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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:41 pm

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VOTE: Vote: ika
I wasn't expecting a hammer so soon after my vote at L-1, and going through ika's ISO it doesn't look like he'd mentioned The Shadow at all prior to that point. I don't read SilverWolf as buddying ika; it seems fairly clear to me that they just know each other out of game. If they're scumreading each other they could both be scum, but I'm inclined to read SilverWolf as town.


In post 570, SilverWolf wrote:
In post 569, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 550, Viva La Gloria wrote:VOTE: Supreme Overlord

This should have been yesterday's lynch.

This


Where's your vote then?
This.
Also Snarky, why? You mentioned me all of once yesterday.


@SilverWolf: anything in particular, or my posts just 'look like scum'?
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:26 pm

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Sorry for not posting yet, it's carnaval and have work today and parade-watching while binge-drinking tomorrow. I'll read up in between but chances of me making actual sense are slim.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:19 am

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Day 2, Votecount 1
Supreme Overlord(2):
Viva La Gloria, SilverWolf
ika (1):
Supreme Overlord
SilverWolf (1):
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Aeronaut (1):
Shinobi
Shinobi(1):
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Not Voting (4):
Aristophanes, Aeronaut, Masquerade, SnarkySnowman

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch or to no lynch.

Deadline
: Saturday, February 20, 2016 10:00 am (Texas time)
Countdown to deadline
: (expired on 2016-02-20 10:00:00)


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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:03 am

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I'll be super busy today but I'll try to catch up during work tomorrow.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:07 am

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Sorry about that texcat and everyone else. :wink:

Supreme Overlord-It's mostly just the tone of your posts and a gut feel I guess. I also am concerned about Snarky Snowman showing up and agreeing with Viva but not putting a vote down. It's like he's feeling out support before making a vote or joining a wagon. I do not like that. His resistance to Shinobi's lynch seemed forced as well. And like I said Aero is a possibility for lack of engagement but he's busy IRL and I need to reread droog and look at Shadow wagon when I have time. ika looks somewhat better now due to his banter with me but I'm not sure there as well. Clearly I need to reread and ISO, I just haven't had a ton of time yet to do so in depth.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:26 am

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SO's Ika vote seems kinda lazy.
Ika/SW thing is a little weird. Not sure how to react to it.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:37 am

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In post 580, Viva La Gloria wrote:SO's Ika vote seems kinda lazy.
Ika/SW thing is a little weird. Not sure how to react to it.

575 was bad. Didn't expect a hammer? From ika? You put Shadow at L-1 anyway (which was also bad)!
And why are you so concerned with who has or hasn't mentioned whom? Feels like manufacturing reasons.
The whole Shadow wagon was bad. Viva's and SO's votes were the worst. I get the feeling that Viva and Shinobi are opposing scum, and SO could be partners with either. Plus this wagon is more likely to go somewhere than Shinobi's.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:31 am

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In post 581, Something_Smart wrote:Didn't expect a hammer? From ika?
I'll quote it again:
In post 466, SilverWolf wrote:He also does not hammer willy nilly anymore either and if he tries that shit, he knows he'll have to deal with me when the game is over and it won't be pretty.
Why should I have expected a hammer? ika had made no indication that he thought Shadow was scum, and had made no indication that L-2 was pseudo-L-1.

In post 581, Something_Smart wrote:And why are you so concerned with who has or hasn't mentioned whom? Feels like manufacturing reasons.
...If people aren't giving out reads, that's scummy - or at least, helpful to scum. Public reads mean you're somewhat locked into an opinion and can't just change on a whim or go with the flow (without being called out for it), and that when you die everyone else has something to work with. So if not giving reads is bad, then not mentioning people at all is
even worse
, since I have no idea what they're thinking. And in this specific case, had no idea ika was going to hammer.


The other thing is, I think it's better to give out scum reads than town reads (it's good to
have
town reads; they're just less valuable to give out). I thought Snarky had a similar opinion, given these pair of posts:
In post 150, Something_Smart wrote:I have decent townleans on beeboy and masquerade.
Slight townleans on shadow, supreme, snarky and aristo.
Not sure about the rest.
In post 151, SnarkySnowman wrote:What about scumleans?
But then the rest of Snarky's ISO is just giving town reads (without any reasoning) until the end of the day with some lynch alternatives for Shinobi (also without reasoning).

So Snarky: do you really think it's important to give scum reads as you indicated in 151? And if so, why didn't you give any for almost the entirety of Day 1?
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:12 pm

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1. Even if you weren't expecting a hammer, didn't you want one? You put him at L-1 and he had already claimed, so why would you vote him for doing something that you knowingly made possible?
2. A lot of people have not mentioned others and it doesn't mean that they can't form opinions on them. You are not entitled to whine about every accusation that you didn't see coming a mile away. In fact, setting up future lynches is something scum do, whereas town are more likely to have sudden changes of opinion.
3. However, this is a good point. I would like to see Snarky actually explain something he does for once.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:30 pm

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SS vote silver with me
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:31 pm

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In post 580, Viva La Gloria wrote:SO's Ika vote seems kinda lazy.
Ika/SW thing is a little weird. Not sure how to react to it.


well lets start simple, do you see it being a TvT a SvS or a TvS
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:33 pm

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In post 584, ika wrote:SS vote silver with me


Sigh...............

Starting to think you are using me as an excuse to avoid giving reads on anyone else.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:37 pm

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In post 586, SilverWolf wrote:
In post 584, ika wrote:SS vote silver with me


Sigh...............

Starting to think you are using me as an excuse to avoid giving reads on anyone else.


and if i was?
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:38 pm

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Ika why don't you vote SO with me?
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:41 pm

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btw aro is prob sucm too
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:45 pm

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In post 588, Something_Smart wrote:Ika why don't you vote SO with me?


Cus im more convinced silver is scum then SO.

same question to you but on silver.

did you look at the game i was talkign about?
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:06 pm

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Are you townreading SO?

What do you think of Snarky?
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:07 pm

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In post 591, SilverWolf wrote:Are you townreading SO?


Not really? the vote on me is really crappy

What do you think of Snarky?


hes meh i would wagon it
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:23 pm

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Ika: I read SW's ISO in that one and this one and tbh I'm not seeing the similarity. SO is a better vote.
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:27 pm

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In post 593, Something_Smart wrote:Ika: I read SW's ISO in that one and this one and tbh I'm not seeing the similarity. SO is a better vote.


*shrugs*

i disagree. But ok.

and no im keeping ym vote. you can vote me instead if you like
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:49 am

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Aero-I see you posting elsewhere. Are you gonna flake on us?
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:43 am

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Day 2, Votecount 2
Supreme Overlord(3):
Viva La Gloria, SilverWolf, Something_Smart
ika (1):
Supreme Overlord
SilverWolf (1):
ika
Aeronaut (1):
Shinobi

Not Voting (4):
Aristophanes, Aeronaut, Masquerade, SnarkySnowman

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch or to no lynch.

Deadline
: Saturday, February 20, 2016 10:00 am (Texas time)
Countdown to deadline
: (expired on 2016-02-20 10:00:00)




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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:25 am

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In post 589, ika wrote:btw aro is prob sucm too
I always have to clarify when we're both in the game.
Is "Aro" Aero or Ari?

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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:33 am

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Replace out


Sorry, I took on more games than expected again :p

Sorry Texcat! Goodluck everyone
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:44 am

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Ah right. VOTE: Supreme Overlord for L-2

Another friendly reminder.
In post 2, texcat wrote:Voting
11) Bold your entire vote or use the VOTE: tags.
12) Your vote should be at the beginning of a line.
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