Mini 1768: Detective Conan Mafia (Game Over: Town Wins)

[Phoenix Wright]

So he made this post

*one

UNVOTE:
Yea I was getting inexperienced vibes but I thought you where an alt.
If you have only played 1 other game of mafia you are towny af because of your confidence.
~Bee

I have like 3-4 months of experience after you take away my break periods

He didn't mention or talk to me again after that, but then out of nowhere he suddenly has a scumread on me again out of nowhere after more people say they're suspicious of me

*one

UNVOTE:
Yea I was getting inexperienced vibes but I thought you where an alt.
If you have only played 1 other game of mafia you are towny af because of your confidence.
~Bee

I have like 3-4 months of experience after you take away my break periods

Heeeyyyaaa kirro here.

Just want to apologise for the inconsistencies, because bee and I tend to have quite different reads and I'm not particularly convinced about some of his.

With that said, however, PW, I asked you whether you continue to scumread Garmr/Soren particularly because neither of them have actually posted much. From simply just a couple of Garmr v Soren posts, you immediately eliminated the possibility of both of them being town. Now, why is that? I don't see any kind of town motivation for jumping to such a fixed conclusion. At least, it's not the kind of conclusion I'd expect for you to continue to have a page later, once more people have started talking.

On the other hand, I think scum has plenty of motivation to doubtcast 2 players from the very beginning to shift what other players tend to concentrate on, either to shift the focus from themselves and their scumbuddies (if said 2 players were town), or to distance (if one of those 2 players were scum). I can't think of any town motivation to do that, but plenty of scum ones.

So I want to explain yourself, PW. If you already did (I've only read till page 7 so far since I'm at break atm) then I'm sorry but please direct me to what you said. I'm not particularly fond of your slot atm.

~ kirro

[Phoenix Wright]

Accidentally quoted that first post twice

[Turtles of Despair]

I am in the process of convincing Kirro you are town, we have different reads on you.

56: Here I was trying to sort my read on you because I said you where giving me bad pings which is the only logical thing to do.

73: Kain has literally only called you scum all game.

[Turtles of Despair]

What part of any of that is scummy?

~Bee

[Phoenix Wright]

I've told you why 56 is dumb multiple times already, so I'm not going to write it out again. And when you're on the 3rd page of a game, it just seems weird to me that you'd already expect someone to have their reads ready. So it felt like you were asking a question just to look townie for asking a question.

[Turtles of Despair]

I've told you why 56 is dumb multiple times already, so I'm not going to write it out again. And when you're on the 3rd page of a game, it just seems weird to me that you'd already expect someone to have their reads ready. So it felt like you were asking a question just to look townie for asking a question.

I didn't expect you to have all of your reads ready. I wanted to get an idea of who you thought was scum/town based on the opening posts and it is fair to expect someone to have some idea of people's alignment on the 3rd page. I wasn't asking for you to make a giant wall post explaining why someone was scum I just wanted to know what you where thinking about at the time. I declared I had bad pings coming from your slot which means that I think you could be scum but I was not 100% sure so I requested more content, it isn't alignment indicative at all.

~Bee

[Phoenix Wright]

When I said have you reads ready I was talking about post 73.

[Phoenix Wright]

*your

[Turtles of Despair]

When I said have you reads ready I was talking about post 73.

The same reason I wanted more content from you is why I expected more out of Kain because I expect more out of a slot. In Kain's case he has literally only had 1 scum read all game with no other interaction.
~Bee

[Radical Rat]

There be lots o' hedghog-like pirates on this voyage, so I'll be more clear:

VOTE: Rat who be thinkin' he's radical because the scurvy 'as settled deep in his brains

May I ask why? If it's the inactivity, that's because this level of activity is unprecedented in my severely limited experience( Two Newbie games here, and one Newbie one Theme on SmashBoards )

Gamr, lets talk about our mason chat.
Why aren't you talking in it?

Also, why are you feeling so townie to me?

