Open 620: Duck Duck Goose Game Over, Mafia Victory

[droog]

No, see this isn't going to be happening because you're trying to lynch my townreads.
I'm not okay with my townreads being lynched.
I'm not positive if you're scum or not but continue to try to lynch my townreads and you will be lynched.

Spoiler:

seriously except that you townread my scumreads
im not sure what the rest of your reads are

my preferences are newbie and math
but if you have scumreads elsewhere id like to hear them

[droog]

Dude Mathilda isn't scummy and I don't understand the wagon whatsoever.

Dude she's spent the entire day trying to milk towncred for not lynching Lowell. Then she attacks egg townreadng droog, but then doesn't vote either until you subtly start hinting that she should vote. It may not be confScum, but it certainly isn't worthy of a townread. I actually really like droog or whoever's point about you coaching mathilda. I think it actually possible that Mathilda flips town here, but you seriously need to justify like everything you've done today.

-pip

i agree with all of this
but want to add one thig
i had to push and prod math to
give specifics on who she thought ws scum
on loweell's wagon

before i asked she kept repeating
"theres gotta be scum there"
(something id probably agree)
without naming names

the fact that she needed her scumread
to push her into giving her scumreads
is a problem

[droog]

and rc
if youre serious about math being town

id like you to talk about some of the above
instead of saying you think she's obv
because shes notobv

[Mathilda]

@Pip. Trying to milk towncred for not lynching Lowell? RF3 deserves the towncred. I posted that I was prepared to hammer Lowell at one point. My whole point about the Lowell wagon is that it made you and Droog look scummy and that's just been glossed over. Now you're trying to to bulldoze another mislynch and you and Droog has been preparing for future mislynches after that.

[Mathilda]

Droog, you may have been asking me for specifics about who I thought was scum on the lynch wagon but you did not acknowledge the point that I was making. That it is very unlikely that there wouldn't be scum on that wagon, especially in this game where it is difficult to get any lynch whatsoever.

But again, I am repeating myself with you. I have said this several times already.

[droog]

My whole point about the Lowell wagon is that it made you and Droog look scummy

this seems different from what you said before
before you said that there had to be scum on the wagon
and implied it was me and spip

now you're saying that the way we were on the wagon itself
looks scummy

please explain

[droog]

well, 'implied' is a weasley word
ill give you that much credit

[droog]

but you did not acknowledge the point that I was making.

which point
i think ive been very honest about your content

[Something Pip]

Lol Mathilda I just think it's so funny how you think we care that you "we're prepared to hammer Lowell". Obviously, though, the towncred for being off the wagon goes to the slot that ACTUALLY hammered. Now that makes sense.
At this point it's clear that you purposely stayed off the Lowell wagon so that you could call people scummy just for pushing it without worrying about accusations of hypocrisy. You did nothing to push any other lynch (I mistook this for trying to get a no-lynch to save your partner, when in fact it was whiteknighting). As I have heard, sometimes it's more suspicious to be OFF a wagon if you have no reason to be off than to be on a wagon, even if it's on town.
If anyone wants to watch Mathilda flail a bit more, I won't deny you that pleasure, but this is by far where I feel most comfortable lynching today. RF3 tomorrow, maybe.
-the smart head

[Mathilda]

My whole point about the Lowell wagon is that it made you and Droog look scummy

this seems different from what you said before
before you said that there had to be scum on the wagon
and implied it was me and spip

now you're saying that the way we were on the wagon itself
looks scummy

please explain

It made you and Pip look scummy by denying the possibility of there being scum on it.

How many times do I have to repeat myself?

[Mathilda]

At this point it's clear that you purposely stayed off the Lowell wagon so that you could call people scummy just for pushing it without worrying about accusations of hypocrisy.

Already countered this point several times now. This game isn't the kind of game where scum can sit back and let town death tunnel each other. It's been to quiet and town have been too lethargic. Staying off the wagon only works when you can be sure that the wagon is going to happen. People were accusing me of causing a no-lynch.

And I note your Lols and derogative tone, repeated use of the word flail. Definitely a sign that you're trying to paint a picture rather than properly debate. Typical scum tactic.

[RadiantCowbells]

Scum are trying hard, town besides myself and Mathilda are just lurksaucing.

Vote with me for town win.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not positive that Droog is scum, he could be poorly playing townie.

SP and Egg have to go.

[itlepip]

but you did not acknowledge the point that I was making.

which point
i think ive been very honest about your content

Hey, you wanna join my JF3 wagon?

[RadiantCowbells]

3 more votes for the first scum flip of the game.

[itlepip]

3 more votes for the first scum flip of the game.

Do you want to join my JR3 wagon? They are pretty confScum right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I want you to trust me and lynch Egg if you are in fact town.

[Mathilda]

To the scum team, who are you going to get to hammer me then? You don't have the votes because Burning Earth and Scorpious are absent and you've already admitted that you want to lynch Newbie so you're not exactly inviting her to make sure that she's next in line. Droog has already mentioned Karnage as someone who should be examined in more detail (read wagoned)

If RF3, me and Newbie were a scum team then we certainly wouldn't be making ourselves so opposed to the majority of opinion here and daring to question lynch wagons. It would just take one of us to be lynched and flip scum for the others to be lynched as well.

Even if there is no lynch then tonight you'll have to target a potential PGO, either someone who supports you or kill one of us and show that your reads are wrong.

You've already started trying to shift suspicion onto RF3 (earlier than you would have wanted). Are you going to wait for replacements for Burning Earth and Scorpious or are you going to try backtracking now?

[itlepip]

If RF3, me and Newbie were a scum team then we certainly wouldn't be making ourselves so opposed to the majority of opinion here and daring to question lynch wagons. It would just take one of us to be lynched and flip scum for the others to be lynched as well.

Except you can because those people are afk so us town doesn't have enough votes to lynch you guys. Also why can you guys not hard align with each other, but me and droog can?

Try not to be hypocritical please, and ask in your scum PT if you can get RC to actually make a valid post, he's making this game boring.

[Mathilda]

itlepip, you and Droog are hiding within a majority. Big difference. That was why I said "certainly wouldn't be making ourselves so opposed to the majority of opinion here and daring to question lynch wagons"

[itlepip]

Guess what town is, a majority, guess what scum is, a minority, how the f is this a point

Also for the Lowell lynch, both JF3 and Newbie were on that wagon and you stated intent on that wagon.

[RadiantCowbells]

JF3 = me right?

[itlepip]

yep, your other heads.

[MrTrow]

I've said my piece

Am i to take this to mean you have no intent what so ever to answer:

Agreed. People are just repeating the same arguments and ignoring any responses as if they were never made. Trow and Droog are guilty of this.

Care to back this up?
What did i ignore, what response did you make that i pretended weren't there?

Also, i would like to hear your thoughts on RF3's attempts to keep you from presenting those 2 cases.

I was sitting on the sidelines because Taly and Farrar disagreed with all my reads.

Lowell flipped town. I'm calling the shots now.

Let me get this straight:
You have 2 mod-confirmed townies telling you, you are wrong.
And still you consider, 'not blindly following your lead' a lynch-worthy offence?

Please explain.

While you're at it, could you get around to explaining why, you were actively preventing me from getting a read on mathilda?

Scum are trying hard, town besides myself and Mathilda are just lurksaucing.

Vote

with

me for town win.

FTFY:
VOTE: RF3

[itlepip]

Scum are trying hard, town besides myself and Mathilda are just lurksaucing.

Vote with me for town win.

Like RC the only reason I got off the Mathilda is that the way you have been defending Mathilda is so bad to almost be spewing.