Mini 1769: Ice Cream Mafia - Game over!

[Slandaar]

I don't feel your thoughts on Kain are worth discussing Keyser. It's just a lot of waffle. If you ignore, as you should, what should be playstyle related things you can then look at actual alignment indicative things ie my argument (perhaps TTH's argument(s)? -I didn't read that post)

[Slandaar]

OK I have quickly read that TTH post. It's similar to what I said at least the main argument there is focused on the same exchange.

[Keyser Söze]

I don't feel your thoughts on Kain are worth discussing Keyser. It's just a lot of waffle.

If you ignore, as you should, what should be playstyle related things

you can then look at actual alignment indicative things ie my argument (perhaps TTH's argument(s)? -I didn't read that post)

This is a good point - I think I am maybe reading too much into his playstyle. [i.e thinking scum-motivation contradicts with what he is choosing to post (and not choosing to post)]

[KainTepes]

I voted PHOENIX because my vote needed to go SOMEWHERE,, and PHOENIX seemed unvoted for, want to hear his OPINION!!!

I want to vote for SLANDAAR now because he was very OMGUS like with PHOENIX WRIGHT, VOTE: SLANDAAR

[Slandaar]

I "decided to highlight" it because when I ask questions (to help me sort players) I expect an answer. I don't post futile/aimless/directionless questions when I am scum-hunting. If they are rhetorical/non-scumhunting questions, then fairplay.

Why so defensive? It was a simple question

Mr.Beetlejuice

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It was a simple question in essence but the problem is that it seems a strange simple question to ask. And, now, you have not actually tackled the issue I raised and instead have accused me of being defensive.

I didn't intend for my vote to be taken as RVS - I found it odd he didn't ask me about it but asked mn about his hence the original question and then his response makes sense.

...so, are you going to answer his question: "Mind sharing it with us?" - why is Phoenix Wright scum?

I didn't answer because I wanted to make the response I made. I may answer the question in a bit. You are now asking the exact question he asked me.

You previously said this:

are they just words, or are these actually questions that require answers?

I don't post futile/aimless/directionless questions when I am scum-hunting. If they are rhetorical/non-scumhunting questions, then fairplay.

Why then were you asking if they are actually questions which require answers? You must already think it does as you, yourself, are now asking me the EXACT same question. Your question is beginning to look rather aimless/directionless is it not?

Do you feel Phoenix's question requires an answer or is it just words?

Yup, that's why I called it

"just hanging there"

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I wanted a conclusion from your exchange.

If this is the case then as said - I had not been around to post. The exchange would resolve itself in good time. The way you have phrased the question is not the greatest if this was indeed what you wanted.

[KainTepes]

I dont really know thou because there is once in this TOWN OF SALEM!!! game when there was someone who voted for the same person who voted for him and then people were confused about whose wagon to go on but nobody was sure,, because of that everyone piled up on one wagon it was mostly luck but most people on the wagon were MAFIA.... after that someone claimed godfather and it was weird????

[Slandaar]

I voted PHOENIX because my vote needed to go SOMEWHERE,, and PHOENIX seemed unvoted for, want to hear his OPINION!!!

I want to vote for SLANDAAR now because he was very OMGUS like with PHOENIX WRIGHT, VOTE: SLANDAAR

At least you showed some kind of attention to the game here.

[Phoenix Wright]

I dont really know thou because there is once in this TOWN OF SALEM!!! game when there was someone who voted for the same person who voted for him and then people were confused about whose wagon to go on but nobody was sure,, because of that everyone piled up on one wagon it was mostly luck but most people on the wagon were MAFIA.... after that someone claimed godfather and it was weird????

So you're trying to say that everyone voting for you is in the Mafia?

[KainTepes]

I forgot i kind of FORGOT what i wanted to say...... but basically that I suspect KEYSER and AQUANIM a little for jumping on wagons, KEYSER voted me while still showing some kind of reluctance (So that if he takes his vote off he can just say oh I wasnt SURE thats why), same with AQUA, who seems willing to vote for either MASQUERADE or ME, looks like scum vote hopping from one town wagon to another???

VOTE: AQUANIM

[Keyser Söze]

It was a simple question in essence but the problem is that it seems a strange simple question to ask. And, now, you have not actually tackled the issue I raised and instead have accused me of being defensive.

From my perspective there were questions questions questions infront of me, no answers. I mention your name, you beetlejuice in within minutes. You are now pro-actively scum-hunting/putting players under pressure. Good good good.

