Newbie 1677 (Game Over)

[PhantomCobalt]

If your vote is because I didn't respond to the focal point thing I'd rather not talk about that.

[hawkleader3]

I think mochaman has voted tojam to counter my argument that he is partnered with tojam, but it isn't going to work

PhantomColbat, what do you mean when you say "intent to hammer" when at the time you posted it, nobody was at L-1

[PhantomCobalt]

I think mochaman has voted tojam to counter my argument that he is partnered with tojam, but it isn't going to work

PhantomColbat, what do you mean when you say "intent to hammer" when at the time you posted it, nobody was at L-1

RIP sorry

[PhantomCobalt]

VOTE: Lia

[MochaMan]

@hawkleader3

@HawkLeader

How did I turn you into 'easy lynch bait'?

[Ruku]

Prodge ish. I'll follow up tomorrow morning.

[Lia]

no sorry, I don't get that post. I don't see a first line talking about hawkleaders claim. The fact that you wanted to vote him in your first post of the game really doesn't matter given that something did change after that.

Which is why I confirmed that I hadn't changed my opinion and that he was still my top scumread after the claim. What was it about his claim that made you switch to town reading him? Come to that, I don't think you ever gave a reason for scum reading him earlier.

What do you think about jachawk and tojam sheeping your vote on me like they did?

It appears that you are referring to your initial posts to justify your choice. This kind of ignores all the discussion that has occurred after your initial post, suggesting that you had pre-decided whom to lynch right from the moment you joined the game.

That initial post took account of everything that happened up to that point (around 70% of the current thread volume). If you read my posts you will see that I haven't ignored what's gone on since then but have added Mocha to my lynch pool and asked two or three questions. What are you claiming has happened since then that you felt should have affect my vote? Because from looking at your posts you don't seem to have found much to comment on since I joined the game.

@ tojam:

The justification for my vote is in 163 which I presume you've read? What's your opinion on my reasons?

[mykonian]

His claim seemed to come from the right mindset. I don't think we should lynch hawk.

I don't think if I ever gave a reason, but my problems with hawk stemmed from a weakish early game that somehow had to be solved by a big analysis post with which I also had some issues. I didn't want to let him get away with that.

As for people sheeping me, they are the best. I think we got a scum.

[Natsu]

It's mostly just the fervor you seem to have in attacking mocha and lia.

[Ruku]

First of all I'd like to apologise for losing track of this game, I was off ill since the weekend and really haven't felt like doing much. Alas, i'm much better now! Let's get back to the game.

I'll just go through from where I left off and comment on some main points. I'll then follow up with a read list.

Tojam2

Here is one last statement about tojam then i'm done with him.

I'm essentially ignoring his posts at this point, most are non-sensical, baseless, categorically wrong or just plain useless. I get the feeling he's not actually reading the game just the previous post before the one he posts.

Example:

MochaMan Posts about how he has lost where the game is going at this point. (Post VOTE: 193)
PC attacks him for it. (Post VOTE: 197)
MyKon explains to us why saying "I don't know what's happening anymore" is a scum tell.
...
Wait for it
...
Post VOTE: 202: Tojam2: "Ok, I still have no idea where this is going"
?!?!?

Then he randomly claims.

I really don't like the Mykon - Tojam interaction. I think if Tojam flips Scum Mykon is next on the chopping block.

PC

Although initially I wasn't a fan of the one liners full of useless content. It's got somewhat better and I especially like his point towards jachawk in (post VOTE: 222) stating that he reiterates the same point he just made.

jachawk

I don't like his post VOTE: 210.

Could you explain why MochaMan strikes you as scummy? Because the scum-tell for the post you linked that mykon explained later. Is then critisised by you in the next paragraph.

Although, I've read through his ISO and this is one of the first posts i've taken issue to.

Lia

Very low number of posts and seems to be casting a very wide net.

Still no justification on Mocha but you're happy to lynch him, I see very weak reads on the rest. Gut mostly and even less than that on Natsu.

Read-List

Scum: tojam2
Scum-Lean: mykonian, Lia
Null: hawkleader3. PhantomCobalt
Town-Lean: jachawk, MochaMan
Town: Natsu

I think we need to start looking to hammer someone now.

My choices are (in order): tojam, mykon (probably won't happen), Lia.

@Mod - Can we have an official vote count.

VOTE: Tojam2

[PhantomCobalt]

For the future, to link posts you click the post tags on the very right of the bottom row.

[Zaicon]

Vote Count 1.8

Lia (4):

mykonian, jachawk, tojam2, PhantomCobalt

tojam2 (2):

MochaMan, Ruku

MochaMan (1):

hawkleader3

hawkleader3 (1):

Lia

PhantomCobalt (1):

Natsu

No Vote (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Thursday, January 21, at 8:00 AM CST, which is in (expired on 2016-01-21 08:00:00).

[MochaMan]

I think mochaman has voted tojam to counter my argument that he is partnered with tojam, but it isn't going to work

If you think tojam2 is scum, go ahead and vote him then. I promise I won't move my vote

[hawkleader3]

Intent to hammer Lia if no claim is made soon. Should we give any time limit for her? I'll give her 12 hours at least, but I want an opinion from others on this

[tojam2]

Ok, I hope that Lia is scum, otherwise you will all incorrectly vote for me next round, scum will probably try to frame me too.

By friendship chains I'm talking about the main partnerships between players, the likelyhood is that one group of 2 (Me and Natsu for example) or two groups of 1 (Lia and jachawk) are scum as there is 2 scum among us.

[tojam2]

@hawkleader3, you should have seen last game when someone proposed that scum voted for one another, it leads to a scum victory.

[jachawk]

jachawk

I don't like his post VOTE: 210.

Could you explain why MochaMan strikes you as scummy? Because the scum-tell for the post you linked that mykon explained later. Is then critisised by you in the next paragraph.

Although, I've read through his ISO and this is one of the first posts i've taken issue to.

@ruku : I think you misread 210, I have tried to explain why I feel mochaman would not be the right person to vote for.

It appears that you are referring to your initial posts to justify your choice. This kind of ignores all the discussion that has occurred after your initial post, suggesting that you had pre-decided whom to lynch right from the moment you joined the game.

That initial post took account of everything that happened up to that point (around 70% of the current thread volume). If you read my posts you will see that I haven't ignored what's gone on since then but have added Mocha to my lynch pool and asked two or three questions. What are you claiming has happened since then that you felt should have affect my vote? Because from looking at your posts you don't seem to have found much to comment on since I joined the game.

@lia : The issue I have with your posts is that you cast suspicion on a number of people and suggest that you are ok with voting any of them. This seems scummy to me because town should have no problem voting for and justifying their vote against the one person they find scummiest. Adding Mocha to your

lynch pool

does little to say otherwise.

[Ruku]

TIL [ VOTE ] != [ POST ] >.<

[Ruku]

Mochaman never really struck me as scummy till now

This very clearly implies that you think he's scum.

[Ruku]

If it gets to tonight (6 hours ish) I will hammer Lia.

[MochaMan]

Just a heads up, noticing the time. I'm not going to be here for the last ~8 hours before the deadline, but if I can wake up in time hopefully I'll be there for the last half an hour or so.

[tojam2]

This will also be my last post before N1, good luck, sorry Lia if you are town.

[Ruku]

Another scum tell from Tojam. The whole sorry if your town seems so fake. It's like he's trying to remove responsibility.

[PhantomCobalt]

I agree, or some late day distancing

[Ruku]

Hammering.

VOTE: Lia