In post 5961, Drunken Pirates wrote:Ok, Yoyo. I am here so we can sit down and talk. ABR is in no sense obvtown.
1. Bussing unlynchable scum is in no way worthy of a townread, especially when the bus comes AFTER Mollie claiming bulletproof. Bussing lynchproof scum happens all the time, doubly so get a benefit that triggers AFTER said scum otherwise would have died,
See Max's roleflips
Sure, being on Max's wagon is less of a towntell then it normally would be. I already this myself several pages ago when CC tried to use it as a defense.
That's not what I'm saying, though. Go back and re-read the interactions between ABR and Max on day 1. I really do not think there's any way those two are on the same scumteam.
2. ABR did NOT avoid bad bandwagons. He pushed RAL, Klingon, and Skybird for shit reasons and none of them are likely scum. Just because he picked the scum that scum benefit from lynching over a terrible townie matching his scum meta is not a reason to townread. DS was technically a serial killer but not group scum.
That's exactally what I'm talking about.
He pushed R&L, went after them hard, until that slot started looking town. As soon as they did, he was the first one off of the wagon he had started, and he quickly dismantled the wagon. He easily could have kept pushing that, and he did not.
Both his Klingon and Skybird pushes made perfect sense at the time, no matter if you agreed with them or not. And he was willing to listen to my case on Skybird being town and drop that.
Albert's play demonstrates quite clearly that he was really, honestly scumhunting; he was willing to go after anyone who looked supicious and go after them hard even if it put him at odds with various other players, but as soon as they started to look town, he dropped it. He never went after targets that didn't quite make sense but would have benefited him personally, like you for example.
3. No. His reads make no sense at all from a town perspective. Particularly his vaccinating treatment of me. He has asked me to post today but then shitted on my reads. I believe the word he used was delusional. He took the same approach when I tried discussing CoolDog and his party. He loved me to put me as "second in command" but then kicked me out when I objected to his party. That's not how to treat townreads,
Yeah, he's been acting like a dick. I don't blame you for being frustrated and upset with him. But there is absolutely no reason for him to piss you off like that if he was scum; especially not while he's made quite clear that he thinks you are town. If he was scum, acting the way he has would hurt his chances of winning. Scum-ABR would either try to make nice with you, or else he would try to lynch you; he wouldn't piss you off and at the same time call you town and defend you the way he consistently has been all game.
4. If someone cannot be trusted to tell the truth with their claims, then they are a danger to town.
If we lynched everyone who has lied so far this game for some stupid gambit, we'd have to lynch about half the people in this game. It pisses me off too, but what are you going to do.
Anyway, I don't care if you think he's "a danger to the town". We want to lynch scum, not make policy lynches on someone because you don't approve of his play.
5. That dayvig is utter shit. A dayvig going off on someone not group scum that lacked the approval of conftown or anyone in the hood is terrible. It reeks of scum knowing DS shot Max and eliminating a threat.
Excuse me?
That dayvig was my idea. I was the one who suggested it. I suggested it because it was totally, absolutely, 100% freaking obvious that DS was not town. Hell, yesterday, apropos nothing, he made a bullshit argument for why if a SK claimed the town should not lynch him, even though no one else had brought up a SK. And that's just the tip of the iceburg; every single post he's made, all game, was terrible and scummy. Did you not notice the way he started out the game trying to flatter/ manipulate you and say you were the greatest thing ever, and then 100 pages later he was disparaging your mafia ability?
If we had not had a dayvig shot available to us, then we were 100% going to lynch DS today. Period. I was going to make absolutely, totally sure of it, even if nobody else did. (Only reason we didn't lynch him yesterday was his claim, and even yesterday I was suggesting he should be vigged.) However, we did have a dayvig shot, and we wanted to claim Pip's claim, AND DS made a bullshit-sounding claim about being untaratagble, so shooting him was totally the right move, both because it was a way to test his claim and because we needed him to die. Good thing we had it, too, since if we had lynched him it would have been bad for us.
The rest of us don't need "permission" from "people in the neighborhood" to play the game, Titus. I am here to chew bubblegum and lynch scum, and I am going to find and lynch scum, no matter if I'm "in the neighborhood" or not.
I have no idea what any of this has to do with Albert, though. Sure, Albert supported my suggestion that we shoot DS, and so did Lowell's hydra, and so did other people. Why does that make Albert scum? It was clearly the right move.
6. Post 3038 by ABR. Hey Titus, you are playing shitty bulletproof. Scum wouldn't know they need a strongman unless you told them. ABR then votes to unlock said strongman.
Uh. Are you seriously trying to use Albert's attempt to lynch scum as evidence against him here?
You do understand that even though it unlocked his powers, that the town lynching Max was VERY good for the town, and that Max going unlynched until later in the game would have been VERY VERY bad for the town, right? If a 1-shot unlynchable unkillable scum gets to endgame without being lynched at least once, town just autoloses.
Or do you care more about your own survival then about the town winning?
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
