Open 624 Fire and Ice - Fire Mafia Wins

[Shinobi]

I need to reread droog as well - I don't like that Aero post.

Really?
I liked it...

Also, Aero, I am awkward a lot.
Just sayin'

Why?

He covered some of the main points and came out with reads from them. He didn't vote despite a scumlean because he isn't caught up. As catchup posts go, it was good for content analysis without being bulky, off topic, or agenda pushing.
What's not to like?

Or do you mean why am I awkward sometimes?
Because I don't have a good answer for that.

Because the content is relatively bad - a lot of it is vapid commenting on nothing while smearing things that have obvious solutions to them.

[Something_Smart]

Shinobi's probably not scum though?
And even if he is he's an awful day one lynch.
Vote someone who is trying to stay under the radar, like Shadow.

Stop changing your story. First he's scum and deserves to be lynched, then he's scum who SHOULDN'T be lynched (?), now he's probably not scum. And you haven't explained any of it.

I think it's better to lynch scum, idk about you man...

Dumb statements are dumb.

Actually, I think the dumb statement is Viva trying to lynch based on activity rather than scumminess. The Shadow lynch is basically a PL.

VOTE: the_shadow
I can do a shadow lynch.

Oh look! More opportunism!
We are absolutely lynching Shinobi today. This is unacceptable.

[Shinobi]

Shinobi's probably not scum though?
And even if he is he's an awful day one lynch.
Vote someone who is trying to stay under the radar, like Shadow.

Stop changing your story. First he's scum and deserves to be lynched, then he's scum who SHOULDN'T be lynched (?), now he's probably not scum. And you haven't explained any of it.

I think it's better to lynch scum, idk about you man...

Dumb statements are dumb.

Actually, I think the dumb statement is Viva trying to lynch based on activity rather than scumminess. The Shadow lynch is basically a PL.

VOTE: the_shadow
I can do a shadow lynch.

Oh look! More opportunism!
We are absolutely lynching Shinobi today. This is unacceptable.

So I'm voting a wagon with less votes on it than Cobalting? How opportunistic of me.

[Shinobi]

I'm just going to assume that SS is scum until the end of the game because there's no feasible way another human being is this dense.

[Shinobi]

I mean, I can also point out the fact that he has completely ignored that shadow has jumped on my wagon, which is getting a ridiculous amount of heat, for no reason whatsoever in order to call my vote on him opportunistic.

It's selective and scummy in and of itself, but that's besides the point.

[Something_Smart]

So your vote is OMGUS because you're annoyed that he's right?

[Shinobi]

So your vote is OMGUS because you're annoyed that he's right?

Yes, obviously.

[texcat]

Day 1, Votecount 11

Shinobi(5):

SilverWolf, ika, Cobalting, TheShadow, Something_Smart

TheShadow (2):

Viva La Gloria, Shinobi

Cobalting (1):

SnarkySnowman

ika (1):

Supreme Overlord

Not Voting (4):

Aristophanes, beeboy, Aeronaut, Masquerade

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or to no lynch.

Deadline

: Monday, February 8, 2016 9:00 am (Texas time)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2016-02-08 09:00:00)

[Aristophanes]

I think it's better to lynch scum, idk about you man...

Dumb statements are dumb.

Actually, I think the dumb statement is Viva trying to lynch based on activity rather than scumminess. The Shadow lynch is basically a PL

Because he was toootally wasn't insinuating that scum are more likely to be quieter in multi ball but was saying that we should lurker lynch.
And he was toootally saying he'd rather do that than lynch scum.

Also, scum even want to lynch scum here, so your argument is dumb regardless.


Shinobi's snark is funny.

[Something_Smart]

My argument is that Shinobi is scummy whereas Shadow is null and lurking. Lurking is not alignment indicative because rl.

Shinobi's snark is flailing.

Aristo! Vote Shinobi with me!

[Supreme Overlord]

I don't have a lot of time but I'll weigh in with some quick notes:

I don't like Shinobi's unforced claim; however, the way that wagon grew was bad, particularly TheShadow and Cobalting's vote. (Shinobi's vote on Cobalting may have also been bad, but that doesn't invalidate Cobalting's vote also being bad.) I'll need to reread Shinobi in full.

Viva's reaction to Shinobi's claim was pretty good, though that doesn't mean he's right. I wish he'd interact with me instead of ignoring everything I say to him.

