Blitz 21 - Hope plus One ―kibou― [End]

[Wisdom]

You're not town.

[Titus]

Titus stop bullying me.

How am I bullying you?

[Ankamius]

votecount 1.15

Firebringer (5) - PhantomCobalt, Expedience, Antihero, OceanWind, Ranger
Sakura Hana (5) - Wisdom, hiplop, Ankamius, Firebringer, Trebuchet MS

PhantomCobalt (1) - Scatterplot
Expedience (1) - Sakura Hana
Wisdom (1) - Mad King Ashnard

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is January 24, 2:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2016-01-24 02:00:00).

Plotinus head of Scatterplot is V/LA until January 24.

votecount 2.4

Titus (5) - Wisdom, Ankamius, Antihero, Spiffeh, Mad King Ashnard

Wisdom (1) - Titus
Ankamius (1) - Ranger
Spiffeh (1) - Expedience
Scatterplot (1) - hiplop

Not voting (3) - PhantomCobalt, Gorkington, Scatterplot

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is January 29, 17:40 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2016-01-29 17:40:00).

Umm hello?

Like hell please people wake up and see this is a scum driven wagon and help me sort my reads please.

Of the three slots that you're indicating are part of both wagons, two of them were on KTthecreeper back near the beginning of the game the entire time that the talah wagon was in full force. How does this fit in your theory?

[Titus]

votecount 1.9

Firebringer (5) - Ranger, Wisdom, PhantomCobalt, Scatterplot, Trebuchet MS
talah (5) - hiplop, Mad King Ashnard, Antihero, Sakura Hana, Ankamius

Scatterplot (2) - Expedience, Firebringer
Mad King Ashnard (1) - talah

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is January 24, 2:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2016-01-24 02:00:00).

Plotinus head of Scatterplot is V/LA until January 24.

votecount 1.10

Firebringer (4) - Ranger, PhantomCobalt, Trebuchet MS, Expedience
OceanWind (4) - hiplop, Antihero, Sakura Hana, Ankamius

Expedience (2) - Mad King Ashnard, Scatterplot
Scatterplot (1) - Firebringer
Mad King Ashnard (1) - OceanWind
Ankamius (1) - Wisdom

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is January 24, 2:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2016-01-24 02:00:00).

Plotinus head of Scatterplot is V/LA until January 24.

votecount 1.11

Firebringer (5) - Ranger, PhantomCobalt, Trebuchet MS, Expedience, Antihero

OceanWind (2) - hiplop, Sakura Hana
Expedience (2) - Mad King Ashnard, Scatterplot
Scatterplot (2) - Firebringer, OceanWind
Ankamius (1) - Wisdom
PhantomCobalt (1) - Ankamius

Not voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is January 24, 2:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2016-01-24 02:00:00).

Plotinus head of Scatterplot is V/LA until January 24.

That's not what I see.

Expedience made a post that was regarded as terrible, so he drew voters from both wagons (checked to see details).

Wisdom then takes the points as an excuse to stop voting Firebringer and goes to Ank, not Expedience.

Wisdom is then back on Expedience later in the bussing sweet spot or scum sneak on spot.

The Talah early wagon had one name on it.

Ktcreeper wagon sprung up as a counter to Scatterplot, not Talah. Of that, Wisdom is early but Spiffeh is in the warning bus zone.

[Antihero]

phantom is not lynchbait and whoever said that should slap themselves in the face

[Antihero]

where is anti. i need someone to hold my hand.

are you caught up yet?

[PhantomCobalt]

phantom is not lynchbait and whoever said that should slap themselves in the face

Thank you, I appreciate it.

[PhantomCobalt]

I'm neutral on the Titus wagon because I find it really hard to read her mhmmhm

[Wisdom]

She was Sakura.

[PhantomCobalt]

She was Sakura.

I know

[Wisdom]

Then you didn't have any read on Sakura either?

[PhantomCobalt]

Then you didn't have any read on Sakura either?

Yup, town lean is stretching it

[Titus]

phantom is not lynchbait and whoever said that should slap themselves in the face

I said it. I see him get lynched D1 all the time.

The fact no one has tried to jump on him puzzles me.

[Ranger]

Wisdom, please, let go of this. You're wrong.

