Mini 1771 - Legend of Zelda Mafia: Storm the Castle Endgame

[beeboy]

wtf are you saying if I got blocked or killed me holding my cop wouldn't change anything.
So logically if I could survive and I thought not using my action was the correct play I would do it.

[Cookie Bakers]

@Cleavage, Give me a little investigation time.

@Beeboy, Does your feedback give a method of verifying that you

actually

rolecopped Cleavage without actually outing their role? For instance an ability flavor name that could belong to multiple characters and doesn't out the role? But Cleavage would be able to confirm that it is their flavor ability?

[clearance only]

I'm not sure what good that would do. I'm already positive he's actually a rolecop.

[beeboy]

Yeah I can't confirm fla\/or as well only ability name claim it is bad.

[beeboy]

Yeah, I can't confirm fla\/or as well. only ability name claim, it is bad.

I think that punctuation makes more sense lol.

[clearance only]

Pretty sure my man Mirhawk had excellent reads. Gonna take a look at them.

[clearance only]

Your wagon has scum on it. Mine does not.

Are you seriously calling Beeboy and Xky town?

Bang.

[Cookie Bakers]

@Cleavage, Proving things helps little by little. If beeboy was scum, proving he's a rolecop that copped you would be beneficial. So he's copped you and claims to have a cop shot as well. Confirming his exact claim helps.

[Cookie Bakers]

The next step IMO is to take all those claims from yesterday, figure out what they did and get a better picture as a whole.

Beeboy will likely still be the lynch but it's something that should be documented given the number of claims that happened.

[Cookie Bakers]

For instance, Dwlee not refilling me... why?

[clearance only]

He's either scum or got roleblocked like you said.

[Cookie Bakers]

And if someone else got blocked, it's a direct CC to Dwlee. (For the record, this is why I wanted a roleblock CC to Ari's claim rather than a neighborizer CC).

This is a role madness style game, we should do our homework then lynch Beeboy.

[clearance only]

I'd imagine scum have one of those - this game seems to revolve around x-shots and stuff so it doesn't conflict as much with Ari's roleblock for them to have one as I previously thought.

[clearance only]

Also circling back to cakes CC - it did feel kinda real but I'd imagine it's more null than we all imagined at first because Ari did previously specify that his neighbor had a conditional. And being cakes claim as well he as scum would know a massclaim would come eventually so it's info that would be out in the open eventually.

[clearance only]

Also dwlee could still be scum even if scum have a roleblocker yea.
But then why do they choose to block someone random in the dark and not the cop?

[clearance only]

Or maybe dwlee came up with an elaborate master plan - knowing we would react this way and guess that beeboy would choose a clearly un-optimal target - get put under heavy scrutiny and skate along claiming that he got roleblocked for a while.

But that's some next level stuff.

[Cookie Bakers]

Also dwlee could still be scum even if scum have a roleblocker yea.
But then why do they choose to block someone random in the dark and not the cop?

Because we'd lynch it?

If there is a scum roleblocker, it'll be in the unverifiable claims.

I can say pretty certainly where Sir Cakez was last night (visited us). Beeboy claims to have visited you (may need to verify). Dwlee will claim to visit me. Mirhawk cannot be the blocker. We aren't (as we are confirmed dayvig town). I'm presuming that Cleavage isn't the roleblocker if Beeboy is town because Beeboy would not say a roleblock claim is autotown but autoscum at this point and Beeboy wouldn't likely claim the roleblocker is cleared as scum. Toog can't be the roleblocker because dead.

Pisskop, X, Nahdia, Ari, PW and Chaos Omega <--- those are the only places where the roleblocker should be if Dwlee is town. This can be narrowed down if anyone else is alibied as not visiting Dwlee. If we run into a setup where there is no roleblocker, we can lynch Dwlee and be pretty certain he's scum regardless of what he says.

[clearance only]

Right because you can't use more than one action at a time. Right?

[Cookie Bakers]

Right, with the caveat scum might or might be able to kill and take an action at the same time.

Can scum perform a night action and perform the factional kill during the same night?

[clearance only]

Opening post says yes.

[beeboy]

I can doc and rolecop on the same night if I wanted.

[Cookie Bakers]

I can doc and rolecop on the same night if I wanted.

What the fuck?

Can you give your

exact

claim?

[beeboy]

royal something: rolecop infinite
tri-force: 1-shot cop

I said this already.

[clearance only]

Also isn't cakes neighboring you guys kinda weird?
Like aren't you a pretty obvious NK?

[clearance only]

Guess you could say obv doc protect as well but I woulda guessed strongman.