SAGA FRONTIER MAFIA (GAME END)

[ZZZX]

Bah! Go town.

[Fluminator]

Sky, you did it on the claimed astetic? Does that even work?

[Yosarian2]

Sensei why? You literally destroyed the point of losing a day to go to Nelson.

You could have at least warned us about it.

Yeah, that's a really, really bizzare move; Sensei just made all us waste the entire adventure.

[Yosarian2]

vote:DGB

DGB, we need a full claim from you. now. Also we need to know if you are temporarily hated now.

[Drunken Pirates]

I came in here wanting to vote dgb but that nk...that does not look like a dgb nk in any way shape or form. it looks like a newbscum trying to frame dgb. I'd say 2014 or some1 pretty young.

eta: @ yoyo - but does that honestly look like a dgb nk to you? I agree that dgb needs to claim tho.

[Zulfy]

I blocked DGB and now permanently take one less vote to be lynched.

You or him? Why was my hate temporary?

[Yosarian2]

I came in here wanting to vote dgb but that nk...that does not look like a dgb nk in any way shape or form. it looks like a newbscum trying to frame dgb. I'd say 2014 or some1 pretty young.

eta: @ yoyo - but does that honestly look like a dgb nk to you? I agree that dgb needs to claim tho.

That's a fair point.

Still, I think we need a full claim and an explanation from DGB before we can move on, don't you? If nothing else we need a claim from her so people stop bumping into her and getting zapped.

(It's also possible that zyyy was killed by someone else, and that DGB's group failed to kill because DGB was roleblocked. Although I'm not sure why anyone would kill zyyy right now.)

[Yosarian2]

I blocked DGB and now permanently take one less vote to be lynched.

You or him? Why was my hate temporary?

Everyone who targeted DGB seems to have gotten perm-hated. I also got perm hated, which probably means I was targeted by Gale.

Itlepip's role did a roleblock plus a temp-hatred. Sky claims her role does that as well.

[Zulfy]

I think FIRE might not be a player at all.

Are there any wildfires or something that happen in saga frontier?

[The Cool Cucumbers]

I blocked DGB and now permanently take one less vote to be lynched.

You or him? Why was my hate temporary?

Your hate was temporary because it came from itlepip targeting you with his power, not from whatever this apparent ability dgb has does.

And yes, it is perfectly reasonable that scum got lucky before, and knowing our suspicions, are now framing skybird/dgb....which is kinda why I didn't want anyone to target DGB, OR have multiple people target her, since either of those would have confirmed that she was the source of the hated modifiers, or that she wasn't.

The NK is perfectly reasonable, scum knew the claimed doctor had his powers turned off, and they knew that zzzx had claimed to be planning a night action that threatened to conftown two slots, or catch them if shiro is scum, in addition to having an outright cop investigation and 2 other weaker investigative powers.

If town currently has no idea or suspicions about the last scum, then it makes sense to both deny us that information from zzzx, AND remove the risk of auto losing to an investigation.

Also, let's make sure we have a mc selected before we accidentally lynch dgb with no mc or an mc selected because of one vote.

-Cerb

Pedit: Zulfy, fire was almost certainly initiated by a player. The move to you DOES seem to have been automatic, given that you did not have it on you prior to vc 3.09.

[Yosarian2]

I came in here wanting to vote dgb but that nk...that does not look like a dgb nk in any way shape or form. it looks like a newbscum trying to frame dgb. I'd say 2014 or some1 pretty young.

eta: @ yoyo - but does that honestly look like a dgb nk to you? I agree that dgb needs to claim tho.

That's a fair point.

Still, I think we need a full claim and an explanation from DGB before we can move on, don't you? If nothing else we need a claim from her so people stop bumping into her and getting zapped.

(It's also possible that zyyy was killed by someone else, and that DGB's group failed to kill because DGB was roleblocked. Although I'm not sure why anyone would kill zyyy right now.)

Follow up - actually, people wouldn't kill zyyy to frame DGB. Zyyy was about to rolecop Shiro when he died. So either they were trying to frame her, or they just didn't want Shiro to be confirmed (in the process confirming Sensei and semi-confirming Zulfy), or else Shiro killed him to stop the investigation.

[Sensei]

Sensei why? You literally destroyed the point of losing a day to go to Nelson.

You could have at least warned us about it.

Yeah, that's a really, really bizzare move; Sensei just made all us waste the entire adventure.

You can trade your gold ya know and probably will have ya'll do that eventually.

[Sensei]

I came in here wanting to vote dgb but that nk...that does not look like a dgb nk in any way shape or form. it looks like a newbscum trying to frame dgb. I'd say 2014 or some1 pretty young.

eta: @ yoyo - but does that honestly look like a dgb nk to you? I agree that dgb needs to claim tho.

Yea the claimed cop probably died for wifom.

lol

[Sensei]

Bah! Go town.

Tried to get ya on one adventure mate. Those bastards took ya a bit too fast.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

Sensei, did you not believe ABR about the vitality rune, did you not think removing those debuts waa worth it, or did you have some other reason for going to Nelson, one which outweighed the de buff thing? Or some combination?

-Cerb

[Sensei]

I thought either ABR or Yos would die for certain.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

Perhaps they would have, if you had gone to koorong....hmm.

-Cerb

[Sensei]

Plus I wanted to give my other townreads some attention. We were getting to be a circle jerk and that's bad for business.

[Sensei]

Perhaps they would have, if you had gone to koorong....hmm.

-Cerb

There's gonna be more Night phases this game. Trust me.
DGB should die today.
Scumflip there means sky's probs town too I guess. Wouldn't bet the game on that, though.
Townflip means sky needs death asap.
Not sure where to go from there. But those are my thoughts atm.

[Fluminator]

I must be missing something because I have no idea where the DGB suspicion came from.
I'm more confused that Sky claimed to make DGB permanently hated when she said her role is the same as Pip's and got Varsoon to clear it up.

I've actually been informed that my hate is not permanent. I misunderstood what the mod said when I asked about it.

[Sensei]

Everyone who has claimed to target her has also claimed they're perma-hated. She claimed ascetic and was asked to fullclaim and hasn't posted since.

[Fluminator]

Ooooohhhh. That's what sky meant.

[Sensei]

I'm not sure why skybird decided to roleblock DGB, though. Now that you mention it because there was better people to block that we told her to. So it does kinda smell like a last minute gambit type thing to try and buy sky some townpoints. But meh.

[The Cool Cucumbers]

I have some thoughts as to why Skybird may have attempted to RB DGB, but I'd like to hear her explanation before I give her any ideas.

Flum, I know my iso is long, but if you just search for DGB in posts that happened after the gladiate yesterday, you'll see me outlining the DGB situation.

-Cerb

[Fluminator]

Yeah, it makes more sense now. Both Zzzx and Shiro targeted her and got hated.