FTFY.

titus is literally playing exactly the same as she was in mafiaception.

Meh. I don't care about Titus at all.

But if you lynch her you're still lynching town because she's in the Sakura slot.
And we'll lose our perfect game.
We could get a perfect, PERFECT game, no town death

at all

, with the right doc protect and a scum lynch.
Thus, why I push for an Ankamius lynch.

[Ranger]

1590 is good posting from Scatterplot.

But if this flips town we're doing things my way tomorrow.
VOTE: Titus

No.

WHEN Titus flips town,

you freakin'

OWE

me

.
Ankamius lynch, then Expedience after that, for ruining the perfect game we COULD have had if you LISTENED TO ME.

[Ranger]

I think that some flips would help me understand them.

Yes some town flips would help prove I was right, but wouldn't you rather have scum dead and a perfect game to go with it?

[Ranger]

Ankamius has been going very blatantly against the grain all game with his reads in a way that takes guts as scum to do, because it's easy to be wrong about your reads if the entire town is being wrong about their reads but when you're doing it in a way that makes you stand out it is harder to do as scum.

This is literally the opposite of how I see it? He's been going with the flow ridiculously strongly. He's taking stances that are easy, convenient, and take no pushing.

Seriously, look at his play. Where does he push a read strongly? Where does he try to strongly dismantle a wagon he thinks is on town? Where does he try to get a wagon going on a player he actually thinks is scum? These factors are entirely absent. He'll make a comment, "I think these players are both town", and then

not do anything about it

. That lack of follow-through shows a lack of sincerity and a lack of care.

He is scum.

[Wisdom]

No, he isn't.

[Ranger]

This is all...just...so...PAINFUL to read.
Guys.
GUYS.
You're fighting each other.
"Spiffeh must be scum".
"Ashnard must be scum."
"Wisdom must be scum."
"Titus must be scum."

NONE OF YOU ARE.

The

actual

scum are mostly lurking and staying on the sidelines, letting you fight it out and not actually pushing.
All of you are pushing each other.
All of you are being stubborn idiots.
All of you are being very opinionated about each other, focusing on all the wrong things, trivial little details about one another that aren't important.
Ignoring big obvious things like how Ankamius has done nothing the entire game.
Ignoring big obvious things like how Expedience has

half the posts of anyone else in the game

, a trait I KNOW Expedience is NOT known for, lurking and active lurking.

You are going to look back at this.
And you are going to ask yourself what you were thinking.
Why you let obvscum live to focus on a player who in hindsight was obvtown.

Stop.
Please.

And just lynch Ankamius.

[Wisdom]

You're scumreading a fucking playstyle. Stop.

[Ranger]

Scum-scum wagons.

...Were Expedience vs. Firebringer.
Not Firebringer vs. Sakura Hana.

Firebringer tried to take Sakura Hana down.

When he realized he was getting lynched anyway, he self-hammered, framing Sakura Hana.

[Ranger]

You're townreading a fucking playstyle. Stop.

FTFY.

Trebuchet said it himself: Ankamius as town would do something.
This game, he has not.

No push, nothing.

[Wisdom]

Goddamn. Will you shut up when Titus flips scum?

[Ankamius]

Where does he push a read strongly?

I was constantly doing that until the way I was seeing the game vastly shifted away from the way everyone else saw it as.

Where does he try to strongly dismantle a wagon he thinks is on town?

I basically never do this regardless of alignment unless I'm scumreading the wagon itself, not townreading the person the wagon is on.

Where does he try to get a wagon going on a player he actually thinks is scum?

I rarely ever do this unless I know I have a lot of influence on the game state.

These factors are entirely absent. He'll make a comment, "I think these players are both town", and then

not do anything about it

. That lack of follow-through shows a lack of sincerity and a lack of care.

That's indicative of not caring. So what.

He is scum.

cool

You're townreading a fucking playstyle. Stop.

FTFY.

Trebuchet said it himself: Ankamius as town would do something.
This game, he has not.

No push, nothing.

Stop taking things so literally. Activity is literally the most worthless metric anyone can use to read me because I have every level of activity in the book as both alignments.

[Ankamius]

Also, my favorite part about #1746 is that the same person that claimed I do things as town is still saying that I'm obvtown.