I may answer the question in a bit.

Yes, please do. Please connect the dots. That's what I wanted from the very start - not a chat about activity.

Your question is beginning to look rather aimless/directionless is it not?

My question was not aimless/directionless - it made both you and Phoenix Wright ACT. I wanted answers, I wanted connections. I didn't want it to hang hang hang.

I had not been around to post.

Good - all I wanted were answers.

[Keyser Söze]

I forgot i kind of FORGOT what i wanted to say...... but basically that I suspect KEYSER and AQUANIM a little for jumping on wagons, KEYSER voted me while still showing some kind of reluctance (So that if he takes his vote off he can just say oh I wasnt SURE thats why), same with AQUA, who seems willing to vote for either MASQUERADE or ME, looks like scum vote hopping from one town wagon to another???

VOTE: AQUANIM

Go through post 223 with me, and tell me which parts sound scummy/opportunistic. Are my observations accurate or reachy?

Note

I voted you with conviction

: Slandaar/TellTaleHeart presented a strong scum-narrative for your slot (post 182)

However, yes, there is a "reluctance" as you say: after looking further at your ISO this morning, I saw no-scum motivation in the way you are playing (playstyle). Scum do not talk themselves into a lynch (unless setting they are setting up a bus gambit).

[TellTaleHeart]

I was writing Post 178 as the previous flurry of posts were coming out (note the time stamps on the posts).

To say I was sheeping Slandaar is ridiculous.

[TellTaleHeart]

I dislike him going after kain.

After slandar laid down some suspicion about kain, telltale jumps in there with the gun, giving weak reasoning and pushing for it.

I'm thinking this kain wagon is a mislynch.

That's a pretty drastic overstatement seeing there's only two votes on Kain.

[TellTaleHeart]

Correction: Now there's three but the third came after Robster's post.

[Keyser Söze]

I dislike him going after kain.

After slandar laid down some suspicion about kain, telltale jumps in there with the gun, giving weak reasoning and pushing for it.

I'm thinking this kain wagon is a mislynch.

That's a

pretty drastic overstatement

seeing there's only two votes on Kain.

Indeed -

all pressure is good

(especially Day One), but opposing/shouting down a wagon calling it a "mislynch" indicates four things:

- either Golden Robster has a strong town-read of KainTepes
- Golden Robster knows KainTepes is town and wants town-cred defending a townie
- Golden Robster is chainsaw defending his scum partner
- Golden Robster is guilty of confirmation bias (i.e scum-reading the people on KainTepes' wagon)


Which one is it Golden Robster?

[KainTepes]

thats why I voted AQUANIM and not for you,, AQUANIM had the least reasons for vote hopping

[KainTepes]

that 'scum-narrative' is weird because its entirely based on what like 2 lines of post,, and I always do that, just look at ALL MY OTHER GAMES!!! I AM NOT INEXPERIENCED I HAVE 1000 GAMES ON TOWN OF SALEM!!!!!! IT IS NOT FORUM MAFIA,, I LIKE MAFIA SCUMMY THOUGH IT IS A NICE WEBSITE BUT PEOPLE KEEP CALLING ME A TROLL AND THAT MAKES ME CRY, I AM NOT ATROLL

[Keyser Söze]

Yup, I'm back to null on KainTepes. That OMGUS on Aquanim has left me speechless.

UNVOTE: KainTepes

[KainTepes]

WHY ARE YOU SPEECHLESS???? I LIKE SPEECHES,,

[KainTepes]

Hi

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KainTepes]

WHY IS NO ONE POSTING,, I AM lonely.....!!!

[Keyser Söze]

WHY ARE YOU SPEECHLESS???? I LIKE SPEECHES,,

- the unexplained scum/null/town reads/votes
- the missing chunks of the thread to throw a random vote down
- the OMGUS scum-read on me
- the OMGUS vote on Aquanim
- the hide-behind-playstyle defense
- the flip-flopping
- the "look at my meta guys, this is town me!" card
- the "THAT MAKES ME CRY" appeal to emotion card



This is too easy. I hate easy lynches. This isn't scum for me.

Speechless = I am WIFOM'd out.

[KainTepes]

do you really go to HOGWARTS SCHOOL???

[Keyser Söze]

do you really go to HOGWARTS SCHOOL???

Yes, House Slytherin.

[SirCakez]

Hi