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P.S. To be able to edit it, make a copy (File -> Make a copy).Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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What am I meant to be seeing here?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Well, try putting "Titus" into A22.
Don't you see a scum strategy here?Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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oh you're saying Ika and Titus cross bussedYes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Nope.
Well if you don't see it then it's probably confbias. I've tried to post it without comments to see if any1 sees what I do.
I'll explain my thoughts then:
I looked at when exactly do scum switch to the ika's wagon.
Asked myself - why did they do so? Obvious answer: it was a planned decision to bus.
Who took that decision? Obviously he would jump on that wagon first.
Why would they take such decision? To counter a wagon on someone who had aplanthat could look towny while actually serving scum?Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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Also, interesting enough, scum didn't cross vote (except ika's vote for Titus, but he does that all the time so...) before bussing happened.
Titus being scum matches that pattern perfectly.Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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In post 3754, Netherspite wrote:Nope.
Well if you don't see it then it's probably confbias. I've tried to post it without comments to see if any1 sees what I do.
I'll explain my thoughts then:
I looked at when exactly do scum switch to the ika's wagon.
Asked myself - why did they do so? Obvious answer: it was a planned decision to bus.
Who took that decision? Obviously he would jump on that wagon first.
Why would they take such decision? To counter a wagon on someone who had aplanthat could look towny while actually serving scum?
Look dude it's 4 am and I'm fucking tired. I'm still writing this essay, and I have a class in 5 hours and I'm not gonna get any sleep tonight.
So none of these "well if you don't see it" shit, just fucking lay it all on me and help a sister out yeah?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Well I just did.
Titus matches perfectly into it.
D1 starts, Titus sees her role and says "GUYS! I have an ideal plan! I'll make all receivers in the hood with me and call that a townblock. One of you will be in this 'townblock' with me!"
Later, a wagon on Titus starts growing and she's becomes worried by her plan not becoming reality. She decides that scum should bus one of them, announces it in the scum PT and votes him, the one who is already being suspected.
Other scums join the wagon a bit later (when they see her post in the PT).
Later an opportunity to score a mislynch on Wisdom appears and she immediately jumps there. When she realizes it won't happen she jumps back sticking with the plan.Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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Just realized I wrote wrong name in the last sentence.
Fix: Wisdom -> Marquis.Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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Or at least I'm 90% sure it's not here.
Also, why would they kill Firebringer? He's no threat at this point...“Why was I chosen?'
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At this point, I don't even care. Just take a wagon to L-1 and I'll hammer it, or something like that. The problem with this game is that there is nothing in the roles that alignment indicative.“Why was I chosen?'
'Such questions cannot be answered,' said Gandalf. 'You may be sure that it was not for any merit that others do not possess. But you have been chosen, and you must therefore use such strength and heart and wits as you have.”-
Netherspite
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FB is conftown.
Also, killing you was a risk of you targeting Marquis (and you did it), while killing me was a kill on a mislynchable player.
I guess scum just outguessed you and decided that you'll target Marquis and it was a correct guess.
Another reason could be to make you easier to mislynch (why wasn't he targeted by scum, may be he's scum himself?)
Anyway, share your opinion on #3757 please.Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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In post 3749, Netherspite wrote:<Redacted by MOD>
Rows: players, Columns: VCs,
Cells contain names of who the player is voting at that specific VC.
2 pairs of VCs were merged as there were no changes (I listed them like VC8-9 or so).
You can replace the name of the last scum in cell A22 with any name of the remaining players. It will highlight scum names with red and town names with green.
Now a little exercise: tell me who's the last scum.
It's so obvious it hurts.
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Titus
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Ok Nether. Let's talk for a minute. When doing a VCA, you're looking for people to clear. If the scumteam becomes obvious, that's another thing entirely.
Let's start with your whole scum double bussed theory. That's ridiculously inaccurate. Ika votes me in every single game. If ika slot has any hope of being townread it has to vote park me. The fact ika didn't do anything is as good as a cop guilty on the slot to many players on this site. It's one of the major reasons I don't play with ika anymore and it skews the results.
The proof of this skewing is in the Courier New aka Marquis counterwagon that sprung up. Given the site meta, the wagon had no shot regardless of Marquis's alignment. If we suppose Marquis is scum, then he had the more powerful role. If Marquis is town, the scumteam would be signing their own death warrants by mislynching him. While normally I would scream for Marquis's head with this setup if you're town, it would be academically dishonest to do so.
Frankly, the vote on Wisdom from Marquis slot seems more damning than anything else here.
3057 I feel is the most suggestive VC of the game. Marquis could be staging an epic bus, but that seems unlikely. If he's the only active scum, why not help town into its own grave? If he's going for bus cred, why is he murdering the people like Imperium who would be the people most likely to give it to him?
