Micro 583: Kids With Guns (Game Over)

[NinoMasaki]

Bill and Gompers get townie points for the reaction test... It is kind of mean but I don't see why scum will try to attract attention like this on page 1.

[Bill and Gompers]

I'm not trying to sweet talk you. If anything I'm trying to teach you something.

Consider the town motivation of my actions for a bit, then see if it makes sense. I hold nothing against agressivness. If you really do think I'm scum care to explain why I am scum?

This will help you walk yourself through your logic and helps others read your thoughts.

@Xtoxm:
I'm afraid I can't answer that due to site rules but rest assured it is not a trust-tell, definitely don't town read me for doing this thing as it may bite you later. (I know this sounds like I'm avoiding an answer but I want to uphold site rules as I as a person dislike trust-tells). All I'm saying is that I've done it a lot recently as town in the games I can provide. I often have to include this disclaimer as site-meta scum reads this kind of play for some odd reason.
~wgeurts

[Bill and Gompers]

What is a fact that I can answer within site rules though is that all my games I have done it so far I've flipped town. But I've not drawn scum since I started so hey.
~wgeurts

[KainTepes]

Because obviously you were trying to get me to reveal my role??? Only scum will want a town to claim on Day 1!!

NinoMNasaki is Bill and Gompers scummate PROBABLY! VOTE: NINOMASAKI

[Bill and Gompers]

I don't want you to claim, that would be detrimental to the Town. It's good that you know not to claim though.

Also as me wanting to help out newer players take this advice: figuring out who someone's scum partner is isn't good before someone has actually flipped scum. Otherwise you are basing an assumption on an assumption which makes a shaky foundation indeed.
~wgeurts

[KainTepes]

THEN VOTE: BILL AND GOMPERS

[Bill and Gompers]

That's an improvement I guess.

Now think whether it's more likely that I as town just wanted to speed up the game while generating some possible content or me trying to role-fish. Does it make sense for me to so blatantly role-fish? Wouldn't you expect scum to take more caution?

[KainTepes]

Or maybe thats just what you WANT me to think?? But I am very aggressive player, will not back off just because of that!!

[shaddowez]

VC 1.1

We all know how much fun kindergarten is - recess, naps, snack time, legos, guns...GUNS!?!? Who let these kids play with guns? At least they're just playing, right?

Well, that's what the teachers think. The students know better though...a couple of the kids are trying to take over the class. The problem is, they're kids. Everybody just keeps pointing fingers at each other, blowing raspberries, and calling each other names.

It's up to the class to sort this out, though. The kids have begun discussing who to put in time out first, and hope to sort this out before they lose their milk and cookies.

Maestro

- Persivul

Persivul

- NinoMasaki

NinoMasaki

- Bill and Gompers

Not_Mafia

- Xtoxm

Bill and Gompers

- KainTepes

Not Voting

- Not_Mafia, lovelygiant, Maestro

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is in (expired on 2016-03-03 14:30:00)

[Bill and Gompers]

Or maybe thats just what you WANT me to think?? But I am very aggressive player, will not back off just because of that!!

I'll give you a guide I think you'll like.

[KainTepes]

Where??? What guide?

[Bill and Gompers]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... em_Lynched
There it is.

Anyway, I guess I'll have to prove I'm town through play then. This game wouldn't be fun without a challenge though.
~wgeurts

[KainTepes]

OK... you have a point...!! I will think about it more

UNVOTE

[KainTepes]

UNVOTE[/vote]

[KainTepes]

UNVOTE

[Bill and Gompers]

Hi everyone! Aero here! I'm super excited to be Hydra-ing with Wgeurts this game, and this playerlist looks pretty interesting in general so fun-fun.

I'll likely be a bit less active on weekends, but during the week I should be fine. Excitement!

Vig: KainTepes

Might as well do this now.
*fingers crossed that I hit scum and get globally town read as a result*
~wgeurts

HahahahaHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHA

WHY???????????????????
DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING??????
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!!

This reaction seems strange to me, actually.

And this people is why you should always read the setup first otherwise heartless people like me will use you.
The vig in this setup is a night-action Kain. Also I would never just lol-shoot someone randomly like that.

Kain can be weakly town for that, guess the reaction could be fake but I like doing this to newbies as

I'm a Sadist

they tend to not realise what is happening making the response more genuine.
~wgeurts

I'm so proud; people really do do this sometimes though if they're a dayvig, unfortunately.

What?? Don't try to sweet-talk me, you scum!! EVERYONE VOTE FOR BILL AND ROMPERS!!

I am a VERY AGGRESSIVE player, I will not let you get away just because you pretend to town read me!!

This is where Wgeurts and I differ a bit; this particular post doesn't come off as genuine to me, especially the last sentence. It's almost as if he's

trying

to be an aggressive player, and making sure we all know it.

Because obviously you were trying to get me to reveal my role??? Only scum will want a town to claim on Day 1!!

NinoMNasaki is Bill and Gompers scummate PROBABLY! VOTE: NINOMASAKI

Who are you

Or maybe thats just what you WANT me to think?? But I am very aggressive player, will not back off just because of that!!

Again with the "I'm in AGGRESSIVE PLAYER LOOK AT ME"

Will talk to Wg about it, but I'm not feeling super good about Kain. NinoMasaki's logic makes sense to me right now, but I'm likely baised because they're calling us town, so I know they're right.

Will post more tonight I think; going to go see Hail, Caesar! Will post a full movie review in-thread when I return.


--Aero

[KainTepes]

What do you mean Who Are You??

[Bill and Gompers]

What do you mean Who Are You??

Here, I've created a strawpoll for you to better answer this question

http://strawpoll.me/6855382


--- Aero

[KainTepes]

I answered the poll... Is it important??

[Xtoxm]

I think the fact KT was comfortable replying to it at all so quickly is a good town indication, and he's a new player afaik.

I especially like how wgeurts felt the need to preemptively defend himself against trust telling.

[KainTepes]

What is trust telling??

[Persivul]

This isn't a newbie game. Not liking gurts playing the teacher role. Seems like a way to get town cred without actually scum hunting.

VOTE: B and G

[Xtoxm]

Saying "I only do X as town"; for example "I only claim VT on D1 as town" or "I only replace out of games as town, remember that for next time".

@KT

[KainTepes]

Why Bill and Gompers say I am slightly townie then SUDDENLY say I am pretending aggressive?? Jumping opinions around is very suspicious, happy with my vote

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: BAG