Mini 1758: Game Over

[curiouskarmadog]

LOL

its simple.

i thought RC was dropping crumbs that she was a mason with Elsye. But he just wouldnt stop. So I asked him too.

I was going back and forth if Elyse was scum.

I wasnt sure if RC was actually doing what I thought he was.

so I asked Elsye if RC was town.

if Elyse said "no" or "I dont know", I had decided I was going to vote her.

but she said yes. which I took to mean that they were indeed masons.

I let it go and put them in my town category.


until RC showed up and voted me.

I still think RC is town, but he is being incredibly daft right now.

[SirCakez]

Why would you even dig into those crumbs?
Went back and looked at the posts and I think I get it now.

[curiouskarmadog]

i guess he assumed that I figured out he was a mason with Elyse because I am a role cop? Not the fucking NUMEROUS indications in this game..which is why I asked him to stop.

[RadiantCowbells]

you are either a scum role cop or the single worst player I have ever played with.

either way I am lynching you.

[camn]

Please, CKD. You might have fooled me with that in 2009. But not now.

[curiouskarmadog]

Why would you even dig into those crumbs?
Went back and looked at the posts and I think I get it now.

I didnt really....I asked RC to stop. like a nod, saying I get it already...stop now.

I thought Elyse was scum though...so all I did was ask if RC was town....if my guess was correct, then I was going the wrong way with my Elyse suspicion.

[curiouskarmadog]

Please, CKD. You might have fooled me with that in 2009. But not now.

you still fucking think I soft claimed masons!

why exactly do you think RC is voting me?

[RadiantCowbells]

and now CKD is trying to make sure EVERYONE IN THIS GAME understands that me and Elyse are masons together.

Like I can't imagine how low my opinion of you would be if you were town here.

[curiouskarmadog]

I get why RC is voting me (this is going to come down to a difference of playstyles that I really want to discuss end game)...

but you (camn) have no clue why you are voting me.

explain EXACTLY your vote, and why you are voting me. I dont believe for a second you think I softclaimed masons.

[RadiantCowbells]

no I'm not going to discuss shit with you.

if you are town I'm going to policy lynch you in our future games.

if you're scum then wpish but bye.

[curiouskarmadog]

and now CKD is trying to make sure EVERYONE IN THIS GAME understands that me and Elyse are masons together.

Like I can't imagine how low my opinion of you would be if you were town here.

well now I feelings are hurt....I am being sort of serious here.

you do see where I asked you stop crumbing right? my problem now, is I get angry easily. it is now a principle thing. if I knew you were a fucking mason as scum, why the fuck WOULD I BRING IT UP HERE? you are not thinking it out. I asked you to stop and confirmed my guess with Elyse, so I knew to leave it alone. YOU are the fucking one to bring it back up.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: ckd
Yeah that's enough for me.
I have to reevaluate my reads.

[RadiantCowbells]

you think you're angry right now

I'll show you fucking angry.

[curiouskarmadog]

[RadiantCowbells]

you publicly outed two people whom you believed to be masons.

that's beyond unacceptable if you are town so I'm assuming that you are scum because I am not of the opinion that you are a stupid shit.

maybe I'm wrong.

[curiouskarmadog]

you publicly outed two people whom you believed to be masons.

show me where I outed anybody BEFORE you voted me.

[RadiantCowbells]

who gives a shit whether you voted me?

is your response when someone you think is a mason votes you to yell HEY EVERYTHING THESE GUYS ARE PROBABLY MASONS?

[curiouskarmadog]

who gives a shit whether you voted me?

is your response when someone you think is a mason votes you to yell HEY EVERYTHING THESE GUYS ARE PROBABLY MASONS?

I didnt vote you.

that is not exactly what happened.

i was trying to explain to you why you were wrong.

[RadiantCowbells]

like no.
if you were town you'd stop arguing because all you're doing is hurting town at this point.
you chose to not only make yourself a guaranteed lynch but to also out as many town PRs as you could on the way.

whether you're scum or not is immaterial after your play this day.

i was trying to explain to you why you were wrong.

there's a billion ways to do that that don't fucking require you to announce to the game that you think people are masons.
again, if you're town you'd shut the fuck up because you've done enough damage already.

[RadiantCowbells]

like don't argue that you're town at this point; I literally don't care if you're town or not after today.

[curiouskarmadog]

i thought you didnt understand what I did (I guess you still dont), I tried to explain it.

i was getting frustrated.

