UNI MUM Mafia (Day 3, Stay Gold Pony)

[dramonic]

There's nothing funny about this DS.

@mod: Please confirm that FB wasn't playing against win con. I need to know whether I need to go get him banned.

He didn't kill himself on purpose if that's the question

Because EAP cleared zmuffin, and I see absolutely no reason why he wouldn't have sold him out to save his own life as third party.

Moderator, does the modifier "in need of guidance" suggest that the player can be guided towards a faction's win condition based on some existing condition?

Based on ingame events, yes

Since third parties are part of the game, would their nature be suggested by their role flip? Like "XXXXX XXXXXX Serial Killer" or "XXXXXXXX XXXXX Survivor"?

I am super confused by your question

[Klingoncelt]

isn't LH confscum? did I misunderstand?

Firebringer desperado'd them. He died. They're conftown now.

[3dicerolling]

Great, now that we know Firebringer is a bomb giver and LH is town, can we lynch Mass Flop scum?

[Cerberus v666]

isn't LH confscum? did I misunderstand?

Why would LH be confscum?

[3dicerolling]

*is not a bomb giver

[Cerberus v666]

So, EAPS clear on zmuffin is null. Cool. Don't particularly mind lynching him then. I feel like I could probably solve the game at this point if I had the time to dive into the absurd amount of content so far.

[3dicerolling]

@Mod - Aye yo dram, can we get a vote count sometime soon?

[Klingoncelt]

We are informed town.

We know there are multiple millers and godfathers in the game. We have {at least one} other thing{s} that I won't claim no matter what, even at L-1. Please see Mafiaception if you don't believe me. I would rather eat a mislynch because scum are afraid of what I will refuse to reveal even at L-1 and let the town benefit from their paranoia than reveal something that the rest of my faction (town) really doesn't need to know right now, and which will only help scum if I said it.

You're a target for the NK.

Any info you have would be helpful right now.

[Klingoncelt]

The evidence is far stronger that zmuffin waa town than anyone else, except for KC and yourself. As far as I'm concerned, we currently have 4 probable-conftown: LH, RP, KC, and Zmuffin.

Evidence isn't as strong as confirmation.

But leaving the 4 listed out,
you,
Davsto,
DiamondSentinel,
Elbirn,
Mass Flop,
Shiro, and
3dicerolling are our choices.

I prefer Shiro.

[Cerberus v666]

KC, if EAPs win con became winning with scum ONLY, then there is no evidence. If he was just a survivor there is strong evidence..

[Learned Hand]

@Klingon, I understand. I have no additional information in my role pm. Very good play of you to try and get me involved. I read best by looking at other people and seeing how they interact with each other and jumping in when I have thoughts or want to steer.

So trust me that I am watching. Game health does not need to center on me.

We should both have reads lists with reasons before hammer.

[dramonic]

@Mod - Aye yo dram, can we get a vote count sometime soon?

Votecount reset when Firebringer died. There is quite literally 1 vote in play right now.

[3dicerolling]

VOTE: Mass Flop

Trend setter.

[Mass Flop]

oh I forgot what desp did thought it was reversed

[Cerberus v666]

I'm still fond of a mass claim, fyi all. :p

[Elbirn]

*headdesk*

No one told fb to desperado anyone
He was told to give a desperado to someone else

...was he told "give a desperado to LH"?, and he presumably submitted "Desperado learned hand"? Did anyone tell him to give a desperado to anyone else, like RP maybe? Or dav?

Like we don't even have confirmation of what he did and we have to just fucking assume lh is town and everything went according to plan and I'm going to hurt people if we get to the end of this and LH was scum after all

Fucking firebringer you fuck
Fucking dram hosting a bastard game as non-bastard
Fucking learned Hand being two people I actually quite admire, doing fuck all
Fucking
Fuck

Fuck

You are a troll mod.

