Micro 584: RuPaul's Drag Race Season 1 - Day 2

[3dicerolling]

We're not lynching Mollie today and we aren't lynching beeboy today.

Tomorrow, if whoever we lynch today flips town, we will lynch beeboy. If they flip scum, we will reevaluate.

Lynch pool for today fire starter, catdog, and ZZZX, although lately I'm feeling fire starter could be town.

yes we are. if you let beeboy and I go to lylo with any of kain or fire it is an auto-loss for town. I am so tempted to post my role pm right now its not even funny.

plz just fucking lynch me cos I will post it if I am forced to endure this shitty game with its shitty players any longer.

the only way that will forgive catdog is if they are a lyncher on me.

@ bro - srsly kain and fire as replacements? thats like giving the playerlist a big fuck you.

I don't understand why you are so unhappy. If we mis-lynch today, then there is 2 town, 2 scum, and you. Beeboy has to be lynched, either by you with the town, or you with the scum.

After that, if you really stay in the game, then it's 1 town, 1 scum, and you, hopefully you will be gracious enough to side with the town player because we helped you achieve your win condition.

No other option really supercedes this option imo

[beeboy]

I don't understand why you are so unhappy. If we mis-lynch today, then there is 2 town, 2 scum, and you. Beeboy has to be lynched, either by you with the town, or you with the scum.

After that, if you really stay in the game, then it's 1 town, 1 scum, and you, hopefully you will be gracious enough to side with the town player because we helped you achieve your win condition.

No other option really supercedes this option imo

She is lying though so lynch her first and lynch me.
We will lose by lynching me.
It is safer then assuming I am scum and hoping she sides with you.

[3dicerolling]

Let's see, we lynch mollie, she flips regular lyncher, and we have gained 0 ground. You are so smart beeboy!

[CatDog]

bro what is a misdirector?

Mollie is it bad if I say i'm unsure? I've seen misdirector before on my homesite I'm pretty sure.

[CatDog]

3dice. you don't know what you're talking about re: setup design. Again, I love you but please you're just wrong

[3dicerolling]

Which head am I currently addressing?

[CatDog]

hippy has been the one talking about this stuff

[3dicerolling]

Hippy, you are like donald trump right now. You don't actually address my points, you just tell me I'm wrong.

[CatDog]

you're right.

[pirate mollie]

I don't understand why you are so unhappy. If we mis-lynch today, then there is 2 town, 2 scum, and you. Beeboy has to be lynched, either by you with the town, or you with the scum.

After that, if you really stay in the game, then it's 1 town, 1 scum, and you, hopefully you will be gracious enough to side with the town player because we helped you achieve your win condition.

No other option really supercedes this option imo

I don't want to be in lylo with beeboy since no1 believes a word of what I am saying. like no1. it makes no sense to leave me alive if you guys think I am lying.

its why I wld rather be lynched. sure it can be argued that I am playing against my wc but I can make a better argument that I did everything in my power to get scum lynched. my misstep was that I was treating this game as a town friendly indie from 3 years ago and things have changed.

leaving me around only ensures a scum win cos beeboy will get to pick who he wants in lylo with me and he will make sure that it is some1 who will vote me. that is the problem I have with your scenario.

[pirate mollie]

bro what is a misdirector?

Mollie is it bad if I say i'm unsure? I've seen misdirector before on my homesite I'm pretty sure.

this post is from utl yeah?

[CatDog]

no hiplop!

[CatDog]

setup stuff has all been me

utl and I are talking about it though.

[3dicerolling]

If you are town, you need to read this.

If we mislynch today, beeboy

has

to die tomorrow because of this logic: 2 town, 2 scum, 1 lyncher. If beeboy is town, then the game is already over because 2 scum will vote him, then mollie will hammer to win.

If beeboy is scum, then he won't get hammered by scum, and the remaining town needs to vote him with mollie.

The only way this isn't the best scenario is if mollie leaves the town when beeboy is lynched, in which case lynching mollie is the best scenario, but I'd like to believe bro wouldn't throw us in a 9P game with a 3rd party who leaves.