This seems strange to me. As I understand it, the mason chat is a chat where everyone is Town and can communicate. A sort of Town Mafia, so to speak. Why would you need to question the towniness of a fellow Mason outside a bastard game? Or am I wrong on that point?

[A Real Scourge]

yeah, that post was weird to me as well, Sonic! or Rat, if you prefer. it kind of looked like.. a joke? i'm not sure. hopefully it's explained.

i've liked what Rat has posted so far, Kagami. i'd also like for you to explain the scumread on him.

Nick, one head of the Turtles hydra unvoted you because they thought you were town, and i think the other one just got into the game and didn't like your slot from what they read. not an inconsistency, but more like the two heads not agreeing. it's kinda difficult to examine them cause of that, but they sign their posts so that's a plus.

[Garmr]

There be lots o' hedghog-like pirates on this voyage, so I'll be more clear:

VOTE: Rat who be thinkin' he's radical because the scurvy 'as settled deep in his brains

May I ask why? If it's the inactivity, that's because this level of activity is unprecedented in my severely limited experience( Two Newbie games here, and one Newbie one Theme on SmashBoards )

Gamr, lets talk about our mason chat.
Why aren't you talking in it?

Also, why are you feeling so townie to me?

This seems strange to me. As I understand it, the mason chat is a chat where everyone is Town and can communicate. A sort of Town Mafia, so to speak. Why would you need to question the towniness of a fellow Mason outside a bastard game? Or am I wrong on that point?

We don't really have a mason chat it just something we play around with a bit most games after I mistook him for another player who was masons with me in another game. It seems to work well when it comes to sorting each other out early game and we look at other peoples reactions to it as well. This game not many people have reacted to it through which is a change.

[Radical Rat]

Alright, I suppose that makes sense.

And Scourge, I'm fine going with Sonic for this game. If only my posting speed would reflect that, heh.

[A Real Scourge]

huh, thought it was a joke. glad it was, then.
Sonic, that just means i'm obviously the faster one. i'll guess you'll just have to deal. ;P

[Firebringer]

Not to mention how bad an idea double lynching on d1 is.

Agreed.

[Firebringer]

We don't really have a mason chat it just something we play around with a bit most games after I mistook him for another player who was masons with me in another game. It seems to work well when it comes to sorting each other out early game and we look at other peoples reactions to it as well. This game not many people have reacted to it through which is a change.

The fact so few people even mentioned it should tell us something.
My thoughts are Radical is town though for pointing it out.

It is weird from outside looking in.

[Firebringer]

I think one of Phoenix and Turtle is scum leaning on Turtles.

[Yarrrrgami]

i've liked what Rat has posted so far, Kagami.

What scrawlings of his has ye be liking?

[Yarrrrgami]

Not to mention how bad an idea double lynching on d1 is.

Ye must have barnacles for brains, or are accustomed to makin' non-scurvy pirates walk the plank on Day 1.

[Garmr]

Not to mention how bad an idea double lynching on d1 is.

Ye must have barnacles for brains, or are accustomed to makin' non-scurvy pirates walk the plank on Day 1.

Would be interesting to see if we nail a scum in a double lynch and end game to see where all scum place their votes.

[Turtles of Despair]

We can't double hammer, I said this :C
~Bee

[Frozen Angel]

I think one of Phoenix and Turtle is scum leaning on Turtles.

why?

[Frozen Angel]

Not to mention how bad an idea double lynching on d1 is.

what is bad about it? last time I checked town could have won a game with that : http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=64887

[Tails]

Not to mention how bad an idea double lynching on d1 is.

Ye must have barnacles for brains, or are accustomed to makin' non-scurvy pirates walk the plank on Day 1.

So without any information gathered from deaths and interactions, we are supposed to kill 2 people of unknown alignment and lose 1 town to scum nk? You're right. That's a much better idea.

[Tails]

If we had the capabilities of a double lynch, I'd much rather save it for d2 at the earliest, when we actually had more information to go on.