Open 624 Fire and Ice - Fire Mafia Wins

[droog]

testing a theory
VOTE: viva

[Masquerade]

@Aristo: Obviously there's something in my responses that you don't like, because you're still scumreading me. Can you tell me what it is?
Your vote is still on Beeboy, you have him high up on your townlist, why haven't you removed your vote?
How did you get to a townread on Cobalting?

[beeboy]

Your vote is still on Beeboy, you have him high up on your townlist, why haven't you removed your vote?

It doesn't mean anything since I am at L-6 lol

[Shinobi]

testing a theory
VOTE: viva

What theory, exactly?

[droog]

the one i havent explained

[Shinobi]

Are you intending to get to that or what's the point, exactly?

[beeboy]

Are you intending to get to that or what's the point, exactly?

Wouldn't that ruin the experiment?

[Masquerade]

It doesn't mean anything since I am at L-6 lol

Probably yeah, why did you answer that for Aristo?

[beeboy]

Probably yeah, why did you answer that for Aristo?

Because it was an obvious answer.

[Masquerade]

So Shinobi I was just going through your iso to remind myself where you stand on Viva and I couldn't find it. I couldn't find any kind of stance actually, except thinking I'm scum. Do you have reads on other players?

[Viva La Gloria]

My only real scumlean is viva; possibly cobalting as well. Still thinking about Shinobi and droog, and waiting on ika and BEF.

Explain why I'm a scumlean.

[Viva La Gloria]

testing a theory
VOTE: viva

Reasons?

[Masquerade]

Because it was an obvious answer.

So I didn't check the vc when I asked that. It's still a legitimate question, and hardly my only one.

[Viva La Gloria]

VOTE: Supreme Overlord

Currently the worst vote on me, but further response from the other voters may change this.

[Viva La Gloria]

Shinobi, you didn't vote me despite the fact that I was pushing on you.

Why?

[Shinobi]

Are you intending to get to that or what's the point, exactly?

Wouldn't that ruin the experiment?

-.-

Shinobi, you didn't vote me despite the fact that I was pushing on you.

Why?

I don't think you're scum.

[Shinobi]

So Shinobi I was just going through your iso to remind myself where you stand on Viva and I couldn't find it. I couldn't find any kind of stance actually, except thinking I'm scum. Do you have reads on other players?

One or two - I'm still working on them and will post them as I go.

[Viva La Gloria]

VOTE: Cobalting

Ranger's reads list still needs to be explained actually.
I don't trust the votes on me at all though, given that little has been said by anyone besides SS to explain a vote on me and his case is awful.
If you're scumreading me, explain why.

[texcat]

Day 1, Votecount 5

Cobalting

(4): SnarkySnowman, TheShadow, Masquerade, Viva La Gloria

Viva La Gloria

(3): Something_Smart, Supreme Overlord, droog

Masquerade

(1): Shinobi

ika

(1): Cobalting

Something_Smart

(1): beeboy

beeboy

(1): Aristophanes

Not Voting (2):

ika, BrightEyedFish

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or to no lynch.

Deadline

: Monday, February 8, 2016 9:00 am (Texas time)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2016-02-08 09:00:00)

[Aristophanes]

This is a reminder to self to reread everything at some point tomorrow to refine my reads and answer stuff.

Also, didn't realize my vote was still there or I'd have moved it.
UNVOTE:

[beeboy]

-.-

This game is getting boring and I am hoping Droog can make it more interesting.

[droog]

poll time

everyone
give your reads on the top two wagons
asap

[Supreme Overlord]

Answer to poll in lieu of TL;DR:
Viva I'm voting; his votes have no substance. There's something odd about his reaction to the wagon, too; though I can't quite pin it down. It's seems like he's only just now reacting to it - I thought he'd accepted my vote as 'nothing to worry about'; now it's the worst vote on the wagon. L-4 also seems a bit early to be worried to the extent of 'I don't trust the votes on me at all'.
Cobalting I was reading as townish; seemed pretty transparent. Last couple of posts have annoyed me, though (though they still could potentially be explained away) - I don't know what meta they were referring to, and the refusal/inability to explain reads is not helpful. Pending.

Then what are your reads, PC? I don't know what your policy is regarding acting as different heads, but if you can't speak for Ranger you should be able to speak for yourself.

I mean, he said he would get back to you and their discussion may either change a read or may lead to some reasons emerging on the thread. What's wrong with checking where your other head's at with their thinking?

Nothing in principle. But we're getting nothing from Ranger, and PC can't explain Ranger's reads, so I was hoping to get

something

from that slot.

scum arent just trying to look townie but also scumhunt
so the best way for town to get noted
is not just to scumhunt
its hard to put into words what im feeling

I misinterpreted what you said; I thought you meant

scum

are trying to put forward a townie vibe. But ... aren't they? Everyone is scumhunting legitimately, sure. But scum don't want to be nightkilled, and town want to ... appear town - so isn't it all kind of the same?

testing a theory
VOTE: viva

What theory, exactly?

FWIW, I'm willing to give droog the benefit of the doubt here, at least for a bit (given it's to 'test a theory' and not just presented without reason). After the fact though, I would like a full explanation of what the theory was and how voting Viva tested it.

Because it was an obvious answer.

So I didn't check the vc when I asked that. It's still a legitimate question, and hardly my only one.

What are you getting at here? You asked the questions of Aristo, beeboy answered the 'obvious' one, so there's still a couple for Aristo to answer for himself, right?

VOTE: Supreme Overlord

Currently the worst vote on me, but further response from the other voters may change this.

Could you elaborate on how you came to the conclusion that mine was the 'worst vote' on you? (You didn't seem to think so at the time.)

VOTE: Cobalting

Was I supposed to be pressured by your vote? Because I saw it, noted it as something to respond to, kept scrolling, and realised that it didn't actually matter. What between post 149 and post 188 changed to make me more worthy of a vote than Cobalting (in your eyes), and then between 188 and post 192 to make you change back?

[beeboy]

I am too lazy to reread the game and it is 2am.

Town
{Droog}

Semi-Town
{Aristophanes, Shinobi}

Ye Idk about these ones could go either way
{Viva La Gloria, Cobalting}

Semi-Scum
{Supreme Overlord, Masquerade, TheShadow}

Scum
{Something_Smart, SnarkySnowman, ika, BrightEyedFish}

[beeboy]

ve your reads on the top two wagons
asap

Funny enough I made a read list in place of a response for this and the top 2 wagons I cannot read right now.
Cobalting is just playing weirdly and I believe that wagon is only in place to drive more clear content.
Viva is so jumpy I cannot get my thoughts together at 2am but nothing stuck out so I don't really want to look into his slot right now