SAGA FRONTIER MAFIA (GAME END)

[ZZZX]

Guys ABR is crying right now at the lack of skybird votes.

I have been weeping for the lack of DGB votes as well. But noone cares about a ZZZX's feelings.

[Sensei]

Though the fact that DS waa ascetic kinda sorta is a favorable thing for you?

Not really?
Seems more scummy if anything.
Also it feels like she's putting off full claiming.

[Fluminator]

Pedit: I'd like to hear the actual case against sky that ABR asked for, since this kinda happened while I was asleep. I'll be around to vote as necessary if wgeurts vote didn't count.

I'm on mobile right now with data, but you should iso me and search for sky in it. You'll see a consistent barrage of scummy sky posts across the whole game.

[ZZZX]

Also I am borderline on just copping DGB right now... But I still find RCing Shiro to be the right thing.

[Sensei]

She claimed ascetic.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

Though the fact that DS waa ascetic kinda sorta is a favorable thing for you?

Not really?
Seems more scummy if anything.
Also it feels like she's putting off full claiming.

Well, normally I'd feel an ascetic who never friggin claimed is super scummy which DS was), but...more than one ascetic scum? I don't know how I feel about that. It's like multiple godfathers on the scum team in an investigative heavy game. Obviously that wouldn't get claimed by them, but it feels off.

Her claim is terrible though. Just look at the list of roles ABR compiled. The weakest one there is the every night commuter, which is imo a good bit stronger than just ascetic.

This worries me, because I just read her fucking iso, and if doing so gave me the wrong answer, it means I'm not analyzing things properly.
-Cerb

[Sensei]

It's not like they're both on the same faction, though.
I mean. Don't really want to keep trying to outguess varsoon here. But DBG's play here hasn't been stellar.
And just a plain ascetic doesn't sound right.
Plus we've already got a miller.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

Yeah. It's certainly the second most ineffective slot, after zulfy. The real problem for me is I have absolutely no experience with DGB. Some people just play like this, and withiut the meta knowledge (as much as I hate it) it's practically impossible to read them just by day play, since it's been so infrequent and unfocused (other than wanting to lynch kc and zzzx).

-Cerb

[Sensei]

What if I told you that Z and kling were both probs town?

[The Cool Cucumbers]

What if I told you that Z and kling were both probs town?

That fits with my feelings on zzzx, and what I remember of my super old and need to be updated feelings about KC, and yes, also does look bad for DGB.

1-10 how certain are you that DGB is scum? I was like a 8 two days ago, read her iso and dropped to a 3, now I'm back up to 7+. :/

-Cerb

[Drunken Pirates]

I agree with yoyo that zulfy shld use his fists on cuke pple and we shld not lynch sky until he does that.

I guess sky hasn't come back yet? abr raised a cple of decent points.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

I agree with yoyo that zulfy shld use his fists on cuke pple and we shld not lynch sky until he does that.

I guess sky hasn't come back yet? abr raised a cple of decent points.

You mean you agree with us, because it was our plan. :p What did abr and Yos say to convince you dgb wasn't scum?

-Cerb

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynch Sky.

[Yosarian2]

I will vote sky once zulfy roleblocks tcc.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

I will vote sky once zulfy roleblocks tcc.

Exactly. If wgeurts earlier vote didn't count(I'm curious, so just waiting to see a vc), I'll vote then as well.

Do we want to give Fluminator the hammer?

-Cerb

[Yosarian2]

I will vote sky once zulfy roleblocks tcc.

Exactly. If wgeurts earlier vote didn't count(I'm curious, so just waiting to see a vc), I'll vote then as well.

Do we want to give Fluminator the hammer?

-Cerb

Not especally. If everyone is telling the truth, then it doesnt matter while Lowell is alive.

[Fluminator]

Why not Yos?

