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RadiantCowbells He/himSmooth CriminalHe/him
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Gorkington Jack of All Trades
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zzzz.
just like.
im not even trying to get you lynched.
im not even suggesting an alternate lynch, nor would i condone a counterwagon to aero at this point.
but if you seriously think im going to trust anything you, as in you, radiant cowbells, claim in a game of mafia, youre seriously expecting me to ignore a LOT of context in terms of how i view how you play mafia.-
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Eh Gorkington is probably town, it's what my gut demands of me.
As far as Snowman I really do think he's coasting scum at the moment, his hated claim is still bothering me and we probably should have tested it long time ago.I swear I'm trying my best
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Extrapolated Eagle Mafia Scum
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In post 700, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 689, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Lonewolf venmar p much conftown imo
Show me how you got to"p much conftown".
In post 703, TheLoneWolf wrote:Venmar is pretty town because of the census ability and his play surrounding that.
I am for reasons already stated by the dead flipped town. I don't know Amenienienasn's meta but he seems to be a more careful player than to say I'm conftown without a solid basis.
this
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And gork is right, RC"@EE
Aside from that entire post being annoying as fuck, your scumread on me makes no sense." -Elyse (scum)-
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TheLoneWolf Goon
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Gorkington Jack of All Trades
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In post 704, Gorkington wrote:and are you aware of these reasons?
because to me it looks like its because of the "he had the same thing in his rolePM as me"-
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TheTrollie Mafia Scum
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In post 696, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 695, Gorkington wrote:also hold up, was rc fakeclaiming a guilty on aero or what?
am i missing something?
RadiantCowbells' first claim (cop-type):
In post 373, RadiantCowbells wrote:well you're not town so you're either scum or 3p.
RadiantCowbells' final claim (tracker):
In post 545, RadiantCowbells wrote:Nope, you killed Tails.In post 495, RadiantCowbells wrote:No, I'm saying that I tracked you to the dead guy.
And you claimed a non visiting role.
good point
In post 703, TheLoneWolf wrote:Venmar is pretty town because of the census ability and his play surrounding that.
I am for reasons already stated by the dead flipped town. I don't know Amenienienasn's meta but he seems to be a more careful player than to say I'm conftown without a solid basis.
this is really not good "I'm town for reasons stated by the dead" is not a town way to argue you are town.
In post 720, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 706, camn wrote:I think that it is much more likely Trollie is misinformed.
As I have mentioned, I think this is a complicated setup, and I don't think that follow-the-cop is the way to play it.
Part of the reason I keep pointing out the possibility of simple misinformation is to avoid a reflexive Trollie lynch after my flip.
These points interest me.
However, there is a strong reliance of there being a scum-miss-information power role.
Would xRECKONERx weaken our cop even more (even though we are already up against 5 scum) with an added miss-information PR? The mod has already confirmed there is no bastard element.
May I remind you all that we already had a MILLER flip - MILLER + Cop investigates guilty, cop's ID gets reported to scum faction is a pretty damn weak investigative cohort in the game.-
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TheTrollie Mafia Scum
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In post 724, Keyser Söze wrote:UNVOTE: camn
I want to hear more about TheTrollie's character.
Character claim please.
I've really liked Key but this is just blatent fishing.
I've already told you shitloads more than I wanted to about my role.-
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SnarkySnowman Mafia Scum
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In post 728, Venmar wrote:Eh Gorkington is probably town, it's what my gut demands of me.
As far as Snowman I really do think he's coasting scum at the moment, his hated claim is still bothering me and we probably should have tested it long time ago.
This is scum right here.
Though I agree gork is very likely town.-
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Keyser Söze Jack of All Trades
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In post 734, TheTrollie wrote:May I remind you all that we already had a MILLER flip - MILLER + Cop investigates guilty, cop's ID gets reported to scum faction is apretty damn weak investigative cohort in the game.
Good point - I forgot Tails flippedMillerDoctor.
In post 735, TheTrollie wrote:In post 724, Keyser Söze wrote:I want to hear more about TheTrollie's character.
Character claim please.
I've really liked Key but this is just blatent fishing.
I've already told you shitloads more than I wanted to about my role.
How can I be "fishing" if you've 'already told us shitloads' I am not role-fishing - I was interested in your character (flavour). A simple name will do.-
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camn soundtracker
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Miller = Another reason not to just play follow-the-cop.
Again, this setup is not straightforward.
But Aero is scum on play, as well as on results...so obv
FAIR WARNING: I am going V\LA starting this weekend for the week. A real life vacation. With dodgy cell coverage even. I will try and keep up...
But I will return. If you guys are gonna get worked up into a camn-murdering frenzy while I'm gone....tell me now so I can straighten you out. Otherwise, I'll be back to full access on the 15th."if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2-
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Venmar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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LMAOOOOOI swear I'm trying my best
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TheLoneWolf Goon
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TheLoneWolf Goon
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In post 738, camn wrote:Miller = Another reason not to just play follow-the-cop.
Again, this setup is not straightforward.
But Aero is scum on play, as well as on results...so obv
FAIR WARNING: I am going V\LA starting this weekend for the week. A real life vacation. With dodgy cell coverage even. I will try and keep up...
But I will return. If you guys are gonna get worked up into a camn-murdering frenzy while I'm gone....tell me now so I can straighten you out. Otherwise, I'll be back to full access on the 15th.
