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Post Post #3650 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:40 am

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In post 3631, Netherspite wrote:
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Going to sleep so I'll explain it a bit more and let it to your decision.
If you will use random.org to choose a number 1-2 and use that as your target (1 = me, 2 = Marquis or vice versa, just decide before rolling), scum will have the following options:
a) shoot DS: in this case they'll have 50% chance of no kill, allowing us to lynch 2 more players and implode one, thus leaving us with 3 out of 4 attempts to find the scum. (FB will survive until LyLo because next night scum will have to shoot one of DS and me again)
b) shoot me: in this case they're killing suboptimal easily mislynchable target
c) shoot someone else: in this case we're getting 1 more cop result with 50% chance which is bad for them as well.
Most likely they'll choose (b).
The only problem with this plan is if DS is scum but I find it really unlikely.l


Doesn't this lead to a potential worst case scenario?

DS targets Marquis
Scum kill Firebringer

In this scenario, you don't have any results to show for it, our confirmed town vig is dead, and town is in trouble.

And sure, the upside is great, but it's just WIFOM in circles. If scum outguess DS, they get a huge advantage. If not, then we win.

I think it's a lot safer to tell DS to just target you, force the scum to kill him, and carry our Machinist into tomorrow.
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Post Post #3651 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:32 am

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What's Marquis, btw?
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Post Post #3652 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:32 am

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Is he that rolestopper emitter?
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Post Post #3653 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:43 am

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[quote="In post 3652, DiamondSentinel"]Is he that rolestopper emitter?[/quote

Yes.
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Post Post #3654 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:27 am

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Interesting...
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Post Post #3655 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:27 am

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Post Post #3656 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:43 am

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I loved those comics growing up and only just now realized the name reference.
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Post Post #3657 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:44 am

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In post 3656, Marquis wrote:I loved those comics growing up and only just now realized the name reference.


You should play Witness. It's set in that world/style and it's a dope game.
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Post Post #3658 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:01 pm

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Why am I still alive?

I am not imploding anyone. Scum probably thinks they can make me implode someone or some shit.
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

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Post Post #3659 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:00 pm

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I agree no implosions.

LLD, can you answer my questions please? I am trying to get off confbias island but I need an assist.
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Post Post #3660 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:05 pm

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In post 3659, Stairway to the Abyss wrote:I agree no implosions.

LLD, can you answer my questions please? I am trying to get off confbias island but I need an assist.


Er, sorry, which question was this?
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Post Post #3661 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:23 pm

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In post 3638, Stairway to the Abyss wrote:@LLD, Talk to me about DS's hammer yesterday please.

In post 3641, Stairway to the Abyss wrote::shifty: SDB has a cop guilty. Both SDB and Titus are not likely to be town. Implode Titus today. Wtf?

In post 3644, Stairway to the Abyss wrote:LLD can you talk to me about how Marquis's last post has any sort of town motivation?

In post 3659, Stairway to the Abyss wrote:I agree no implosions.

LLD, can you answer my questions please? I am trying to get off confbias island but I need an assist.
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Post Post #3662 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:48 pm

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DS' hammer seemed whatever? The day had stagnated, no one was talking about anything and the lynch was basically all but done.

Plus, I'm p. sure DS is town now, so.

Marquis I think has the same logic DS has, that he wants to use the vig liberally to kill people he thinks are scummy but isn't realizing the price we'll all pay if he's wrong.
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Post Post #3663 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:42 pm

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oh i realize it

i'm just in a position where i know i can be at most 1/3 wrong, which isn't autoloss
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Post Post #3664 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:22 pm

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In post 3650, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Doesn't this lead to a potential worst case scenario?

DS targets Marquis
Scum kill Firebringer

In this scenario, you don't have any results to show for it, our confirmed town vig is dead, and town is in trouble.


Yes, you're right, worse case scenario is terrible. Would scum risk letting us to investigate someone with 50% chance though?
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Post Post #3665 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:09 pm

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In post 3664, Netherspite wrote:
In post 3650, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Doesn't this lead to a potential worst case scenario?

DS targets Marquis
Scum kill Firebringer

In this scenario, you don't have any results to show for it, our confirmed town vig is dead, and town is in trouble.


Yes, you're right, worse case scenario is terrible. Would scum risk letting us to investigate someone with 50% chance though?


Maybe? It's a 50/50 no matter how you look at it right?

I think the safe road is the way to do this.
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Post Post #3666 (ISO) » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:25 pm

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I agree on that.
Let's play safe.
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Post Post #3667 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:00 am

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I vote we don't play it safe. Go big or go home, I say.
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Post Post #3668 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:22 am

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In post 3667, DiamondSentinel wrote:I vote we don't play it safe. Go big o 5 lr go home, I say.


We are already in a winning position.

From your perspective, we have 1 scum caught, and 1 scum left to catch with a mislynch to work with, and scum have to leave Firebringer alive.

Which means we'll have so may advantages it hurts.

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Post Post #3669 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:39 am

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Do you type out your quotes by hand, LLD? Because that quote looks really weird.

Anyways, I mostly just want to get it over with because scum has lost and they know it. At this point, it's just bookkeeping. No reason to drag it out.
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Post Post #3670 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:51 am

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In post 3669, DiamondSentinel wrote:Do you type out your quotes by hand, LLD? Because that quote looks really weird.

Anyways, I mostly just want to get it over with because scum has lost and they know it. At this point, it's just bookkeeping. No reason to drag it out.


I... don't know what happened to it?

Genuinely, I just hit the quote button and typed my message after and submitted...

Fuck now I'm concerned, this shit always makes me worry about potential dissociative episodes...
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Post Post #3671 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:22 am

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LLD, if you're using laptop instead of normal PC it's possible by accidentally clicking with touchpad to some place in the quoted text while typing.
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Post Post #3672 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:26 am

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In post 3671, Netherspite wrote:LLD, if you're using laptop instead of normal PC it's possible by accidentally clicking with touchpad to some place in the quoted text while typing.


That's entirely possible. Thanks. :)
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Post Post #3673 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:52 am

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In post 3668, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3667, DiamondSentinel wrote:I vote we don't play it safe. Go big
o 5 lr
go home, I say.


We are already in a winning position.

From your perspective, we have 1 scum caught, and 1 scum left to catch with a mislynch to work with, and scum have to leave Firebringer alive.

Which means we'll have so may advantages it hurts.

Why do this?

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Post Post #3674 (ISO) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:01 am

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I understood that............
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