Micro 568 - Coordination Mafia (Game over)

[BROseidon]

Okay, Cow confirms NM. NM is conftown.

[TheCow]

Last mafia is probs either Kaboose or PC. I'll reread when I'm not feeling lazy, though.

[BROseidon]

I want PC to claim before Kaboose.

PC->Kaboose->Accountant is my preferred order at this point.

[Not_Mafia]

I don't see how tracker makes sense in this set-up, how does it interact with scum who submits a name that doesn't result in a kill, how is it determined who makes the kill?

However he is right I have not used my action

[BROseidon]

I'd assume the track would just go to the name that was submitted.

[BROseidon]

The fact that he knew that you didn't use your BG action either night leads me to believe that he's telling the truth.

[BROseidon]

And a scum tracker in this setup seems less likely than a town tracker.

[Not_Mafia]

Then PC I guess

[TheCow]

Agreed, as far as the claim order goes.

Accountant is very probably town, considering his actions on both wagons. BROseidon is 99% town for the same reasons, but to a greater extent.

Its worth noting that Ricastle was confirmed town after D1.

[Kaboose]

Okay, Cow confirms NM. NM is conftown.

But, Bro, how do we know Cow is town?

[Kaboose]

NM - Bodyguard

BRO - VT

Cow - Tracker

PC - ???

kaboose - ???

accountant - ???

[BROseidon]

Okay, Cow confirms NM. NM is conftown.

But, Bro, how do we know Cow is town?

We don't!

That said, claiming that the claimed bodyguard didn't visit anyone N1 and N2 would be pretty ballsy for a non-tracker, so that part of the claim checks out.

[BROseidon]

That said, I don't really think scum would have a tracker in this setup.

[TheCow]

DrDolittle is L1 btw

, also I don't think scum named partners N1, maybe they did but if you think about it. They could name themselves. For instance if I was scum I could name Kaboose as my vote for NK. Then my partner could name his partner. And if he did I am dead.

So I think scum would have stayed away from their names and their partners names out of fear of another scum death. So I'm with you Bro.

Also if you look through Trivium's ISO, he names:

Kaboose(RVS vote, and scum read, and question), Accountant(Asks a question), Political Clout(Scum reads), BROseidon(Scum reads), DrDolittle(Defends).

He doesn't name:

Ricastle, Not_Mafia, The Cow.

So the fact he defended DrDolittle so early on leads me to wanting Dolittle lynched today.

The other scum will be in his unnamed pile. Ricastle being named by scum leans me town on him.

Scum:
Dolittle

Other scum within:
TheCow, and Not_Mafia

Town Pile
Accountant(He was scum read by flipped scum and I don't think there would have been bussing at that time.. He was also named).
Political Clout(Was scum read by flipped scum and I don't think there would have been bussing at that time.)
BROseidon(Was scum read by flipped scum and I don't think there would have been bussing at that time.)
Ricastle(Was named)

This post makes me think Kaboose is the last scum (among other things).

[BROseidon]

I would be sad if my initial read of Kaboose was wrong.

[BROseidon]

I kind of think scum tried to bus PC and fucked up.

[TheCow]

I kind of think scum tried to bus PC and fucked up.

D1 or D2?

[TheCow]

D1, obviously. I'll look into that now.

[TheCow]

Preface: my conclusion changes as I write this post since I was doing research as I wrote. There're some contradictions because I'm to lazy to edit out the arguments posed in favor of my original conclusion as opposed to my ultimate conclusion.

Dolittle being vote two on PC bothers me.

Vote Count

Political Clout (3): Not_Mafia, DrDolittle, Ricastle
Trivium (3): BROseidon, Accountant, TheCow

DrDolittle (1): Kaboose
Kaboose (1): Trivium

Not voting (1): Political Clout

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-01-29 15:00:00).

Vote Count

Trivium (4): BROseidon, Accountant, TheCow, Ricastle

Political Clout (2): Not_Mafia, DrDolittle
DrDolittle (1): Kaboose
Kaboose (1): Trivium

Not voting (1): Political Clout

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-01-29 15:00:00).

