Mini 1758: Game Over

Elyse · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:35 pm

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curiouskarmadog · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:38 pm

okay catching up, will post as I read.

at the end of yesterday, didnt like Uptoolate, Loki, SCakes. Had a hard read on SCakes as scum, and the counter wagon off of Cakes onto ika by Elyse (also tictac vote) looked horrible. much worse now we know ika is town. Also had open question to Loki that did not get answered and I guess is moot now.

New day.

Elyse full throttle on SCakes push. (546)
SirCakes full throttle on tictac push (547)
camn votes SC (548)
tictac votes farmer (550)

In post 551, SirCakez wrote:The night kill tracks back to RC I think. Acryon was one of the only people scumreading him.
P-Edit: Is that a scumslip from Farmer?

i approve of nightkill analysis (will do so after I get caught up on today), but why the hell are you interacting with tictac, if you feel tictac is scum? this post looks like you are trying to convince tictac of farmer being scum. furthermore, if you think the night kill points at RC, why are you voting tictac? I dont know, this post screams stretching...for anything. I just dont know if it is scum trying to throw anything at the wall that sticks and you really are scum hunting. actions speak louder than words.

In post 558, camn wrote:I agree tictac.. What do you think about Cakez immediately going after people on the wagon tho?

I also think that wagon is scummy (though for different reasons than SC) am I scummy too?

In post 567, SirCakez wrote:If I was scum and ika was a counterwagon to me, then why did Elyse, someone who was vehemently scumreading me, start that wagon?

right….and when/if you flip scum? I imagine there is your partner.

In post 594, UpTooLate wrote:Other than farmer's potential scumslip and the iffy hammer, I'm not seeing too much that's sticking out atm, but this is interesting:

In post 434, acryon wrote:
Only played once with Elyse and she was scum and it was a long time ago, but in this game she seems to be bullying people into defending themselves, and then acts surprised that they aren't scumhunting. Scumhunting is good. But players with power and confidence can easily steamroll a town into burning down a townie through their tunneling, and it seem like this is what Elyse is doing.

Doing a reread and I think I missed this yesterday. I've had an off feeling about Elyse this whole game, and I was trying to figure out if it was a simple misread of her personality/playstyle or what. But this is exactly what she's doing. I also noticed that she completely ignored this, and switched her vote to Ika, a pretty easy lurker wagon. I'm going to look more into this.

this is actually a good point.

In post 598, tictac wrote:
In post 594, UpTooLate wrote:Other than farmer's potential scumslip and the iffy hammer, I'm not seeing too much that's sticking out atm, but this is interesting:

In post 434, acryon wrote:
Only played once with Elyse and she was scum and it was a long time ago, but in this game she seems to be bullying people into defending themselves, and then acts surprised that they aren't scumhunting. Scumhunting is good. But players with power and confidence can easily steamroll a town into burning down a townie through their tunneling, and it seem like this is what Elyse is doing.

Doing a reread and I think I missed this yesterday. I've had an off feeling about Elyse this whole game, and I was trying to figure out if it was a simple misread of her personality/playstyle or what. But this is exactly what she's doing. I also noticed that she completely ignored this, and switched her vote to Ika, a pretty easy lurker wagon. I'm going to look more into this.

I take objection to misrepping what dead people said.
Quoting the rest of that post.

In post 434, acryon wrote:
This isn't alignment-indicative
, but I think the rest of the town needs to be careful of buying into the confidence as opposed to the case. It's Day 1 people; any person that has an incredible scum-case on a player is lying to you.

he said that though when he didnt know what ika was going to flip

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stopped following votes on SC (note to self: check to see who else voted)

breaking post up so it is not a wall. still reading the rest of today.

Some Random Mafia Player · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:40 pm

In post 666, camn wrote:SRMP..will you please put something up as an avatar? Please?
It is fucking distracting and confusing.

In fact:

ULTIMATUM
: Srmp please put am avatar up, or I am replacing out. Do it today. Please.

got it, now go actually scumhunt imo.

ISO · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:46 pm

I don't see what's wrong with interacting with scumreads. Especially now that I'm less certain of my Tictac scumread.

Some Random Mafia Player · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:49 pm

In post 663, SirCakez wrote:You waited so long to start your pressure though.

Yeah, I waited because there needed to be a few votes first so there would actually be pressure there, if I was a lone vote there would be no pressure.

ISO · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:49 pm

This is just going in circles now.

Some Random Mafia Player · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:51 pm

In post 680, SirCakez wrote:This is just going in circles now.

I noticed that a while ago tbh, felt like letting you figure it out.

Out of curiosity, explain your scumreads on me and RC

ISO · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:54 pm

In post 585, SirCakez wrote:Yeah my RC town read is dead. Way too much sheeping, no pushing any reads, acryon kill makes a ton of sense from scum RC.
I'll do a new reads list soon.

This is why I'm scumreading RC.
Scumreading you because of a general lack of scum hunting and I still don't like your hop on the ika wagon.

Lokiben · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:57 pm

In post 676, curiouskarmadog wrote:okay catching up, will post as I read.

at the end of yesterday, didnt like Uptoolate, Loki, SCakes. Had a hard read on SCakes as scum, and the counter wagon off of Cakes onto ika by Elyse (also tictac vote) looked horrible. much worse now we know ika is town. Also had open question to Loki that did not get answered and I guess is moot now.

I still mean to respond to this.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:59 pm

Mafia Player votes SC

In post 606, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 602, SirCakez wrote:Yeah I think my scumreads are good right now.

seems like you have a problem with me voting you.

Why is that?

what is the purpose of this question?