[Fluminator]

If you're not scum reading me, there's no reason not to. You freaked out when someone not scum reading you wasn't necessarily giving you the rings.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

I think you might be misunderstanding his power Yosarian.

He gains soul powers from hammers
He has a 1-shot bulletproof.
His 1-shot bulletproof refills when he uses a power he gained from a hammer.

Is that accurate Flum?

So, if we think he's town, then it *does* make sense to give him the hammer. If we don't think he's town, then obviously we shouldn't give him the hammer.

Also, unrelated, but yosarian, if you aren't going to have a use for whatever that ring gave you, it's probably optimal to give it back to sensei to hold on to. He's a safe place to keep it because he can't die, and he can always trade it back to you when you need it. There's the issue that scum will know you specifically asked for it on a certain day, but unless you're positive scum can't use them for anything, it's better to not risk scum killing you and getting them from your body.

-Cerb

[Fluminator]

UNVOTE:
Yes, not giving me the hammer if the same as keeping away a new town utility. It's not about the bullet proof.

[Yosarian2]

UNVOTE:
Yes, not giving me the hammer if the same as keeping away a new town utility. It's not about the bullet proof.

I'm confused.

You claimed the hammer only gives you a replacement bulletproof.

If you're telling the truth here the i don't think that gives the town any real utility at this point.

Is there something more your hammer does?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Were not giving Flum the hammer today as we dont know what ability is gained. Please revote Skybird.

[Yosarian2]

I think you might be misunderstanding his power Yosarian.

He gains soul powers from hammers
He has a 1-shot bulletproof.
His 1-shot bulletproof refills when he uses a power he gained from a hammer.

Is that accurate Flum?

So, if we think he's town, then it *does* make sense to give him the hammer. If we don't think he's town, then obviously we shouldn't give him the hammer.

Also, unrelated, but yosarian, if you aren't going to have a use for whatever that ring gave you, it's probably optimal to give it back to sensei to hold on to. He's a safe place to keep it because he can't die, and he can always trade it back to you when you need it. There's the issue that scum will know you specifically asked for it on a certain day, but unless you're positive scum can't use them for anything, it's better to not risk scum killing you and getting them from your body.

-Cerb

My role clearly says that nobody but me can use the rings.

It's not totally worthless., but it'd only be useful in very specific situations.

[Fluminator]

Read my claim again Yos.
And no ABR. There's no reason to not give me another one shot unless you believe I'm scum. I can claim it tomorrow.

[Zulfy]

Klingoncelt - Double voter
The Cool Cucumbers (wgeurts & cerberus v666) - Third Party Tree Stumper
Drunken Pirates (Titus & Pirate Mollie) - Becomes indestructable with 10 players left
Drixx - Starts as MC
Zulfy - Access to first fist technique (maybe)
Rylai and Lina (Shiro & Frozen Angel) - Miller
Skybird - RB Hater
Albert B. Rampage - Doctor
DrippingGoofball - Unknown weak ability
Yosarian2 - Unknown weak abilities when collecting rings
Lowkey (Lowell & Hinduragi) - Unknown weak ability
Fluminator - Gains abilities when hammering
Sensei - Double votes two players at once
ZZZX - 1-shot rolecop, 1-shot watcher

CooLDoG - Starts with first Sword Technique, 1-shot doctor, later gains vote freeze, roleblock, triple voter, day vig
ErrantParabola - Commuter
MaxwellPuckett - 1-shot Unlynchable, later gains Unblockable Strongman and 5-person Roleblocker
Diamond Sentinel - Unlynchable Night Ascetic Serial Killer
Gale Wing Srock - Roleblocker & Permanent Hater
Itlepip - Roleblocker & Temporary Hater, later gained non-consecutive cycle day/night kill
Spifflop - Can gain double vote, scumkill, mass town/party bulletproof, reflexive kill if blocked or targeted to be killed

Thanks

Everyone keep your votes still so I can make sense on what I'ma do.

This is my last day alive