Shaman Mafia [Endgame]

[Brian Skies]

Would anyone like to confirm me for the ritual?

[TellTaleHeart]

I didn't really want to have to claim, but I supposed with the deadline coming up I must.

I'm a town power animal, the Hound. My ability is that I can check the alignment of someone once in the game, but it's dependent on the Upper World-Middle World-Lower World mechanic and it involves making a separate QT thread with my target (which is why I really wasn't fazed by having two QT links sent to me last night). This is part of the reason why I tried to not leave that much of a trace about where I was at night unless I felt it was necessary. In my role PM, my ability is flavored as me looking for a friend or discovering an enemy (paraphrased, of course).

Since I knew I wouldn't get nightkilled, I've been saving my ability for the smallest pool of players possible. I tried to be as transparent about my reads during the day as I could to avoid getting lynched but I guess I overestimated that.

[AngryPidgeon]

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[AngryPidgeon]

If you accept that two scum remain, TTH's role doesn't change it.

8 players- 2 scum = 6 town

If you accept Hito and myself as town,

6 town - 2 power animals = 4 shaman

There are 5 shaman slots on the ritual. 4 isn't enough.

Someone speculated that there may be Mafia Shaman in the game. That actually makes a fair amount of sense to me. Who all is a claimed shaman at this point? I'm losing track and I apologize for that. I know Brian and I are. I think Copper, Spiffeh, and UA are as well? TTH, you and Hito have claimed animals at this point. If you are town and the claims are all accurate then that would make TTH and Hito scum since otherwise its impossible to pass the mission. It is possible that the ritual is 100% guaranteed to fail but we still get to attempt it anyways. It might give motivation for scum to target Shaman rather than Power Animals in order to reach that state.

That is my objective thoughts on this right now. Let me context switch and talk about speculation. You are unquestionably town. Town enough that I'd follow you to mordor and back. You, TTH, and Hito have claimed power animal. If both Hito and TTH are scum, then we have 5 town Shaman and 2 scum fakeclaiming power animal. This is where the theory about Mafia Shaman feels right. If there is one alive then we could still pass the ritual by getting them on it and they could be reluctant to help. That would mean that one of Hito/TTH is lying about being an animal and there is likely someone on the ritual who is scum and lying about being a shaman.

So I am prepared to vote Hito with you and never look back. I actually kind of think its Hito +spiff/UA after typing this all out.

[AngryPidgeon]

TTH is still town.

Its rare that both the emotional extravert half of me and the calculating introvert are in complete agreement but right now they are and TTH is town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Seriously shame on all of you if we lynch TTh today. I could have done a better job of defending her earlier and I'm certainly no paragon of townplay this game.

Brian and Copper get your fucking shit together. You are both pretty clearly town. Toogeloo dying suggests it and both of you are just transparently town anyways.

Spiffeh I still have some reservations about due to his general disconnectedness with the game and his opinions on Staeg/Yakko. My gut is currently leaning towards a Hito/UA team though as much as I don't want to have to be responsible for pushing cases on those two.

Really though as long as we never lynch Egg, TTH, Brian and Copper we win. Of those I have the most paranoia about Copper but really its not there. Its just we win if we make some good fucking lynches today. Good lynches being people outside of that group.

VOTE: Hito

Lets actually lynch Hito instead of letting him troll through the game with all that red oozing out of his posts. Fucks sake guys.

[AngryPidgeon]

And no Im not compromising on TTH for the deadline. I'm raising the bar for townplay right now.

[Spiffeh]

AP if you think the ritual is a soft alignment check how do you justify TTH claim to have one as well?

I don't really buy the claim

[AngryPidgeon]

Would anyone like to confirm me for the ritual?

No. Because scum are on it and its going to fail.

Unless you want to lynch Hito with me, then I'll do it I guess but it still wont matter.

[AngryPidgeon]

That claim is so freaking town that my body can't decide whether to laugh or what right now.

Seriously my bad about Yakko. But TTH is town and that is a fact.

[Spiffeh]

That really doesn't do it for me

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[copper223]

@TTH
That kind of makes sense, I knew there was something off about your play this game... I still need answers to 1408 though.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hmmm. Well thats disappointing.

I want my way tomorrow if TTH flips town.

If TTH is scum I'll self-vote my way out of the game.

[AngryPidgeon]

But literally every single aspect of TTH's play has been town. Especially the claim.

[Fate]

I didn't abandon you guys I swear

[copper223]

I was worried about why there was no hint of a CW if TTH was scum, this looked a lot like Staeg yesterday up to the claim, Spiffeh's reaction is interesting as well.

[TellTaleHeart]

@TTH
That kind of makes sense, I knew there was something off about your play this game... I still need answers to 1408 though.

One of the QTs had Spiffeh, Staeg, Katsuki, and Toogeloo. That QT is only a page long and doesn't say much outside of a short exchange between Katsuki and Spiffeh. The other QT had Staeg, Katsuki, camn, and Toogeloo. All they talked about was what happened in the Upper World the previous night. Apparently, Katsuki thinks they actually got lynched there? I'm not sure since I wasn't in the Upper World on night 1.

[Spiffeh]

The one I was in had Spiffeh Staeg Katsuki Toogeloo and camn

And Egg!

[TellTaleHeart]

Yes, my mistake, I missed Egg.

[copper223]

All they talked about was what happened in the Upper World the previous night. Apparently, Katsuki thinks they actually got lynched there? I'm not sure since I wasn't in the Upper World on night 1

This one has to be fake, Katsuki was not present in the N1 upper world thread and we couldn't lynch anyone.

[Spiffeh]

copper did you not read my account of what happened in the Middle World?

[copper223]

@Spiffeh
Yes, you said something similar but now we have 2 sources to compare and I don't know how much TTH has actually followed and how much she has lurked.

Did you both choose to travel to the middle world during the D2 twilight?

[TellTaleHeart]

Yes

[Spiffeh]

I did

[Brian Skies]

Would anyone like to confirm me for the ritual?

No. Because scum are on it and its going to fail.

Unless you want to lynch Hito with me, then I'll do it I guess but it still wont matter.

If you don't want to confirm me, then you might as well just lynch me. I'm the only one that's not confirmed, so it's dependant on what your read on me is. "Scum are on it and it's going to fail anyway" isn't a good reason to deny a townread access to the ritual and whatever powers that may become of it.