It is one thing when someone who is scum is attacking you. it is another when someone who you think is town is attacking you. I tried to explain it without saying anything. but you just kept at it. I was like "why is he not getting it?"...."I am town and I know he is town, why wont he just go back a read what I said when I said it". I got more and more angry.

fuck

yeah, I guess you are ultimately right.

I should have just taken to vote and not said anything. I guess it was the principle of the vote...

ugh.

whatever.

Guess I am mostly embarrassed and tried to save face(?). I am town, but I get it at this point....policy...

[a plain farmer]

UNVOTE:

Welp, we have two weeks until the deadline. I say we go for a picnic.

And yes I am for lynching CKD. I thought he might have been a townie who made a blunder, but I have a hard time imagining a townie defending himself from these allegations by implying that RC's vote for him left him no recourse.


@ RC:
I have a couple questions for you:

I have a confirmed scum on camn.

Why is camn "confirmed" scum?

This is not how I feel like Town!Sircakez would react to being brought up so abruptly.

I've seen you and others on this site use this ! notation. How is this used?

[a plain farmer]

Here I respond to tictac, put in spoiler due to size:

Spoiler: Re: my rigorous meta research methodology

I began by clicking on the link to ika's threads in his profile to find games he was in.

You didn't include machina mafia, minis 1737 or 1734 (first 3 marked completed games on Ikas history. Possible some of those were only recently marked completed, but I doubt all of them were.)

There were a lot of threads that weren't game threads, so I changed the filter so that it organized posts by forum. However, I couldn't sort by date with this filter,

Blitz games come up first, but ok. I would have discarded those, if I was attempting what you say you tried.
You didn't include White Flag Mafia[TM2015](first actual game that comes up).. lots of threads that aren't main game threads come up first, I would have abandoned this approach too.
However it does seem to be sub-sorting by date by default. Weird that is your gripe with it.

There might've been some I skipped. I think I only pulled one or two of the example games using this search method before I went to start looking in the game subforums. And, yes, I did ignore blitz games, since lurking in a blitz game is not precisely the same behavior as lurking in a non-blitz game.

and I was more interested in recent games, so I instead just looked in the game forums themselves for games ika was in.

But you apparently didn't look at completed games subforum of little italy.(didn't include minis 1707,1734,1737)
Which forums did you check? I'm trying to re-create your experience here, to see if it makes sense. As much detail as you can give will be useful.

I know I looked in either (maybe both) of Little Italy and Coney Island. The Mini 1758 is actually one of the games from those forums. I can't remember anything about it beyond what I've said so far.

Those are the games I found, and he seems to disproportionately prefer Opens. "Mini 1758" is apparently a malapropism for the Mini I found, I can't remember which.

Malaprotism does not sufficiently explain the inclusion of this game to me, since "1758" isn't a word.
I will confirm that the games you listed as having town-Ika did, and ones you listed as having a scum-Ika did.

It may not be a malapropism, but the same cognitive malfunction that's behind malapropisms is probably behind this. If you're wondering how the number "1758" got in my mind, that's probably because that number is at the top of the page in the thread title as I type these responses.

@ SRMP

Interested in discussion on this scumslip by farmer up here, especially an explanation from him.

"Mini 1758" was included in that list as a typo, probably resulting from a malapropism. For further articulation of this theory, see the last part of the spoilered text above.


On UTL's 594: The way she had phrased it also made me think that she had a scumread on Elyse, and she probably should've anticipated that we would have understood it as such. However, I'm not sure this is alignment indicative (maybe a slight scumtell?), and the point acryon was making in the quoted portion is a valid one.

[a plain farmer]

RC seems like a townie who's been told that if he's NK'ed he'd be killed in real life, too.

Not at all how'd you get this?

I said this at the time because RC had given a few good reads and votes, and though most of his posts were joke posts, I didn't see them as coming from a scum perspective or hindering town.

Zulfy tripped my alarms early but hasn't made me suspect him since.

Indicate where I did so

This was what I mentioned in post 50 about the possible quicklynch testing.

[Zulfy]

what in the second quoted post (and a minute later) made you change your mind on Elyse's confidence being scum-indicative? Literally nothing changed. If you had problems swallowing that during the first quote, how did the second convince you?

?? You are reading a tone that isnt there. Im not disgreeing with the assertion, literally just asking a question to gauge the person's motivations.