After the Trivium flip, assuming PC is town, Ricastle becomes confirmed town right here, town PoV. If PC were scum, Ricastle isn't confirmed town from his scum->town PoV because he knows he went from one scum wagon to another

unless

PC is/was doing VC analysis.

Let's see which names have been sent in, presented in random order:

Accountant
Ricastle

The names are not identical, no night kill has happened Night 1.

I think the person who attempted to kill Ricastle was the same twice in a row. If that assumption is true, DoLittle attempted to kill Accountant.

Seeing that Ricastle broke the PC wagon, why would PC attempt to kill Ricastle?

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Ricastle went from Trivium to PC because of a slip from Trivium's part (which was debatebly not a slip because of a "hint" from the mod in #50.) Ricastle jumped at 55. Ricastle switched back to Trivium at #99, breaking the wagon and becoming confirmed town.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p7576737
Read from here and draw your own conclusions. Kaboose goes onto Dolittle for sheeping onto PC. While our town Ricastle and Accountant begin pushing onto PC. At #53, Trivium offers a weak defense of Dolittle against Kaboose. A little later, Trivium offers a Kaboose+Bro scumteam, defending PC.

Upshot: PC is scum.

[TheCow]

And to resolve my issue of the attacks, I could actually see PC attempting to attack accountant->Ricastle based on Ricastle's initial vote D2, so I was probably just straight up wrong there.

[Kaboose]

I'm a bodyguard, I'll be protecting Accountant tonight, if it comes to that

I'm tracker. Watched NM both nights. Didn't visit either.

Cow claims after NM mentions he was using his ability tonight.

The fact that he knew that you didn't use your BG action either night leads me to believe that he's telling the truth.

So this really doesn't mean that much. He had the info needed to make a claim.

His claim, though, is a role and what he did. So I like when people do that because it's multiple spots to be lying and the more you lie the more risks you take.

[Kaboose]

I would be sad if my initial read of Kaboose was wrong.

As long as your initial read on me was a town read, you're not going to be sad. Or wrong.

[Kaboose]

DrDolittle is L1 btw

, also I don't think scum named partners N1, maybe they did but if you think about it. They could name themselves. For instance if I was scum I could name Kaboose as my vote for NK. Then my partner could name his partner. And if he did I am dead.

So I think scum would have stayed away from their names and their partners names out of fear of another scum death. So I'm with you Bro.

Also if you look through Trivium's ISO, he names:

Kaboose(RVS vote, and scum read, and question), Accountant(Asks a question), Political Clout(Scum reads), BROseidon(Scum reads), DrDolittle(Defends).

He doesn't name:

Ricastle, Not_Mafia, The Cow.

So the fact he defended DrDolittle so early on leads me to wanting Dolittle lynched today.

The other scum will be in his unnamed pile. Ricastle being named by scum leans me town on him.

Scum:
Dolittle

Other scum within:
TheCow, and Not_Mafia

Town Pile
Accountant(He was scum read by flipped scum and I don't think there would have been bussing at that time.. He was also named).
Political Clout(Was scum read by flipped scum and I don't think there would have been bussing at that time.)
BROseidon(Was scum read by flipped scum and I don't think there would have been bussing at that time.)
Ricastle(Was named)

This post makes me think Kaboose is the last scum (among other things).

Why?

[Not_Mafia]

I'm a bodyguard, I'll be protecting Accountant tonight, if it comes to that

I'm tracker. Watched NM both nights. Didn't visit either.

Cow claims after NM mentions he was using his ability tonight.

The fact that he knew that you didn't use your BG action either night leads me to believe that he's telling the truth.

So this really doesn't mean that much. He had the info needed to make a claim.

His claim, though, is a role and what he did. So I like when people do that because it's multiple spots to be lying and the more you lie the more risks you take.

I never said I was one shot

[Kaboose]

Okay?