In post 7099, Drunken Pirates wrote:In post 7098, Yosarian2 wrote:In post 7097, Drunken Pirates wrote:@ yoyo
who do you think is scum? cos I see you clearing a lot of town but I am not seeing where you are narrowing down your choices into a scum pool. but mebbe I missed it.
In post 7071, Yosarian2 wrote: Probably leaning towards votign either Klingon or CC right now
But yeah, that's mostly based on process of elimination right now.
walk me through the cuke pple read plz?
There have been a lot of little things about that slot that have pinged me as off.
They seem to engage in very long discussions about the mechanics and setup of the game while generally avoiding talking about people's alignments. That can be a scum tell, because scum often find it easier to talk about mechanics and mafia theory (which are, after all, objective and clear) instead of faking reads.
One especially weird example of this was the way that they spent so much time in a semantic/ mechanical argument to convince Drixx to not give me rings on day 1, even though they didn't seem to scum read me. In fact, during that whole discussion, they avoided saying anything about my alignment at all, instead talking totally in the hypothetical about "giving someone power", and they argued with real passion about that hypothetical mafia theory discussion. And when I called them on it, they finally admitted that they weren't actually scumreading me. The whole tone of their posts often makes me think that they're looking at this game from a distance, not like someone who is personally involved in it.
Another example of this "mechanics over role-reads" was the way they tried so hard to make sure we got a double-lynch on day 1, but didn't talk much about their read on Cooldog specifically. Like, they wanted to get a double lynch off because that was mechanically the right move from a mafia-theory perspective (I don't disagree with that) but they didn't really seem to care who the double lynch targeted, didn't seem interested in actually discussing Cooldog's alignment, and in fact anytime anyone else did try to start that discussion, they shut it down by attacking them for "getting in the way of a double-lynch". Again, mechanics over reads.
I will say that I'm not sure how much of that is alignment-indicative, and how much is just playstyle. But it's been a trend all game.
Now, when they do post reads, most of them make sense. They usually post a pretty good list of town-reads and such. But the actual details of who they vote always feels just a little off to me. Day 1, he ended up voting for Cooldog, but never really explained if he thought Cooldog or Max were more likely to be scum by the end of the day. Yesterday, he never really gave a read on Gale at all (at least, not until Gale completely broke down and claimed to be acting scummy on purpose or something). He did come out against hammering ABR early because the day wasn't over yet, and then a few posts later came out against hammering Gale because it was early and the day wasn't over yet; again, he just keeps putting mechanical concerns in front, instead of talking about who he thinks is scum.
It's not a strong read, it's just a lot of little things, and I don't have a high degree of confidence in my read on him. If CC is scum, he's skilled at it, at shading his posts just slightly to benifit his side. But I kind of think he is; at least, he's more likely to be scum then most other people in the game.
vote: The Cool Cucumbers