Snarky continues to throw out town reads instead of scum reads. If we're talking about voting inactives I'd suggest Snarky's a good spot as well.

I'll get to other stuff later.

[Cobalting]

Shit, Viva is probably town.

No, Viva is probably Shinobi's scumbuddy.
(Which would make the other team {Supreme Overlord, Something_Smart} if I'm right on my reads. I'll check that in a bit. Need to get caught up first.)

[Cobalting]

It seems hella early for this.

Why? You seem to have agreed with most of my reads when reading through the thread at the same spot.

Shadow is the mislynch both factions are looking for, by the way.

[Cobalting]

Btw, if any of those reads would be wrong: Something_Smart is the towniest of the four right now, but he's still my current guess for fourth scum.
Viva's still looking bad, Shinobi gets worse each post, and Supreme Overlord isn't any better. They're all scumhunting, but they look like scum scumhunting, not town scumhunting.

[Cobalting]

{beeboy, Aeronaut, Masquerade, Aristophanes}
{ika, Silverwolf, Snarky Snowman, TheShadow}
{Something_Smart}
{Supreme Overlord}
{Viva la Gloria, Shinobi}

[Something_Smart]

Shit, Viva is probably town.

No, Viva is probably Shinobi's scumbuddy.
(Which would make the other team {Supreme Overlord, Something_Smart} if I'm right on my reads. I'll check that in a bit. Need to get caught up first.)

You think Viva and Shinobi are a team after Viva's big push on Shinobi early in the day?

[Aristophanes]

Shit, Viva is probably town.

No, Viva is probably Shinobi's scumbuddy.
(Which would make the other team {Supreme Overlord, Something_Smart} if I'm right on my reads. I'll check that in a bit. Need to get caught up first.)

You think Viva and Shinobi are a team after Viva's big push on Shinobi early in the day?

Hmm...I'll definitely reread these two. I don't see scum buddy interaction, but I may have missed it.

[Shinobi]

Btw, if any of those reads would be wrong: Something_Smart is the towniest of the four right now, but he's still my current guess for fourth scum.
Viva's still looking bad, Shinobi gets worse each post, and Supreme Overlord isn't any better. They're all scumhunting, but they look like scum scumhunting, not town scumhunting.

Again - why?

[SnarkySnowman]

Please tell me why shinobi is scum

[Masquerade]

Viva, can you votehop another time? I'm testing a theory.

[Something_Smart]

Please tell me why shinobi is scum

Several opportunistic votes without real reasons. Couldn't give reasons, even when pressed. Became upset after being wagoned, but in a flail-y "that wasn't supposed to happen" way and not a towny "yikes I'm being mislynched" way (it's hard to explain, but read the last few pages and you'll see it). Using angry and scathing AtE as a last-ditch effort (to scare people off his wagon maybe?) and personal insults (never acceptable btw).

[Shinobi]

Please tell me why shinobi is scum

Several opportunistic votes without real reasons. Couldn't give reasons, even when pressed. Became upset after being wagoned, but in a flail-y "that wasn't supposed to happen" way and not a towny "yikes I'm being mislynched" way (it's hard to explain, but read the last few pages and you'll see it). Using angry and scathing AtE as a last-ditch effort (to scare people off his wagon maybe?) and personal insults (never acceptable btw).

Pretty sure I've given reasons for just about everything I've done this game, the sole exception possibly being my vote on shadow.

Even then I think it's relatively obvious that I'm voting him for jumping on my wagon for no reason.

The rest of your case is basically nonexistent.

[beeboy]

Silver can you link the game about shinobi?

Can you explain the bee town read a little I feel like his long wait to vote me feels off

I'll look into ss and so later to see when I get off

I want to sort this game asap

My uni apps are done but I have low motivation to participate in any game right now but I think it will pass so I am going to try and stick around.

I don't like Masq's unvote at all, I can't imagine anyone hammering and it was his scum read pretty much all game.

Although I really don't like Shinobi's reaction to being at L-1 it was very low effort and felt scummy. It didn't provide any reads or anything to help town and it felt as though he was trying to appeal to the fact that there was so much time left in the day and that if he did nothing about being at L-1 we would move on so we could make more use out of discussion time.

[beeboy]

VOTE: Shinobi

I am going to try and get back to being active in this game :/

[beeboy]

BTW SHINOBI IS AT L-1