Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)

[Karnage]

VOTE: Firebringer
Cow still needs rope but this slot is going unpressured and needs some badly.

I'll VOTE: firebringer

I'm interested to see how far you are willing to bus him here, cakez

Many games on the ConquerClub (that's like online RISK) forum (2005 - 2012)

I played some games over at CC back in '12. Maybe we played together. What was your username? I was thechuck51

[SirCakez]

It's not bussing, he's just scummy?

[TheCow]

prodge, probably

[Karnage]

It's not bussing, he's just scummy?

if you say so.

I believe fire is at L-2 btw

[Viva La Gloria]

This Firebringer flashwagon is awful but I don't have time to deal with it atm.

[Titus]

Why is it awful? You said he was scum but "not the priority"? Why can't he be? Scum is scum.

[Firebringer]

Drunk fire is here, whats up guys?

[TheCow]

What's the story behind this Fire wagon?

[TheCow]

kaag's reads are crap, I don't understand them

[Titus]

VLA Feb 5th

[Firebringer]

I'll VOTE: firebringer

I'm interested to see how far you are willing to bus him here, cakez
In

LOL this is hilarious.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: FB

Let's move SirCakes.


@Cerb, he is. But he's not pursuing his speed wagon theory. What how would my flip impact his reads? Did he think the speed was indicative of a town push or a scum push? I followed up with him to get that out of him and he basically was just defensive. The way the conversation read to me was Pisskop saying "If you're going to suspect me for not voting you, we can fix that" rather than the tone of "hey I am trying to scumhunt here, get out of my way". His non prescence doesn't help matters.

Wow titus gut, turns on her? who knew? Me. Thats who, her "gut" is shit.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

kaag's reads are crap, I don't understand them

Hi TheCow.

With the exception of Titus and Viva La Gloria, my reads (coming in on page 50 of an ongoing game) are mainly based on two factors:

1) How much effort was put into scum hunting
2) How many posts were made that are just useless filler, designed to make it look as though someone is contributing when they're not

I'm afraid you came bottom of the list, so far. Your hammer didn't help either, although it wasn't the biggest factor: as I said, I only "liked" 2 of your posts in total.

For Titus and Viva, my read is that when you single-mindedly stick to one lynch, unflinchingly, you are unlikely to be scum, as scum tend to opportunistically leap from wagon to wagon, avoiding being the center of attention (unless doing some scum theater bussing). They have both drawn a lot of attention to themselves, which makes me think they are likely town.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

To be clear, the only read I have that I'm relatively sure on is Cerberus as Town. Every other one is just a lean, and subject to change as more content appears. If I'm wrong about you or someone else, convince me.

[AlwaysInnocent]

To be clear, the only read I have that I'm relatively sure on is Cerberus as Town. Every other one is just a lean, and subject to change as more content appears. If I'm wrong about you or someone else, convince me.

I had the same impression at first, but I am not so sure anymore about Cerberus.

[SirCakez]

Not impressed with Fire's defense so far.

[AlwaysInnocent]

Read List 2.1

{AlwaysInnocent}

{KAAG}

{Viva La Gloria}

{Cerberus v666, Karnage}

{pistachi0n}

{Titus, SirCakez, Firebringer}

{TheCow, Eagle}

No explanation. Screw you.

[Viva La Gloria]

Why is it awful? You said he was scum but "not the priority"? Why can't he be? Scum is scum.

No, I said he

could

be scum.
The fact that the entire scumteam just flashwagoned him determined that he is town.
Why the hell are we not lynching Titus here?

[KickAssAndGiggle]

Why is it awful? You said he was scum but "not the priority"? Why can't he be? Scum is scum.

No, I said he

could

be scum.
The fact that the entire scumteam just flashwagoned him determined that he is town.
Why the hell are we not lynching Titus here?

As I understand it, your main reason for thinking Titus is scum was because she voted SS without a reason, and wouldn't engage with you on the subject.

But, I saw the reason: making a weird post in RVS and then going "I was joking" later.

(Also, have to say post 224 by SS reads as super scummy, even though it obviously wasn't...surprised a towny would post that wall of irrelevance. I'd have joined his wagon after that!)

Do I think Titus' reason was good? Nope, typical "Scum did this in another game" fallacy. But being wrong is not being scum.

Conversely, do I think your reason is good? Nope, typical "She won't repeat her point to me every time I ask and it's suspicious" fallacy.

I think you two are TvT...that's what my Occam's Razor says to me.

Titus,

You are reading SirCakez as town, right? Why? Please no meta: in this thread, where's the town read coming from?

AI,

Why am I your top town read? All I've done is summarize my reads, based on scum hunting volume. And I'm town-reading Titus which you don't agree with...

[Titus]

@KAAG,

I don't see how anyone isn't townreading Cakes. To me, he is the most obvious scumhunter out if everyone here. We tend to be in the same place regarding most our reads and he's pushing the things I would except for Viva.

[Titus]

Cakes flip would gain a lot of information regarding the game and VCA though.

[AlwaysInnocent]

@KAAG,

I don't see how anyone isn't townreading Cakes. To me, he is the most obvious scumhunter out if everyone here. We tend to be in the same place regarding most our reads and he's pushing the things I would except for Viva.

You must be scum. No way you are this gullible.

[SirCakez]

Viva why do you think Karnage is scum?

[KickAssAndGiggle]

@KAAG,

I don't see how anyone isn't townreading Cakes. To me, he is the most obvious scumhunter out if everyone here. We tend to be in the same place regarding most our reads and he's pushing the things I would except for Viva.

Hmm...well, I skimmed his ISO again...maybe it's a little better than I thought last night. Still, do you not think that:

"I'll make same reads as Titus, because she'll get the flak on D2, not me"

Could be his scum motivation? Because that's kinda what's happened with Viva...

I read your single-minded push as somewhat towny...but he was arguing all kinds of points with everyone who wasn't on the wagon. It just doesn't read so well to me.

Plus...Droog was on the Cakes wagon (I actually thought I saw him unvote but that wasn't reflected in the vote count), and was for my money the most logical of all who were on that wagon...and he ended up with a bullet.

[SirCakez]

My reads aren't the same as Titus's. Mainly it's our two top scum reads that align. She think Viva and Pistach are scum for example and I don't.
And yeah Droog unvoted me pretty quickly. Suggesting I would shoot him as scum after he unvoted me easily is absurd.