch and her not really explaining otherwise it's safe to say she was entirely willing to go all the way in the quicklynch even before hearing the claim.
Essentially she didn't like the VT claim and wanted him lynched for it. Now I want everyone to pay attention: ArcAngel is not a new player, she has years of experience and over 6000 posts. She brought advantage to L-1 which forced him to claim, and then wanted to lynch him for claiming VT. Either she had such a strong read that she wanted him lynched regardless of claim, or she wanted him to lie about being VT, and she really believes in some weird lynch-all-VT-claims policy (?!!). Not to mention even if he fake claimed a power role the misinformation could really mess us up, god forbid the actual PR counterclaims. I really think she's pretending to be this clueless to essentially get away with murder, and it's actually sort of working. Bad vote onto guiltylion as well.
so how is what arcangel9 did by putting me at l-1 any different from what you did by stating intent to hammer? because you aren't supposed to claim until intent to hammer so it was technically you who made me say my role...
well i don't know, i don't think she is being bad on purpose as a mafia. that seems like a bad strategy and nobody would follow her, mafias want to blend in to the surroundings, and if she knew that what she said was wrong then she is drawing bad attention to herself. so i don't think she is a mafia. the idea of her actually trying to get me lynched after everyone else already unvoted is really futile if she is a mafia. realistically i think she is a townie with an odd misconception of people not being townies just because they made bad plays (which is what you are saying here to an extent too... ;-,). i think the mafias are more likely people like kublai khan who keep their options open to say either way i am a mafia or i am a townie.
maybe you think that guiltylion is a mafia, and even if he is a mafia arcangel9's vote was still bad because the reasons don't make sense. she said that guiltylion's reason for voting was vague when guiltylion was agreeing with marquis' comment which was specific.
