Mini 1769: Ice Cream Mafia - Game over!


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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:35 am

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I'd like to replace out. I'm not enjoying this game at all
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:37 am

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In post 368, popsofctown wrote:town-Kain is suspicious of everyone, even people not trying to mislynch him and Phoenix Wrought. It's very healthy mistrust.

But he's not suspicious of everyone... Image
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:38 am

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I don't see the scum narrative. His scum strategy is to skip reading the thread and draw attention to himself? I don't believe he's played 1000 games of "town of salem" but I believe he's played 10. You're not really painting me a very believable picture, your just pushing an easy day 1 VI lynch.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:41 am

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In post 377, popsofctown wrote:I don't see the scum narrative. His scum strategy is to skip reading the thread and draw attention to himself? I don't believe he's played 1000 games of "town of salem" but I believe he's played 10. You're not really painting me a very believable picture, your just pushing an easy day 1 VI lynch.

It reads to me like someone with the mentality small child playing hide-and-seek, hiding in the corner and covering his eyes thinking "if I can't see you, you can't see me", hoping that if he doesn't look at the danger it will just go away.

Whether Kain in fact has that mentality or he's just projecting it, it fits somebody of that mentality
deliberately trying to deceive
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:42 am

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VOTE: popsofctown
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:43 am

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EBWOP: I agree it's not a standard scum picture, but I cannot find a town picture that includes that post which even makes any sense.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:44 am

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Kain is really taking the "hide" out of hide and seek, Aquanim. He posts frequently, in all caps, and posts even if he has nothing about the game of which to speak.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:45 am

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The best way to read a VI is the measure their fear of death.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:45 am

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In post 377, popsofctown wrote:His scum strategy is to skip reading the thread and draw attention to himself?

What the fuck does that even mean?
I don't even see how this is germane to what's going on in the thread.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:45 am

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GuyFawkes will be replacing Masquerade.
Phoenix Wright has requested replacement, seeking one now.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:45 am

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In post 381, popsofctown wrote:Kain is really taking the "hide" out of hide and seek, Aquanim. He posts frequently, in all caps, and posts even if he has nothing about the game of which to speak.

The point of the analogy isn't the "hide-and-seek" part, it's the "if I can't see you, you can't see me" part.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:46 am

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In post 382, popsofctown wrote:The best way to read a VI is the measure their fear of death.

It's pretty fucking high from what I'm seeing.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:46 am

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That was a characterization of what Aquanim had just told me.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:47 am

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In post 381, popsofctown wrote:Kain is really taking the "hide" out of hide and seek, Aquanim. He posts frequently, in all caps, and posts even if he has nothing about the game of which to speak.

This
seems more relevant to personality than alignment.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:48 am

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In post 388, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 381, popsofctown wrote:Kain is really taking the "hide" out of hide and seek, Aquanim. He posts frequently, in all caps, and posts even if he has nothing about the game of which to speak.

This
seems more relevant to personality than alignment.



And iirc someone said he's played more chillaxedly in a different game where he was town, and he's even less concerned with keeping a low profile this game. Assuming this game is the one where he's drawn scum would be a Too Scummy To Be Scum argument.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:49 am

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In post 387, popsofctown wrote:That was a characterization of what Aquanim had just told me.

No, it's really not. I didn't say Kain skipped reading the thread and drew attention to himself as scum.

The scenario which makes sense to me is that Kain read the thread, saw there was pressure on him, then decided he'd *pretend* not to have read the thread, so he wouldn't have to answer to the pressure.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:50 am

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In post 389, popsofctown wrote:And iirc someone said he's played more chillaxedly in a different game where he was town, and he's even less concerned with keeping a low profile this game. Assuming this game is the one where he's drawn scum would be a Too Scummy To Be Scum argument.

These are... some words.

You want to take another shot at whatever you were trying to say sweetie?
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:51 am

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I just can't give the much masterminding credit to someone who thinks ice cream is a good idea for an upset stomach.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:51 am

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Don't call me sweetie
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:51 am

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In post 389, popsofctown wrote:
In post 388, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 381, popsofctown wrote:Kain is really taking the "hide" out of hide and seek, Aquanim. He posts frequently, in all caps, and posts even if he has nothing about the game of which to speak.

This
seems more relevant to personality than alignment.



And iirc someone said he's played more chillaxedly in a different game where he was town, and he's even less concerned with keeping a low profile this game. Assuming this game is the one where he's drawn scum would be a Too Scummy To Be Scum argument.

I think it was this game:

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in which he never got wagoned, which is what's driven him to his higher-profile activity this game.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:52 am

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How much attention one draws to oneself should indeed be based on meta, but Kain is exceeding even his own meta in terms of suicidal flashy behavior, so it should be seen as alignment indicative.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:53 am

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In post 392, popsofctown wrote:I just can't give the much masterminding credit to someone who thinks ice cream is a good idea for an upset stomach.

"Cover your eyes and pretend nobody is looking at you" is mastermind-level play now?
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:54 am

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Relatively speaking.

He was pretty conspicuous before he got wagoned, there wasn't much of an uptick (or much room to uptick) once he got wagoned.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:55 am

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In post 392, popsofctown wrote:I just can't give the much masterminding credit to someone who thinks ice cream is a good idea for an upset stomach.

I think that was a cheeky reference to the game title. :S

popsofctown wrote:Don't call me sweetie

I'm from the south so I unconsciously throw that word around casually sometimes. Apologies. :oops:
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:56 am

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Let's go back to where I started.

Do you think Kain had read the thread and knew he was under pressure when he posted #206?
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