Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)

[pistachi0n]

I think Firebringer is town.

Why?

[AlwaysInnocent]

I think Firebringer is town.

Why?

Why are you town, according to you?

Answer this question first.

[TheCow]

I was being rhetorical. The question itself is really the bullshit thing here. How do you call that an interrogation?

[pistachi0n]

I think Firebringer is town.

Why?

Why are you town, according to you?

Answer this question first.

I'm town because I saw my role PM.

[Titus]

Titus, why did you ignore all the towntells on Something_Smart when he was being lynched? You still have not answered this very important question.

I didn't see anything remotely town.

That's like asking a colorblind man why he ate the green one and not the red one.

[Titus]

Green apple...

[pistachi0n]

"Lynch me if I'm wrong" isn't alignment indicative. Its indicative of conviction which is, coupled with other factors, indicative.

It's what everyone says now, though, so it's an almost worthless tell.

[Firebringer]

I think Firebringer is town.

Why?

Why are you town, according to you?

Answer this question first.

I'm town because I saw my role PM.

Well technically he answered the question.

[Firebringer]

I didn't see anything remotely town.

That's like asking a colorblind man why he ate the green one and not the red one.

I saw town stuff!

[Cerberus v666]

Holy shit. Okay, umm. Viva, what you're doing is the definition of a death tunnel. Maybe you're fucking right (I haven't seen anything from Titus to make me feel strongly about her in any way), but the WAY you're doing this is incredibly anti-town. You're ridiculous push almost put us at L-1 less than a day into the phase. Answering: lol speedlynch me if I'm wrong is bullshit if you're town, because now you're fucking asking for two mislynches in a row. Go directly to LYLO with 0 scum flips, do not pass go. How about you give us a REAL appraisal of the game state, starting with the assumption that Titus is conftown. I am very interested in seeing where your reasoning leads you. Remember, if Titus is conftown, people who have disagreed with you about lynching her aren't automatically scum anymore!

TheCow: is this a wagon because he's useless? Is that basically what I'm looking at? Oh, and "meta". "Lolhammered town" Yeah, right, because scum wouldn't be SUPER aware of the fact that they're blatantly hammering town. Are you telling me TheCow is Uber and next leveling us here? He made rhe blatant lolhammer play assuming we'd think "No fucking way scum just did that?" No offense, the cow, but I assume competence in scum teams, not inspired play, competence alone does not make that play make sense, and I don't have nearly enough experience with TheCow to assume he's capable of taking that line.

So, yeah. Give me more guys. Titus had a stupid tell that worked for her a few times before and she placed her faith in it, and TheCow is a useless lurksack. Does anybody actually have any more reason for having lynch worthy certainty the wagon they're on is on scum?

[AlwaysInnocent]

I was being rhetorical. The question itself is really the bullshit thing here. How do you call that an interrogation?

Alright. You want to be interrogated instead? Why did you hammer someone you believed to be town?

I think Firebringer is town.

Why?

Why are you town, according to you?

Answer this question first.

I'm town because I saw my role PM.

Well technically he answered the question.

Yes, it's the kind of answer that begs for a lynch.

Titus, why did you ignore all the towntells on Something_Smart when he was being lynched? You still have not answered this very important question.

I didn't see anything remotely town.

That's like asking a colorblind man why he ate the green one and not the red one.

Sure you didn't. Terrible excuse.

[SirCakez]

Cerberus you said you could do more analysis with flips. What do the two flips tell you?

[Drixx]

Searching for a replacement for Yonom.

[Titus]

@Cerb, The last person who lol hammered town like that was scum. Second, his lol hammer after avoiding the wagon just is terrible. I am at meta farts with the cow (still don't know what meta there) but oh well.

Still perfectly fine with a Pistachion wagon as well. His statement that he'd want me looked into yesterday combined with his reluctance to vote me when the eventuality came to pass isn't townie either.

Now, you cannot just shit all over the existing scumhunting while providing none of your own.

[Cerberus v666]

@Cerb, The last person who lol hammered town like that was scum. Second, his lol hammer after avoiding the wagon just is terrible. I am at meta farts with the cow (still don't know what meta there) but oh well.

Still perfectly fine with a Pistachion wagon as well. His statement that he'd want me looked into yesterday combined with his reluctance to vote me when the eventuality came to pass isn't townie either.

