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Post Post #5425 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:08 pm

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My problem is if Flubber is lying then Rob is probably also lying.
I doubt we would ha\/e 2 fake cops in this game.
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Post Post #5426 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:08 pm

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In post 5420, popsofctown wrote:Cakez, do you think my play has been scummier than Nero Cain's? Weird claim vs. guilty result with a chance of being bus driven seems to lean towards lynching the latter. If you honestly think my play has been 10 times scummier than Nero Cain's this game, by all means, lynch me, but don't convince yourself I'm remotely a correct lynch from the setup analysis/results angle.

Between the bus driver targetting someone else, the bus driver being 1 shot/2shot, the bus driver getting roleblocked by TSO, and the bus driver actually targetting nero cain but nero cain is actually still scum anyway, NC seems like the overwhelming percentage play.

Your play has been pretty scummy. Especially .
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Post Post #5427 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:09 pm

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meh it should be groups of 3 not pairs of three.

If you believed that then why were you voting me?
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Post Post #5428 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:11 pm

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In post 5425, beeboy wrote:My problem is if Flubber is lying then Rob is probably also lying.
I doubt we would ha\/e 2 fake cops in this game.

Rob can be lying without Flubber having to lie.

I'd lynch Rob over Flubber.
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Post Post #5429 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:12 pm

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In post 5427, Nero Cain wrote:meh it should be groups of 3 not pairs of three.

If you believed that then why were you voting me?


You could be a \/anilla Goon, the groups don't share alignment necessarily.
Also I think I could ha\/e found a coincidence.
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Post Post #5430 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:13 pm

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also I'm like 66% confirmed town btw unless you think TSO was trying to bus me which is pretty stupid b/c I was his
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Post Post #5431 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:13 pm

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In post 5428, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5425, beeboy wrote:My problem is if Flubber is lying then Rob is probably also lying.
I doubt we would ha\/e 2 fake cops in this game.

Rob can be lying without Flubber having to lie.

I'd lynch Rob over Flubber.


I think they are both truthing and there is a redirector.
I don't know what I expected was going to happen to Flubber's result when we already know Rob has been redirected before. (assuming truth)
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Post Post #5432 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:14 pm

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In post 5429, beeboy wrote:
In post 5427, Nero Cain wrote:meh it should be groups of 3 not pairs of three.

If you believed that then why were you voting me?


You could be a \/anilla Goon, the groups don't share alignment necessarily.
Also I think I could ha\/e found a coincidence.

this is a point. What do you think of cakes?
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Post Post #5433 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:15 pm

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Nero just \/ote pops with us if you keep flailing around I am going to \/ote you again.
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Post Post #5434 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:15 pm

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In post 5432, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5429, beeboy wrote:
In post 5427, Nero Cain wrote:meh it should be groups of 3 not pairs of three.

If you believed that then why were you voting me?


You could be a \/anilla Goon, the groups don't share alignment necessarily.
Also I think I could ha\/e found a coincidence.

this is a point. What do you think of cakes?


Pretty sure he is town. I doubt \/anilla goon is a thing with this powerful of a setup.
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Post Post #5435 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:17 pm

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In post 5425, beeboy wrote:My problem is if Flubber is lying then Rob is probably also lying.
I doubt we would ha\/e 2 fake cops in this game.
If it makes you feel better. I have been wondering about Rob for a while. I think someone has to be lying there are way to many unlucky coincidences.
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Post Post #5436 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:17 pm

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So I can be a vanilla goon but cakes can't?
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Post Post #5437 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:20 pm

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My big hang up with Rob is that his reasons for lynching wegurts were dumb, and his actions have been shit. So it looks like scum going out of thier way to NOT give any meaningful results.


Mod is Suzune told when she looses her modifier?
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Post Post #5438 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:20 pm

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In post 5435, Suzune wrote:
In post 5425, beeboy wrote:My problem is if Flubber is lying then Rob is probably also lying.
I doubt we would ha\/e 2 fake cops in this game.
If it makes you feel better. I have been wondering about Rob for a while. I think someone has to be lying there are way to many unlucky coincidences.


