Mini 1769: Ice Cream Mafia - Game over!

[KainTepes]

THIS is TERRIBLE.... BBT LOOKS SO MUCH MORE INACTIVE THIS GAME THAN IN ALL THE GAMES WHERE HE IS TOWN,, I WILL NOT GIVE HIM ANY MORE CHANCES..............

VOTE: BLUE BLOODED TOFFEE

[Keyser Söze]

PBC I HAVE PLAYED OVER 1000 GAMES ON TOWN OF SALEM AND WHEN TWO PLAYERS VOTE ON A WAGON AFTER A FIRST VOTE THEY TEND TO BE MAFIA TOGETHER???

You firmly believe scum would pile onto a 'miss-lynch' wagon?
Of the games I've played on mafiascum it's usually a one-on, one-off strategy.

I've rarely seen a scum-team pile on early (unless it is a bus, where their partner is basically dead-weight scum).

Take a step back - do you think scum and town have reason to be voting for you right now? Look at the comments challenging you - they do not believe you have a town win-con neither are exercising town-motivation in your play. They are shitting on your weak flip-flop changeable reads. Morever, their patience is wearing thin. I think your OMGUS-scum read/vote is short-sighted. I've seen this all too many times - and if this is a miss-lynch there is only 1 person to blame.

[Aquanim]

THIS is TERRIBLE.... BBT LOOKS SO MUCH MORE INACTIVE THIS GAME THAN IN ALL THE GAMES WHERE HE IS TOWN,, I WILL NOT GIVE HIM ANY MORE CHANCES..............

VOTE: BLUE BLOODED TOFFEE

So this player, who's savvy enough to talk about meta, didn't read the thread enough to see he was being wagoned earlier?

I don't think so.

[Keyser Söze]

Who do you think is a better lynch?

At this current time I do no want to lynch anyone, but I will present my Finger of Suspicion on Masquerade this afternoon. He is in my uncomfortable pile.

THIS is TERRIBLE.... BBT LOOKS SO MUCH MORE INACTIVE THIS GAME THAN IN ALL THE GAMES WHERE HE IS TOWN,, I WILL NOT GIVE HIM ANY MORE CHANCES..............

VOTE: BLUE BLOODED TOFFEE

In your "1000 GAMES ON TOWN OF SALEM" do you make a habit of voting for non-active players?
BlueBloodedToffee can't reply.
My vote on BlueBloodedToffee was being wasted.
BlueBloodedToffee owes us a catch-up.

Where has your Keyser Söze-Aquanim scum-case gone?

[KainTepes]

it IS a MISS LYNCH,, so i dont care anymore, if town is stupid enough to actually vote me I HAVE nothing to say...... if you would RATHER vote me than someone like BBT who has been actively DODGING PRODS.....

I dont think scum is STUPID ENOUGH to lynch me so that is why I think scum must have taken teh OPPORTUNITY to get on my wagon, BECAUSE it seems easy, I dont understand what you all play like on MAFIA SCUMMY but it is so different from TOWN OF SALEM and I STRONGLY SUSPECT scum is TAKING ADVANTAGE of that fact to lynch me,, in any case I have CRUMBLED my role if you want me to claim later....... i will rather not claim today though

so can you at least read that game i linked and tell me what i did wrong,, i dont want to go on mafia discussions because there are too many people and I DONT wnat to be criticized by too many people at once.......!

[KainTepes]

yes in town of salem , mafia is ALWAYS the inactive players,, because that means nobody notice them and they dont get lynched
https://www.blankmediagames.com/ this is the GAME....!!

[KainTepes]

you NEED to tell me what a SCUM-CASE is first??

[KainTepes]

stop laughing at me, i am not STUPID....

[KainTepes]

it is STUPID because in Town of Salem the town is always dumb enough not to notice the mafia is hiding and keep voting for active players thats why they lose

this is why i am GOOD at TOWN OF SALEM!!! I HAVE LOST 300 GAMES BUT WON 700 AND MORE!!!!!

[KainTepes]

so take that back, I am not STUPID!!! I WILL FIND SCUM IN THIS GAME I PROMISE YOU THAT!!!!! BECAUSE I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phoenix Wright]

yes in town of salem , mafia is ALWAYS the inactive players,, because that means nobody notice them and they dont get lynched
https://www.blankmediagames.com/ this is the GAME....!!

No lol. I've played it a lot and when I'm Mafia I basically lead the town in lynching townies. And I win all the time

[Phoenix Wright]

@aquamin

I don't see that from your previous posts:

Is it too early to ask for a force-replace? I really get the feeling mn is only here to antagonize us and not planning on actually playing the game..

That's quite a drastic comment to make during RVS.

Why?

Do you think his behavior has impeded town thus far?

Here, you implicitly defend mn from Masquerade and speak to Masquerade in an accusatory tone ("drastic comment"). That suggests you think Masquerade is probably not town and that you at least lean somewhat town on mn.

What is your read on Keyser Soze now?

