Open 624 Fire and Ice - Fire Mafia Wins

[Aristophanes]

Can somebody present an actual case on Shadow instead of just saying "he's lurker scum"?

It doesn't look like it, but I'll see what I can do.

[SilverWolf]

Prod acknowledged, haven't had as much time for this as I'd hoped.

VOTE: Shinobi

Vote belongs here for now.

This is an opportunistic vote on a growing wagon with absolutely no explanation.

UNVOTE:
Shinobi can be town, for now.
Reads post looks genuine. Has me as his top scumread for valid reasons (lurking, general lack of content)

TheShadow was the worst vote on your wagon regardless of your alignment and has an extremely nervous tone.

I got the exact opposite impression: TheShadow simply got bored and didn't care. That careless tone looks town to me. (Especially since, if I'm fully honest, I understand the feeling. I'm honestly not that invested in this game right now.)

100% this. I have trouble getting into a game where I draw a VT role PM, like I have here. Especially on day 1 when there's no hard information to work with.

No need for this early claim. He only has a few votes.

The tone in his posts is off and he's doing no scumhunting whatsoever.

[Shinobi]

Yeah I'm voting Shadow for doing nothing and voting me for no reason.
The whole bit about the claim isn't very good.

[beeboy]

o.o Shadow is still alive wut

[Masquerade]

Kill?

Yes?

Why did you choose the word 'kill' over 'lynch'?
Also, I dont know which SS you mean (I guess something-smart?) but both are townleans so why the willingness to 'kill' him? And you have ika as a townread, yet a few posts later you wonder if he could be scum. What did he do that made you say that?
Your readslist is giving me the idea you posted that because you saw your 'I don't care'-attitude wasn't working to get you unlynched. Your reason for voting Shadow is partly OMGUS and I don't like that. I'm not convinced you're town yet. I am willing to lynch Shadow today and take another look at your readslist when we have flips, maybe I'm in a tunnel but at least you're providing content we can use after you flip so would rather keep you than Shadow for now.

I'd vote Shadow because of the AtE-ish tone in his last post. It's not so much the claim in itself, he's v/la so I can understand wanting to get a claim in before coming back and seeing you've been lynched. But the way he did it doesn't show he was concerned with that at all.
Shadow is at L-2. I want a response from Shinobi first so I'm not yet putting Shadow at L-1, but the intent is definitely there.

[Viva La Gloria]

I sincerely doubt we get anything better than a Shadow lynch at this point.

Let's just get it done.

[Something_Smart]

We can do better, and rushing a lynch with 4 days left is scummy. We had the votes to lynch Shinobi.
If there is absolutely no way we can lynch Shinobi, I will be ok with a Shadow lynch. But I still think a Shinobi lynch is preferable and attainable.

[SnarkySnowman]

We can do better, and rushing a lynch with 4 days left is scummy.

Yes

We had the votes to lynch Shinobi. If there is absolutely no way we can lynch Shinobi, I will be ok with a Shadow lynch. But I still think a Shinobi lynch is preferable and attainable.

No

[Something_Smart]

Who do you think is a better lynch then?

[SnarkySnowman]

You, Cobalting, or Supreme Overlord. Preferably Cobalting, though.

[Something_Smart]

People might listen to you more if you actually gave reasons for what you say.

[Viva La Gloria]

You, Cobalting, or Supreme Overlord. Preferably Cobalting, though.

Get any of these going and you have my vote.

[Shinobi]

Kill?

Yes?

Why did you choose the word 'kill' over 'lynch'?

I felt like it?

Also, I dont know which SS you mean (I guess something-smart?) but both are townleans so why the willingness to 'kill' him?

Because he is being annoying and difficult.
The only reason I even have him as town at this point is because I've run out of people to call mafia.

And you have ika as a townread, yet a few posts later you wonder if he could be scum. What did he do that made you say that?

Silver said stuff.
Honestly ika is so apathetic that he could easily still be scum - he doesn't seem to care at all about what's going on and him whining about losing his lynch while doing nothing to keep it going is scummy.

I thought some of his earlier posts were okay-ish but he's dropping pretty fast.

Your readslist is giving me the idea you posted that because you saw your 'I don't care'-attitude wasn't working to get you unlynched.

You got me.

maybe I'm in a tunnel

Yep!

[SilverWolf]

I'm feeling better about Shinobi and worse about ika tbh. ika wouldn't ignore my reachout if he was town. Not from me he wouldn't.

[ika]

I'm feeling better about Shinobi and worse about ika tbh. ika wouldn't ignore my reachout if he was town. Not from me he wouldn't.

I feel like i have reached out to you and responde dbut you shrugged it off......

I still think hes scum, reads can be made

[SilverWolf]

Well, you are displaying one of your scum tells right now that I know about.

[ika]

Well, you are displaying one of your scum tells right now that I know about.

I know....

Did i mention that your also setting off alarm bells to me too?

[SilverWolf]

Feel free to engage me so we can work it out. You can start by giving some reads on who you think is scum and why.

[ika]

Feel free to engage me so we can work it out. You can start by giving some reads on who you think is scum and why.

I can go iso ing tommorw......

Is it bad i think your budding me though? can we start with that as well?

[SilverWolf]

Feel free to engage me so we can work it out. You can start by giving some reads on who you think is scum and why.

I can go iso ing tommorw......

Is it bad i think your budding me though? can we start with that as well?

If by buddying you mean trying to get you to engage in the game so I can sort you, feel free to call it that if it makes you happy.

[Aristophanes]

Something Smart, how are we rushing the lynch??
The game is stalling atm.
Let's just get it over with.

[Supreme Overlord]

Why is he obsessed with the presence or absence of him in Shinobi's ISO unless he's scum?

You don't think it's curious that in listing everyone in the game, Shinobi left someone off?

Also, once again, your vote on me means very little.

You, Cobalting, or Supreme Overlord. Preferably Cobalting, though.

People might listen to you more if you actually gave reasons for what you say.

This.

I agree entirely with SilverWolf's summary in post 501. Unforced claim in particular is bad. Since it doesn't appear anyone wants to look at Snarky either, I'll VOTE: TheShadow.

L-1.

[ika]

VOTE: shadow

[Supreme Overlord]

So much for:

He also does not hammer willy nilly anymore either and if he tries that shit, he knows he'll have to deal with me when the game is over and it won't be pretty.

[Cobalting]

If we want to swap wagons to say, Supreme Overlord or SS (who I'm scumreading now), I'm all for it.

If by SS you mean Something_Smart, I'd be down for either.
Or one on you for that matter.