True but Pop's wouldn't ha\/e a role with 0 purpose so I am \/ery confident he is scum.

Maybe cross kills will help us figure out Rob and Flubber, I feel as though waiting on this could due us some good.
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Post Post #5439 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:20 pm

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In post 5436, Nero Cain wrote:So I can be a vanilla goon but cakes can't?


If I thought you where one i would be \/oting you.
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Post Post #5440 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:34 pm

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Mod won't answer that. That confirms Suzune has a modifier.

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Post Post #5441 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:35 pm

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In post 5433, beeboy wrote:Nero just \/ote pops with us if you keep flailing around I am going to \/ote you again.

Why are you in such a rush?
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Post Post #5442 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:35 pm

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In post 5438, beeboy wrote:True but Pop's wouldn't ha\/e a role with 0 purpose so I am \/ery confident he is scum
maybe someone halfed their role. When I was sk. I claimed FBI agent. But I was really the Serial Killer and the cop. So the deputy was kind of confused. So I assume someone halved their role in order to fake claim and someone can use pops power.
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Post Post #5443 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:36 pm

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In post 5442, Suzune wrote:
In post 5438, beeboy wrote:True but Pop's wouldn't ha\/e a role with 0 purpose so I am \/ery confident he is scum
maybe someone halfed their role. When I was sk. I claimed FBI agent. But I was really the Serial Killer and the cop. So the deputy was kind of confused. So I assume someone halved their role in order to fake claim and someone can use pops power.
Honestly, I just feel like it is too weird to be fake. I assume the sk can probably read the question.
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Post Post #5444 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:37 pm

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In post 5441, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5433, beeboy wrote:Nero just \/ote pops with us if you keep flailing around I am going to \/ote you again.

Why are you in such a rush?

In post 5443, Suzune wrote:
In post 5442, Suzune wrote:
In post 5438, beeboy wrote:True but Pop's wouldn't ha\/e a role with 0 purpose so I am \/ery confident he is scum
maybe someone halfed their role. When I was sk. I claimed FBI agent. But I was really the Serial Killer and the cop. So the deputy was kind of confused. So I assume someone halved their role in order to fake claim and someone can use pops power.
Honestly, I just feel like it is too weird to be fake. I assume the sk can probably read the question.


Why would town be gi\/en a role where the sole purpose is to help the SK?
It doesn't make sense .-.
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Post Post #5445 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:38 pm

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In post 5441, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5433, beeboy wrote:Nero just \/ote pops with us if you keep flailing around I am going to \/ote you again.

Why are you in such a rush?


I feel as though you are trying to look relaxed to get town reads.
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Post Post #5446 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:38 pm

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In post 5406, SirCakez wrote:That's a good point. Scum probably has a redirector.


Jesus Christ. This doesn't explain my night action. The mod specified that I would know if redirected.

And Nero, my action has been unreliable. I got a guilty on town. The mod has not answered any of my questions about who will/will not show up as having a deadly weapon, so I have to go with what I know will work. I can say for sure that an FBI agent will have a gun based on flavor. So I checked to see if he was lying.

A guilty means nothing at this point since a townie without a role that has a weapon turned up guilty. I'm some weird unexplained variant of a gunsmith/flavor cop, I think, and it's pretty impossible for me to use. Or scum has a gunsmith framer that we haven't flipped yet (which is lol given the nature of gunsmith).

So what would you have me do? Get a guilty on someone and get them lynched again? Could easily be a townie after the first results. Nah, not interested - I'd rather catch people in potential lies.

And I don't think T S O was going to be lynched, at least not next.
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Post Post #5447 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:39 pm

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In post 5446, Rob14 wrote:Jesus Christ. This doesn't explain my night action. The mod specified that I would know if redirected.


Can you clarify this and get back to us?
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Post Post #5448 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:39 pm

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What if Mimi was a miller o.o
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Post Post #5449 (ISO) » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:39 pm

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Hard to explain. There is a role that reads the dead thread. I forget what it is called. I assume that someone can read the dead thread and answer it.

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