I think that this post is really bad. It didn't look like Golden Rpbster was defending mn. Somebody wanting mm replaced because of their playstyle is kind of drastic, so it's weird that ocean wind isn't acknowledging that at all. There's no accusatory tone and he isn't acting like masquerade isn't town. So Oceanwind is just trying really hard to get golden robster lynched. What do you think about it?

[KainTepes]

NO, MAFIA IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE QUIET ONES. HOW MANY GAMES HAVE YOU PLAYED, IVE PLAYED 1000+ AND THAT IS THE PATTERN I OBSERVED!!!!

[Aquanim]

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I think that this post is really bad. It didn't look like Golden Rpbster was defending mn. Somebody wanting mm replaced because of their playstyle is kind of drastic, so it's weird that ocean wind isn't acknowledging that at all. There's no accusatory tone and he isn't acting like masquerade isn't town. So Oceanwind is just trying really hard to get golden robster lynched. What do you think about it?

I agree that the part of Ocean's argument referencing mn isn't very good. I can well imagine a town-Golden Robster calling out someone for requesting a force-replace on mn, whatever GR's read on mn actually is.

However, the part referencing Ocean's read on Masquerade I feel has a bit more meat on it. Golden is at least probing at Masquerade with this post (trying to find out the motivation behind the force-replace request) and I certainly couldn't see any good reason to think Masquerade was town at the time. Pushing GR over this, even if the evidence that Golden previously townread Masquerade was pretty slim, was I imagine partly directed at finding out the reason for GR's town read on Masquerade (which IIRC never did get explained).

This was pretty early in the game, so Ocean reaching a bit for material doesn't seem that scummy to me. I know I've fallen into the trap of "point A is scummy, point B is similar so it must be scummy too (even though point B is much more tenuous)" myself in the past.

[Phoenix Wright]

NO, MAFIA IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE QUIET ONES. HOW MANY GAMES HAVE YOU PLAYED, IVE PLAYED 1000+ AND THAT IS THE PATTERN I OBSERVED!!!!

I don't know, like 200 or something like that

[Phoenix Wright]

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I think that this post is really bad. It didn't look like Golden Rpbster was defending mn. Somebody wanting mm replaced because of their playstyle is kind of drastic, so it's weird that ocean wind isn't acknowledging that at all. There's no accusatory tone and he isn't acting like masquerade isn't town. So Oceanwind is just trying really hard to get golden robster lynched. What do you think about it?

I agree that the part of Ocean's argument referencing mn isn't very good. I can well imagine a town-Golden Robster calling out someone for requesting a force-replace on mn, whatever GR's read on mn actually is.

However, the part referencing Ocean's read on Masquerade I feel has a bit more meat on it. Golden is at least probing at Masquerade with this post (trying to find out the motivation behind the force-replace request) and I certainly couldn't see any good reason to think Masquerade was town at the time. Pushing GR over this, even if the evidence that Golden previously townread Masquerade was pretty slim, was I imagine partly directed at finding out the reason for GR's town read on Masquerade (which IIRC never did get explained).

This was pretty early in the game, so Ocean reaching a bit for material doesn't seem that scummy to me. I know I've fallen into the trap of "point A is scummy, point B is similar so it must be scummy too (even though point B is much more tenuous)" myself in the past.

Fair enough

[KainTepes]

I HAVE PLAYED 1000+ GAMES SO I HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE

[Keyser Söze]

you NEED to tell me what a SCUM-CASE is first??

Imagine that this is a court case, and you want to prove that myself and Aquanim are scum partners. You need to provide a convincing case to the jury to prove our guilt.



This is a team game - your reads may be 100% accurate, however, without the support of your team the scum will not be eliminated.



Thus, why did you drop your Keyser Söze-Aquanim scum-case and then leave your vote on a slot that is not active. Push/present your Keyser Söze-Aquanim scum-case.

Your current argument is:

'in one previous game, 2 scum jumped on a miss-lynch wagon after 1 vote'

and you are concluding it is the same case here. This is a logical fallacy. Do you have any other supporting evidence that points to a Keyser Söze-Aquanim scum-team, or is that the only item of evidence?

[KainTepes]

so is it like a PHOENIX WRIGHT GAME???? THEN IT WILL BE MORE FUN THAN I THOUGHT,,, I always need a walkthrough for PW games though.... because they have weird answers

[Phoenix Wright]

The answers aren't weird

[KainTepes]

im confused

[popsofctown]

Apparently there's a god of mafia in this game I need to be sheeping.

[KainTepes]

THAT WILL BE ME

[Slandaar]

Kain, You are loveable but its obvious you know what you're doing.

I dont think scum is STUPID ENOUGH to lynch me so that is why I think scum must have taken teh OPPORTUNITY to get on my wagon

Contradicts itself. Could be a typo but...

I STRONGLY SUSPECT scum is TAKING ADVANTAGE of that fact to lynch me,

It's not.

You seemed much more sensible in your completed town game also. Is there a reason for this?

[SirCakez]

Hi