However, if we don't lynch mollie today, then this is how the scenario must play out.

[CatDog]

3dice number out benefit of leaving mollie alive vs lynching her gogogo

(i have class now)

[pirate mollie]

where is your homesite if you don't mind me asking?

i am gonna fish for the first ut game I ever played cos lulz the roles.

eta: 3dice I get what you are saying. fire's indignation feels town and I wld really hate that catdog did dirty scum sledging to this degree in this game. their pushback makes sense to me coming from town.

I don't believe kain's claim, a joat seems to be a frequent scumclaim which explains why when I have been town!joat I am always suspected.

zzthing does this (disappears at a crucial time as town) and the fact that beeboy thinks he is scum makes me think more strongly he is town.

[3dicerolling]

Let's say we lynch mollie now, we can break it into scenario A, where she is a normal lyncher, with a target on beeboy, and B where she is exactly who she says she is.

A. We are left in a 5P with 2 scum 3 town, we have to lynch correctly two days in a row.
B. Beeboy dies, then Kain because Kain is obv scum due to too many PRs.

Now let's say we lynch somebody not mollie or beeboy, which we can break down into scenario C where we lynch scum, and scenario D where we lynch town.

C. We lynch scum, then we have 5P with 1 scum, mollie, and 3 town. Let's break this next one down into C1 and C2.
C1. We lynch scum at the 5P and win the game.
C2. We lynch town at the 5P, and then we are left with mollie, 1 town/scum, and beeboy. Beeboy dies, and, depending on his alignment, one team wins.
D. If we lynch town today, we are brought into a 5P with mollie, 2 scum, and 2 town. Beeboy is lynched by either the town or scum. If he's lynched by the scum, scum win, and if he is lynched by the town, we are brought into a situation of Mollie, 1 town, and 1 scum. How this will play out, I'm not 100% sure.

So let's weigh the benefits of plan: lynch mollie gogogo
1. We are guaranteed to have 3 town and 2 scum, so we won't have to worry about what mollie will do.
2. Mollie won't be able to turn our backs on us in a situation like situation D.

Now, the benefits of plan: Don't lynch mollie, go slowslowslow
1. We potentially have an extra lynch. Whoever we lynch today, plus beeboy tomorrow, who could be either town or scum.
2. 1 is really the only benefit, but an extra lynch is pretty good.

If anyone has anything to add, feel free. Analyzing this list, I'd feel slightly better about lynching mollie now, but I want other players opinions on this.

[beeboy]

You forgot the benefit that when I am town and mollie is a regular lyncher we won't lose instantly.
Which is what will happen

[3dicerolling]

You forgot the benefit that when I am town and mollie is a regular lyncher we won't lose instantly.
Which is what will happen

Didn't really mark that as a benefit because it's really the same amount of lynches either plan, unless you are scum, or unless mollie leaves the game.

[3dicerolling]

And mollie, just to establish for the record, none of my stances against you are personal, but I'm working to get the town to a W here, and I hope you understand why I have been less inclined to believe you this game.

I have been reading what you are saying though, and taking these things into account.

[pirate mollie]

And mollie, just to establish for the record, none of my stances against you are personal, but I'm working to get the town to a W here, and I hope you understand why I have been less inclined to believe you this game.

I have been reading what you are saying though, and taking these things into account.

I don't take them personally 3dice so no worries.

I am asking to be lynched cos I think the dead pt might be more fun? mebbe it won't be and I will just cry when I get there.

I had the best of intentions here and if I was only a lyncher I wld have played this role a lot differently. but I was a lyncher on scum and a survivor and considering how many games I die early I thought by being truthful was my best shot.

[hiplop]

mollie I come from Wrestlingforum Faraday posts there and brought me here in 2011

[hiplop]

mollie I understand why you played how you did, its just super hard for me to wrap my brain around. No hard feelings?

[CatDog]

mollie I come from Wrestlingforum Faraday posts there and brought me here in 2011

[CatDog]

mollie I understand why you played how you did, its just super hard for me to wrap my brain around. No hard feelings?