Micro 584: RuPaul's Drag Race Season 1 - Day 2

[Fire Starter]

VOTE: beeboy
I have a plan. Sheep me.

[Fire Starter]

Actually. It's a bad plan even by my standard. Don't do it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: horsebells

[pirate mollie]

Mollie I am neither a neighbor or a scum. I think these 2 games are unrelated

they are related and you know it, you did this dismissive crap last time. you are not even pretending to scumhunt you are stalling.

[RadiantHorsebells]

page 7 catchup

Why does town want to work with a fing survivor? Lynch mollie realize she isn't a survivor and was fake claiming so we can move on

Can you give me a good reason why mollie would claim lyncher on day 1?

Let's say Mollie is telling the truth, we lynch her and see that from her role pm, then tomorrow we lynch beeboy.

That's not how a flip works.

Since you can't be trusted you should be lynched first so I can prove your claim false.

Mollie's flip does not clear you, or tell us anything about your alignment.

I think 3dice is right. Why not lynch mollie and see if shes telling the truth? That is ideal play here, I think. Powerlynch Bboy if shes telling the truth.

This makes it so we win + get rid of anti town + potentially get a confimable guilty. Its win-win-win.

Which head is this?

lynching me will put the game in mylo tomorrow and if there are 3 scum then town is fucked. you will auto lose.

Why do you keep thinking there are 3 scum? 2 scum + a lyncher is quite a lot in a micro, even.

I didn't finish it cos I did slip and you are accusing me of something that I did not do.

*lost*

[beeboy]

They aren't related. I was caught that game for making aggressive stances that mean nothing that I couldn't follow up me the meta meant nothing in that game as well.

You probably have thought out responses to everything I can say before the game even started it is honestly disgusting what you are doing right now.

At the very least if I am scum let's find my buddy first because arguing about this is starting to make me hate myself.

[beeboy]

Radiant idfk why mollie is trying this now. Lyncher survivor with a confirmed guilty is a stupid role so it can't be true. My guess is she is picking a 1v1 she thinks she can't lose.

[RadiantHorsebells]

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I might just follow mollie just for the sake for the fact that I cant see a game design that isnt bastard that can be lylo at day 2. Its a kind of a yolo. But I'd sleep on that thought and think it through. So expect a vote from me tomorrow.

I will probably gambit this lynch and trust mollie

I like this guy.

THE REASON THAT IS GOOFY AND IMPOSSIBLE IS BECAUSE MOLLIE IS LYING

Time to stop tunnelling and look at this from a different mindset.

you know I think we nee to lynch mollie here no matter if she is telling the truth or not about beeboy being scum. there is basically no way I can trust her to not stubb town later in game.

I think we should give her a chance if beeboy flips scum. I think mollie wouldn't play like this if she was a regular lyncher.
A lyncher on town claims cop on day 2 and fakes a guilty.

I think it is you. altho catdog is giving you a run for your money so you shld totally try to work with that.

I like this post. Frozen Angel's posts have bothered me too.

thank you

Innocent Child

Well fuck me.

[RadiantHorsebells]

Radiant idfk why mollie is trying this now. Lyncher survivor with a confirmed guilty is a stupid role so it can't be true. My guess is she is picking a 1v1 she thinks she can't lose.

Why would she pick a 1vs1 at RVS? I don't see the stupidity of the role either. A lyncher is a role that doesn't like to out, as was proven again this game. So claiming lyncher, even if it is on scum, is pretty ballsy.

[Frozen Angel]

RH are you RC's alt?

[beeboy]

she has been saying it is a stupid claim to make all game, you are literally feeding into her trap.
To ZXXX I can find you a 9p with 2 scum and a lyncher on town

[RadiantHorsebells]

page 9-10

he reason I outed was to keep town off of town.

Why were you townreading CatDog so early? What did they do to get you to townread them?

In next post I ask everyone to read the forum and think mollie and beeboy are not in the game.

who is your scumread and why

why are you singling out beeboy? He has disappeared once CatDog and mollie started fighting.
He's still my number 1 scumread.

Horsebells (if he's rc? it is rc, right?)

I am not RC. RC was not able to join any games when I signed up for this. I was hoping to find a game WITH RC, but I signed up for this instead.

I'm really conflicted about beeboy rampage. I think he is really scum and mollie has him right. but thats where my mind blocks becuase mollie is not cooperating with anyone. she just claimed and burned this town!

From my point of view, mollie is extremely frustrated with how her claim has been handled. The appeal to help town has been slapped in her face and I think the emotion that comes from her dealing with this, makes her claim very much believable.
I don't agree with how she handled some of the arguments, but in the heat of the moment, things are said. I hope she and hiplop can work things out after this game is over.