Post I was referring toDeath is like rain. It can hit anyone at anytime. It is simply a matter of standing under the sky and accepting it.-
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TheLoneWolf Goon
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In post 733, Gorkington wrote:In post 704, Gorkington wrote:and are you aware of these reasons?
because to me it looks like its because of the "he had the same thing in his rolePM as me"
We have a lot of other scum to lynch. Don't worry you won't be NKd BC I'm not scim and we can go further with this conversation some other dayDeath is like rain. It can hit anyone at anytime. It is simply a matter of standing under the sky and accepting it.-
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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In post 738, camn wrote:Miller = Another reason not to just play follow-the-cop.
Again, this setup is not straightforward.
But Aero is scum on play, as well as on results...so obv
FAIR WARNING: I am going V\LA starting this weekend for the week. A real life vacation. With dodgy cell coverage even. I will try and keep up...
But I will return. If you guys are gonna get worked up into a camn-murdering frenzy while I'm gone....tell me now so I can straighten you out. Otherwise, I'll be back to full access on the 15th.
Yea... of course I'm scum on play. I claimed scum.
Anyone trying to say "We shouldn't lynch this SK because he played like he was scum all game" should take a second to look at the obliviously silly sentence they just said.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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camn soundtracker
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No- I am saying we shouldnt just follow-the-cop. OR follow-the-tracker.
Cowbells is just as likely to have been twerked as anyone... except then he broke you.
That is why, given the 2 "guilties" in play.. I think the OBJECTIVE lynch is you. Not because of the track.. but because of the fallout, obv."if you weren't trying to be so unnecessarily mysterious all the time we wouldn't have these misunderstandings" - Yosarian2-
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Gorkington Jack of All Trades
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Aeronaut He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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TheTrollie Mafia Scum
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Really wanted to re-read today and the intention still is to do so. but in doing that I realized something STINKS about the RC/AERO interaction today.
Side Note: before I get into this, I just want to say that the next thing on my list is looking at Camn, Aero, and RC interactions on Day 1 because oddly, THEY ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT ONE ANOTHER ALL THE TIME on Day 1
Ok, so to this terrible RC claim:
Spoiler: After figuring out what Amman’s flip means, RC Asks Aero to claim
Spoiler: But then he says, nvm, it doesn’t matter what Aero claims because Aero must be either scum or 3p, and then places a vote
Spoiler: his claim was that he got a result that said that Aero was not town - who cares about the claim, he needs to be lynched anyway in this case
Spoiler: Aero points out that the first post, demanding a claim from Aero prior to saying any results, doesn’t really make sense if RC has a guilty result
Spoiler: Then Aero claims Beloved Princess, and RC says, “you might want to change that”
Spoiler: RC says the reason he’s asking Aero to change his claim is because he’s not a cop but that his result confirms Aero is scum given the Beloved Princess claim
Spoiler: reason is he tracked Aero to Tails
Spoiler: people, including aero, ask RC why he isn’t even considering my result/voting camn, his response is that he has a confirmed guilty
Spoiler: aero caves in saying he’s SK, but also that he killed Amihan and not tails (though that comes pretty late after the SK claim for someone saying they want to be pro-town by admitting 3p
BUT HERE’S THE THING. If RC is a tracker who tracked Aero to Tails, and knew Aero was scum after Aero claimed Beloved Princess
Spoiler: then why did he go at daybreak from asking Aero to claim (consistent with his final claim) immediately to saying “nvm It doesn’t matter, I know Aero is either Mafia or 3p” (Inconsistent with the final claim that he knows aero is scum only because he claimed a non-visitor role)
ok so here we go:
Spoiler: RC pushes a Trollie-lyncher theory HARD, with seemingly weird assumptions about game setup
So here is my theory:
RC is a Lyncher on Aero. The claim literally doesn’t make sense - it is pieced together and wrangled to fit the back and forth.
Camn is confirmed First Order aligned (Not sure if I shared that yet, didn’t think it was as important as my knowledge of the actual character role until now). It makes sense that Amihan was First Order as well due to flavor.
Spoiler: RC only claimed a guilty on Aero after he clarified last nights results
Interesting that RC then claims he tracked Aero to Tails. I think this is a shot in the dark, figuring that scum might know their Traitor-buddy and figuring that scum Aero would not kill his own faction. Why? not sure, could be that RC knows Aero’s flavor and assumes he has a kill ability or something. It seems like most of our roles include some information about game set-up.
my proposal
Is to lynch RC today. High chance he is either 3p Lyncher or scum due to his play today. He has not been town because he is giving zero credence to my claim, only pushing a lynch on Aero. He also tries to get people off of a camn wagon for really like no reason at all, is uninterested in talking about the pros and cons of lynching SK v. confirmed powerful scum.
Tonight, Aeronaut shoots camn.
If Camn and/or buddies or Aero kill me, thats fine we lynch camn tomorrow, and DO NOT listen to wifom bullshit because my cop ability is already very weak given the existence of a miller and the fact that my role and results dictate that I targeted Snoke or Ren, and that Snoke & Ren now know my role because of that, which is a very weak investigative role and it wasn’t bus-driven or some stupid shit. Plus, I just realized that my results actually exclude the possibility of a bus driver because I was told that I targeted either snoke or Ren, otherwise they wouldn't have been told my role, which I know they were told. (to clarify, if i targeted R2D2, for example, and was bus driven to Snoke, my role dictates explicitly that R2D2 would be told my role, but Camn is claiming that he got no information about my role which means he is not town which got bussed to scum)
If Camn is dead by morning, we lynch Aero tomorrow, if camn is not dead by morning, Aero has to explain or be strung up tomorrow morning.
VOTE: RadiantCowbells
That is my plan.-
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