Now, you cannot just shit all over the existing scumhunting while providing none of your own.

True. I'll get around to isoing everyone after work today, spent yesterday being sick.

[AlwaysInnocent]

@Cerb, The last person who lol hammered town like that was scum. Second, his lol hammer after avoiding the wagon just is terrible. I am at meta farts with the cow (still don't know what meta there) but oh well.

Still perfectly fine with a Pistachion wagon as well. His statement that he'd want me looked into yesterday combined with his reluctance to vote me when the eventuality came to pass isn't townie either.

Now, you cannot just shit all over the existing scumhunting while providing none of your own.

Yeah, well, Titus, even though I agree that TheCow is scummy, you used a similar argument against Something_Smart ("the last person who made a joke during RVS was scum, therefore Something_Smart is scum"), when he was town.

Your case against TheCow is better, but the first argument is fallacious. Just because scum have done X doesn't mean that when someone does X they must be scum.

[Titus]

I didn't say TheCow was confirmed scum to me. He's just the most scummy to me atm. Totally not opposed to a pistachion wagon either. If my argument against cow was perfect to me, I would say that.

[SirCakez]

I don't see the scumminess from Pistachion honestly.

[pistachi0n]

Titus--When was I reluctant to vote you? I'm voting for you now!

[Titus]

When the day started.

[SirCakez]

AI can you make a new reads list?

[Viva La Gloria]

I don't see the scumminess from Pistachion honestly.

So you're townreading Titus and you think that Pistachion's "oh we can just lynch Titus if she's wrong" line was okay?
Do you even have the capacity for cognitive dissonance?

[Viva La Gloria]

Cerberus you said you could do more analysis with flips. What do the two flips tell you?

seconding this request.

[SirCakez]

I don't see the scumminess from Pistachion honestly.

So you're townreading Titus and you think that Pistachion's "oh we can just lynch Titus if she's wrong" line was okay?
Do you even have the capacity for cognitive dissonance?

I just looked through her ISO. Not seeing it.

[Viva La Gloria]

Holy shit. Okay, umm. Viva, what you're doing is the definition of a death tunnel. Maybe you're fucking right (I haven't seen anything from Titus to make me feel strongly about her in any way), but the WAY you're doing this is incredibly anti-town. You're ridiculous push almost put us at L-1 less than a day into the phase. Answering: lol speedlynch me if I'm wrong is bullshit if you're town, because now you're fucking asking for two mislynches in a row. Go directly to LYLO with 0 scum flips, do not pass go. How about you give us a REAL appraisal of the game state, starting with the assumption that Titus is conftown. I am very interested in seeing where your reasoning leads you. Remember, if Titus is conftown, people who have disagreed with you about lynching her aren't automatically scum anymore!

TheCow: is this a wagon because he's useless? Is that basically what I'm looking at? Oh, and "meta". "Lolhammered town" Yeah, right, because scum wouldn't be SUPER aware of the fact that they're blatantly hammering town. Are you telling me TheCow is Uber and next leveling us here? He made rhe blatant lolhammer play assuming we'd think "No fucking way scum just did that?" No offense, the cow, but I assume competence in scum teams, not inspired play, competence alone does not make that play make sense, and I don't have nearly enough experience with TheCow to assume he's capable of taking that line.

So, yeah. Give me more guys. Titus had a stupid tell that worked for her a few times before and she placed her faith in it, and TheCow is a useless lurksack. Does anybody actually have any more reason for having lynch worthy certainty the wagon they're on is on scum?

1) I am fucking right.
2) SirCakez isn't scum for disagreeing with me about the wagon. He refuses to elaborate on the reasons for his townread, cites ridiculous meta that applies to nearly all of Cow's games as a reason to scumread him, and is defending all of my scumreads and pushing my townreads.
He goes tomorrow.
3) Cow lolhammered a cop in a game before they could claim. Can't use that idiocy as alignment indicative.
4) If you're going to bitch and whine about the current wagons, why don't you present a goddamn alternative.

For the record, if Titus was town the only difference is that I'd lynch EE instead of Yonom. Easy.

I just looked through her ISO. Not seeing it.

I don't even think you're worth talking to at this point.