3300+ Nethersprite is voting DS who is voting SDB. That doesn't make sense there. DS voting there makes him pretty solid town. Nether's vote pattern has been shiny wagon or threat of one, jump on it. He's been fueling the LLD v DS bullshit that has permeated the entire game.
By VCA alone,
DS = town
Marquis = likely town <D1 still a concern>
Lld = Probable townbeard
nether = scum [sorry spiffeh]ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yes this is the case where the scumteam became obvious. If others don't see it - fine, but I hope town will reconsider it in LyLo if you'll succeed to mislynch me.
1. Yes I know ika votes you in every single game. I even used that fact in the explanation.
2. If Marquis wagon had no shot why did you vote him?
3. My vote pattern was at first tunneling Marquis, later sheeping you before I realized I'm being led by scum. After that there was a reaction test (yeah from your PoV it was terrible but idc, I would do it again if I would be in the same situation). And finally it was a vote on a cop's guilty result.
So no, my vote pattern was definitely better than yours. Yours is screaming of scum while mine is logical from town PoV.Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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1. no you really didn't. You didn't factor the guts of D1 at all. Dual bus theory is a fiction. There were zero scum on my wagon beyond ika mandatory vote. That's not scum shifting it deliberately. Like wtf.
2. Because I don't want drama with ika. I didn't have knowledge of his alignment. I also like investigation.
3. Why you are supposing Marquis is town? Your whole point was that you were "being led by scum" which makes no sense in that context.
4. Your "reaction test" was nothing but an attempt to mislynch DS. If I hadn't have stepped in, he probably would have been.
5. The goal of a VCA is not to prove your own vote pattern as better than anyone else's. The goal is to sort players.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 3767, Titus wrote:1. no you really didn't. You didn't factor the guts of D1 at all. Dual bus theory is a fiction. There were zero scum on my wagon beyond ika mandatory vote. That's not scum shifting it deliberately. Like wtf.
2. Because I don't want drama with ika. I didn't have knowledge of his alignment. I also like investigation.
3. Why you are supposing Marquis is town? Your whole point was that you were "being led by scum" which makes no sense in that context.
4. Your "reaction test" was nothing but an attempt to mislynch DS. If I hadn't have stepped in, he probably would have been.
5. The goal of a VCA is not to prove your own vote pattern as better than anyone else's. The goal is to sort players.
1. Yeah, there wasn't any cross-votes between scum except ika's vote on you and scum votes on ika. That's my point. That's the pattern.
2. So you say that his behavior was equal to cop's guilty but you didn't have knowledge of his alignment and changed your vote because you didn't want drama with him?
This makes no sense. Why did you vote him in the first place then? Why did you return your vote back after a single votecount?
3. I've made that spreadsheet for a reason. I was able to put in name of every remaining player to see if that player as scum would make sense. The only player who did was you. Marquis does not.
I was led by scum because you've built that hood for the single reason: to mislead town. I've got caught into that trap until latest game days.
4. Are you kidding me? Did it look like I'm going to mislynch him? Why did I say it was a reaction test and stopped it then?
And even if it would go through, what would scum!me achieve? Confirm myself as scum? You're making no sense again.
5. Yeah I sorted players and found the last scum. That's the purpose of VCA, right?Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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Btw, if I were scum I wouldn't go for Titus' mislynch today because that would put me into LyLo with 2 not mislynchable players tomorrow.
So you've chosen wrong player to mislynch Titus. I realize you put yourself into this situation because you were "scumreading" me for a while and "townreading" the rest but still.
Anyway, it's getting really late here.
VOTE: Titus
Funny enough, I've caught Titus using VCA she's famous for.
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@Titus
If you will manage to convince town to mislynch me you'll be still obvscum tomorrow.Now modding:Netherspite's SORM Mafia III(Day 2)-
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You need to update your grandstanding prescription. The doctor gave you flail while appearing to be confident instead.
My response to you would be my prior post and Mollie's taught me that replying to your post with anymore words makes it appear legit.
So
*farts*ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Titus I hope you know I'm dead set on lynching you today (for a variety of reasons, some being that this whole interaction with nether comes off with your mindset not sounding very genuine, and also because the simpler explanation for ika reacting differently to to you this game seems to be a result of stilted scumpartner interaction attempts). If you're not scum, it's between DS and LLD tomorrow, so please try to put your energy toward analyzing that dichotomy instead.link in bio-
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No.
DS and LLD are town. I am going to put my energy towards getting those two to cooperate.
If it's you're goal to mislynch me, do it already.
I don't need to survive to win. I just need LLD and DS to realize each other are town or scum are forced to murder them.
So nope.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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