Chaos Diplomacy FINISHED! Who were the survivors?

Randomnamechange · Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:04 am

I'm cool with that. Russia won't be attacked (particularly successfully) this turn.
Klick, Germany are clearly incredibly untrustworthy. Is it really optimal to ally with them?

ISO · Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:07 am

Budapest, Serbia, Bulgaria: Can you support me to free up Vienna to take Warsaw?
Greece: can you hold your horses for one turn?

Shadoweh: hi hello let's be friends Sev is yours if you want it. Russia can't guarantee you Rum and Austria would be able to easily take it back anyway.

Fluminator edit:
Remember you can't edit posts. It would allow for people to break the game. Cephrir's edit was done right away to add the second part of his post so no harm was done, but everyone remember for the future.

ISO · Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:08 am

In post 601, Cephrir wrote:Shadoweh: hi hello let's be friends Sev is yours if you want it. Russia can't guarantee you Rum and Austria would be able to easily take it back anyway.

It should be noted that I will be supporting you into Sev regardless of your response, and you're more likely to get it successfully if you don't state whether you actually are going to try to take it or not, as you want Moscow to waste its time attacking me.

Extrapolated Eagle · Post Post #603 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:10 am

In post 601, Cephrir wrote:Budapest, Serbia, Bulgaria: Can you support me to free up Vienna to take Warsaw?
Greece: can you hold your horses for one turn?

Shadoweh: hi hello let's be friends Sev is yours if you want it. Russia can't guarantee you Rum and Austria would be able to easily take it back anyway.

*more

And yes, if you can guarantee me your support in taking Bulgaria afterwards.

ISO · Post Post #604 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:10 am

In post 602, Cephrir wrote:
In post 601, Cephrir wrote:Shadoweh: hi hello let's be friends Sev is yours if you want it. Russia can't guarantee you Rum and Austria would be able to easily take it back anyway.

It should be noted that I will be supporting you into Sev regardless of your response, and you're more likely to get it successfully if you don't state whether you actually are going to try to take it or not, as you want Moscow to waste its time attacking me.

And if you're worried about where to go after, perhaps we can work something out to convoy you into the ocean.

ISO · Post Post #605 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:11 am

In post 603, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 601, Cephrir wrote:Budapest, Serbia, Bulgaria: Can you support me to free up Vienna to take Warsaw?
Greece: can you hold your horses for one turn?

Shadoweh: hi hello let's be friends Sev is yours if you want it. Russia can't guarantee you Rum and Austria would be able to easily take it back anyway.

*more

And yes, if you can guarantee me your support in taking Bulgaria afterwards.

The problem is, if I agree to that, Bulgaria doesn't have any incentive to do what I ask this turn

Extrapolated Eagle · Post Post #606 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:20 am

Bulgaria has about as much of an option as a man sitting on an electric chair

Fluminator · Post Post #607 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:27 am

Extra extra!

Word on the street is last night, Cuddly Caucasian, the leader of Serbia, was out in a monastery doing poetry. While he was out there a new faction took over the government.

Drixx has replaced Cuddly Caucasian as the leader of Serbia.

ISO · Post Post #608 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:32 am

Hi Drixx! Let's be friends.

Fluminator · Post Post #609 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:08 am

One more announcement.

Since the retreat phase was skipped last round I feel I should make it crystal clear how it works for those who don't read the first post.
If a unit gets displaced, it has the option to retreat to any open neighboring territory (That isn't bounced). This includes being able to retreat to an open supply center.
It's an important mechanic to keep track of.

Zulfy · Post Post #610 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:36 am

In post 593, ActionDan wrote:It would take 2 actions to go the Ionian, and by then it wouldn't influence anything. It might as well continue to MAO while Portugal's fleet continues to NAO or similar.

Animorph should move to Gascony for the potential of a bounce in Mar since Ruh-->Bur is coming.

Private should move to Adr sea

Pabs should move to Tyr with Mist supporting

Shadoweh can take care of herself and Smy should move to the aegean (which I was surprised didn't happen last phase)

This is good. I like this.

Shadoweh · Post Post #611 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:05 am

I agree with Dan that Nyalite should move into the Aegean. There's not much reason to stay behind.