MEBBE IT IS THE PERSON WHO IGNORED THE GAME, RVS VOTE HORSEBELLS AND THEN VOTED HIS SCUMMATE COS OF P2 REASONS.

That would be hilarious.

[RadiantHorsebells]

RH are you RC's alt?

nope

she has been saying it is a stupid claim to make all game, you are literally feeding into her trap.
To ZXXX I can find you a 9p with 2 scum and a lyncher on town

Of course you would say this.

[Frozen Angel]

oh I think I know who are you!

[RadiantHorsebells]

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I AM A VERY AGGRESSIVE PLAYER, i will NOT ALLOW YOU TO MAKE FUN OF ME JUST WHEN I JUST JOINED THE GAME!!!

VOTE: mollie

Why was it necessary to point out you are an agressive player?

3 DICE I WONT EXPLAIN UNTIL HE COMES IN AND POSTS SOMETHING

I'm assuming he has posted by now.

Why?

mollie doesnt deserve to win because shes annoying thats why I voted her

lynch BEEBOY tomorrow

Errrrr...no

WHY IS EVERYONE SO QUIET??? SPEAK UP!!!!!!! VOTE 3DICE

Why?

I dislike Horse, 3dice, and Catdog. Beeboy I'm still 50/50 on.

Unfortunately Mollie has to go. Lyncher, Scum, or Jester, none are good for town. I will wait for a VC since I'm not sure where shit stands.

Bad entrance.

kain said that beeboy was scummy on p2 and then voted him. doesn't look like selfconscious newbscum to you? then he votes me for being "annoying". probs cos I am pushing his partner if I was scum and my partner had a lyncher on their butt Iwld be pretty annoyed too. look beeboy's posting. its scum posting and they are pure "why me fry me" posts.

I am equally surprised nobody has pushed Kain.

[beeboy]

CatDog + Radiant is the scum team.

ZXXX may be scum.

This is null coming from Kain.

[beeboy]

3dice is town

Fire is also null.

[beeboy]

VOTE: CatDog

I'd like this lynch the most but I will settle for anything else tbh.

[beeboy]

Any of my scum reads + mollie is anything else btw.

[beeboy]

I like this guy.

You think he is town for not thinking this setup is possible.
Why is that?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=64880
You literally have played in a setup that can create MyLo on Day 2.

[beeboy]

Any 9 player with a Vig can also create MyLo on Day 2.
Day 2 mylo with horrible town play is possible in a 9 player.

[Frozen Angel]

I want to lynch one of the mollie or beeboy

the wifom is just to strong that can;t be ignored. if beeboy is town he and mollie will reach lylo and thats a fast town loose

[RadiantHorsebells]

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Okay, here's where I'm at. We're in kind of an awkward position.

I'm pretty sure mollie is being truthful about her lyncher status; however, I highly doubt she is being truthful about beeboy. Having an IC AND a lyncher with an honest scum target would be ridiculous, so with this information, we have two choices going forward:

1. Lynch mollie - She'll most likely flip basic lyncher. One more anti town player gone, but one less lynch to put toward scum.
2. Don't lynch mollie - She'll either fade back or keep pushing beeboy. If beeboy is town, we lose a LYLO because scum would never NK beeboy and mollie would just auto vote him.

Either situation we need to lynch scum, whether sooner or later. The real question is whether we want mollie here potentially making noise or whether we just want to end her now.

3. Lynch beeboy - 1 scum down.

"On Day 2, claim Cop with a guilty result on your target. By the time they figure out you're lying, you will have already won."

Sound familiar?

You missed the day 2 part and the claim cop part. It doesn't say "claim lyncher with a guilty on day 1".

Can we Lynch Kain?

Yes.

BUT MOLLIE SAID SHE IS LYNCHER AND SHE KNOWS HER TARGET IS SCUM... SO EITHER BEEBOY OR HER MUST BE SCUM.

No. Mollie is a lyncher and beeboy is scum.

I'm hesistant to lynch your target in case you leave the game + hes town + nightkill.

Do you really believe mollie would claim a guilty on day 1 if this was the case?

Also we should lynch between me and Mollie today since we won't be able to get anywhere with Mollie calling me scum in each of her posts.

This looks like you starting a 1vs1 now.

[Frozen Angel]

why your sure mollie told the truth about the guilty part on beeboy?

[RadiantHorsebells]

CatDog + Radiant is the scum team.

ZXXX may be scum.

This is null coming from Kain.

lol no.

I'm still not RC by the way.

[RadiantHorsebells]

why your sure mollie told the truth about the guilty part on beeboy?

I don't see the point of faking a guilty on day 1. Especially from mollie.