I'm just gonna note that while this probably shouldn't have been said and is too game related, this sure hints at things not going to plan

[Cerberus v666]

*headdesk*

No one told fb to desperado anyone
He was told to give a desperado to someone else

...was he told "give a desperado to LH"?, and he presumably submitted "Desperado learned hand"? Did anyone tell him to give a desperado to anyone else, like RP maybe? Or dav?

Like we don't even have confirmation of what he did and we have to just fucking assume lh is town and everything went according to plan and I'm going to hurt people if we get to the end of this and LH was scum after all

Fucking firebringer you fuck
Fucking dram hosting a bastard game as non-bastard

Fucking learned Hand being two people I actually quite admire, doing fuck all

Fucking
Fuck

Fuck

You are a troll mod.

I'm just gonna note that while this probably shouldn't have been said and is too game related, this sure hints at things not going to plan

[Elbirn]

What's your point?

I like titus. I like drixx. They're smartypants. Usually.

In this game I generally feel like they lost their minds and I haven't liked a single thing they've done.

[Cerberus v666]

I agree with that statement. 100%. All I've seen them do is argue with RP, and it's disappointing.

[RolePlay25]

Since third parties are part of the game, would their nature be suggested by their role flip? Like "XXXXX XXXXXX Serial Killer" or "XXXXXXXX XXXXX Survivor"?

I am super confused by your question

For instance, suppose a player had a win condition "be alive when another faction has achieved their win condition". Would they be guaranteed to have the word "Survivor" in their role, so they would flip something like "Bulletproof Survivor" (if they were bulletproof)?

[RolePlay25]

I'm asking because that's what I'd expect if this were normal formatting, but I can't know if the third party roles would follow that format in this game.

[RolePlay25]

So, EAPS clear on zmuffin is null. Cool. Don't particularly mind lynching him then. I feel like I could probably solve the game at this point if I had the time to dive into the absurd amount of content so far.

Oh good. That's the only point I wanted to make. Scum lie (and yes, third parties are scum until there is an extreme demonstration otherwise).

Remove that, and well... yeah.

[Cerberus v666]

Yeah, I waa just thinking of him as a regular survivor, not the weird has motive to win with a particular faction hybrid thing he claimed to be..that made it unlikely that he would actually protect scum rather than just letting us lynch them.

I do feel that you are a bit emotionally invested though. First you went after LH, who you argued with a bunch and insulted and shit. And now that it seems probable that LH is town, you go after zmuffin first, the other person who you argued with and insulted a bunch. :/

[RolePlay25]

So, EAPS clear on zmuffin is null. Cool. Don't particularly mind lynching him then. I feel like I could probably solve the game at this point if I had the time to dive into the absurd amount of content so far.

I probably am a little emotionally invested. That being said, I put a lot more weight in "picking a fight with me" as a scumtell when I'm driving a wagon on scum.
It's also based on cold, hard math. Five players were not voting Itlepip day 1 (six if we count Dave): Itlepip, Learned Hand, KlingonCelt, zMuffinman, Mass Flop

Non-confirmed players in that list are zmuffin and Mass Flop. I said I wanted to take a long, hard look at the players not voting Itle or the late voters on Day 2. You had a guilty, that's pretty awesome. But this is basically Day 2, take 2.

And if EAP gained the win condition of town, and wasn't a survivor.

I'd tentatively be interested in a mass claim. If we assume you're semi-confirmed town (seems really likely, when all is said and done) then we have 4 confirmed town, which makes the math super easy. Elbirn is pretty confirmable, especially if we get a scum lynch, since they can't submit kill+action, so that gives us basically 1-2 confirms until guaranteed town win. I'm going to discuss it with my mason buddy, but if they're in favor then I'm strongly for it.

[RolePlay25]

ugh had a thought there. If EAP gained the win condition of town, not survivor, then his play day 2 was really odd. I dunno, I've seen town do some derpy shit (nevermind pseudo-town/scum third party nonsense), and it's entirely possible he's raging at me in the dead thread, but I just don't trust how he claimed in the least.

I mean fuck, yeah, it's probably only null, but gods it was shitty.