In post 607, SirCakez wrote:Elyse, SRMP, RC scumteam maybe. Acryon kill points to all three of them. Not sure where tictac fits in there though.
P-Edit: Because you ignored my request for reads and dropped a terrible naked vote.

do you think that the the scum team would all be voting you? Have you ever in the history of you playing saw a scum team vote this way? I am having trouble believing you believe this.

In post 640, Zulfy wrote:TicTac do you think that Elyse's destructive confidence is scum-indicative?

In post 641, Zulfy wrote:
In post 624, Elyse wrote:I'm not afraid it will dissipate. I don't actually expect anyone to hammer (though I wouldn't be opposed to it), I was just expressing how strong my scumread on you is.

Oh wow cake is entirely right.

VOTE: Elyse

what in the second quoted post (and a minute later) made you change your mind on Elyse's confidence being scum-indicative? Literally nothing changed. If you had problems swallowing that during the first quote, how did the second convince you?

In post 649, RadiantCowbells wrote:Elyse may be offended if you label us as a team like I'm her equal.

Please don't use such phrasings.

i got it..stop.

In post 678, SirCakez wrote:I don't see what's wrong with interacting with scumreads. Especially now that I'm less certain of my Tictac scumread.

you werent "less certain" at the time of the interaction. so this is a disingenuous post. you were at the time of the post PUSHING that tictac was scum. but as soon as tictac pushing something (that isnt you) you start testing the waters with him. man...you almost had me that you could be town.

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alright caught up.

I am in agreement with RC, I think the odds of SCakes being scum is good. Back and forth on Elyse being his partner.

that being said, I dont understand the acroyn kill.

going to go back and read yesterday with new knowledge.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:00 pm

Elyse, quick question. is RC town?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:00 pm

In post 685, curiouskarmadog wrote:Elyse, quick question. is RC town?

just a yes, no, dont know is all i need

ISO · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:04 pm

Yeah I've seen scumteams wagon together off site. And that scum team just makes way too much sense to me.
And I already said I interact with scumreads, so that last part makes no sense.

Some Random Mafia Player · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:05 pm

In post 682, SirCakez wrote:I still don't like your hop on the ika wagon.

I dont know if I was paying attention, but we already went through this.

ISO · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:06 pm

Yes we went through it. I didn't like your explanation for it but the argument was going in circles, like you said, so I cut it off.

Some Random Mafia Player · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:07 pm

In post 689, SirCakez wrote:Yes we went through it. I didn't like your explanation for it but the argument was going in circles, like you said, so I cut it off.

why dont you like it? Are you assuming I just came up with it?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:10 pm

In post 687, SirCakez wrote:Yeah I've seen scumteams wagon together off site. And that scum team just makes way too much sense to me.
And I already said I interact with scumreads, so that last part makes no sense.

You: think X is scummy.
X: thinks Y is scummy and vote Y.
You: you then explain why Z is scummy and ask X if Y scum slipped.

If you really believed that X is scummy, why would you value anything X had to say about Y?

it doesnt make sense from someone who is supposedly town, especially in your position.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:12 pm

In post 684, curiouskarmadog wrote:Mafia Player votes SC

In post 606, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 602, SirCakez wrote:Yeah I think my scumreads are good right now.

seems like you have a problem with me voting you.

Why is that?

what is the purpose of this question?

Mafia Player. second request to answer this question.

also, why did you avoid it the first time.

ISO · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:12 pm

SRMP

In post 620, SirCakez wrote:I was going to have to at some point.
Why weren't you pressuring ika at all until a wagon started?

We've already done this dance once.

Some Random Mafia Player · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:13 pm

In post 692, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 684, curiouskarmadog wrote:Mafia Player votes SC

In post 606, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 602, SirCakez wrote:Yeah I think my scumreads are good right now.

seems like you have a problem with me voting you.

Why is that?

what is the purpose of this question?

Mafia Player. second request to answer this question.

also, why did you avoid it the first time.

The purpose of the question was because he seems bothered about my vote on him when there are a bunch of other votes on him and im interested in why he singles mine out specifically.

ISO · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:14 pm

In post 691, curiouskarmadog wrote:
In post 687, SirCakez wrote:Yeah I've seen scumteams wagon together off site. And that scum team just makes way too much sense to me.
And I already said I interact with scumreads, so that last part makes no sense.

You: think X is scummy.
X: thinks Y is scummy and vote Y.
You: you then explain why Z is scummy and ask X if Y scum slipped.

If you really believed that X is scummy, why would you value anything X had to say about Y?

it doesnt make sense from someone who is supposedly town, especially in your position.

I'm not just going to ignore everything someone says judt because I'm scumreading them.

Some Random Mafia Player · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:15 pm

In post 693, SirCakez wrote:SRMP

In post 620, SirCakez wrote:I was going to have to at some point.
Why weren't you pressuring ika at all until a wagon started?

We've already done this dance once.

We have, I told you why I did what I did, if you dont like it then I cant explain otherwise since I already did.

Some Random Mafia Player · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:16 pm

What bothers me is that your calling me scummy for something I cant really argue against.

Elyse · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:17 pm

In post 685, curiouskarmadog wrote:Elyse, quick question. is RC town?

Yes

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:17 pm

In post 694, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:

The purpose of the question was because he seems bothered about my vote on him when there are a bunch of other votes on him and im interested in why he singles mine out specifically.

In post 606, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 602, SirCakez wrote:Yeah I think my scumreads are good right now.

seems like you have a problem with me voting you.

Why is that?

"he singles mine out specifically"

please work me through your line of thinking when SCakes says "me SCUMREADS are good right now" that made you think he was singling you out?