Ah, Sevestapool. I said something to this effect earlier but, what would I do once I was there? I can't move further into Russia with a fleet, and I'd hardly be able to support myself keeping it. It makes much more sense for us to fling Constantinople into Bulgaria like a bullet. I haven't done the math on whose armies are whose up there. What would happen without Bulgaria's support up there?

ISO · Post Post #612 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:12 am

In post 611, Shadoweh wrote:I agree with Dan that Nyalite should move into the Aegean. There's not much reason to stay behind.

Ah, Sevestapool. I said something to this effect earlier but, what would I do once I was there? I can't move further into Russia with a fleet, and I'd hardly be able to support myself keeping it. It makes much more sense for us to fling Constantinople into Bulgaria like a bullet. I haven't done the math on whose armies are whose up there. What would happen without Bulgaria's support up there?

Like I said a page or two ago, I'd be willing to help toss you into the ocean at some point if that's your fancy. Or you could just use it to get a build in Ankara and move out from there.

If I don't have Bulgaria's support, I may be able to survive as long as I have Serbia's, but it would be at the risk of passing on Bella getting Warsaw unless you were to support me as well.

ISO · Post Post #613 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:15 am

That would give room for Bulgaria to stab me, though I don't know why they would as I have if anything done my best to stick up for them.

Drench · Post Post #614 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:28 am

the advantage of turkey being in the black sea usually is that it allows turkey to kinda just support chain it's way into the balkans with a unit whose support can't be cut (because honestly who the fuck else has a fleet in the balkans in 1901)
so that's definitely a possibility for the region if it turns out that people want to "slingshot into bulgaria" as previously stated

Drench · Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:29 am

also why i was in favour of keeping the black sea clear but what's done is done

ISO · Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:51 am

@Mod

: Can a fleet move from Sev to Mos?

Drench · Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:53 am

In post 616, Cephrir wrote:
@Mod
: Can a fleet move from Sev to Mos?

no

Zulfy · Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:09 am

Actually Tunis, with north africa under your control you can make another fleet and patrol the mediterranean sea. I can see marseilles or venice or the turks needing Support at some point. You are in a good position to have all of that on lockdown

Zulfy · Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:09 am

Greece I need to know your plans

Lady Lambdadelta · Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:11 am

In post 600, Randomnamechange wrote:I'm cool with that. Russia won't be attacked (particularly successfully) this turn.
Klick, Germany are clearly incredibly untrustworthy. Is it really optimal to ally with them?

You're fucking deluded, m8. I'm the single most honest fucking person in this game.

Zulfy · Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:14 am

Hey LLD

No ur not

Extrapolated Eagle · Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:24 am

In post 618, Zulfy wrote:Actually Tunis, with north africa under your control you can make another fleet and patrol the mediterranean sea. I can see marseilles or venice or the turks needing Support at some point. You are in a good position to have all of that on lockdown

Well craps. I misunderstood the game and thought I had to have a country with a. supply center to build more units. I'm an idiot. Good game all, I planned everything completely wrong

In post 619, Zulfy wrote:Greece I need to know your plans

Just a second I need to remap everything all over again

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:33 am

In post 601, Cephrir wrote:Budapest, Serbia, Bulgaria: Can you support me to free up Vienna to take Warsaw?
Greece: can you hold your horses for one turn?

Shadoweh: hi hello let's be friends Sev is yours if you want it. Russia can't guarantee you Rum and Austria would be able to easily take it back anyway.
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I'll support you.
And no EE, you were right. Zulfy is wrong.

OhGodMyLife · Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:40 am

In post 587, N wrote:
In post 546, OhGodMyLife wrote:N, do you want to move into Bur? I'll support you if so.

are you sure? that sounds good

Yes. I didn't expect to still be in Mun this round, but now that I see what is coming next I want to stay put because I can't stop Ven's move into Tyr this turn due to support from mist, so I'll need to hold to defend myself next turn. The best option is to get you into French territory to threaten Mar, and with my support you will move into Bur even if Par tries to contest it.

In post 596, Randomnamechange wrote:I'm allying with Russia. I would still like to help Scandinavia, but I'm not allying with Germany. OGML has made it very clear he wants me gone, and once Russia falls I can be attacked from the East. If GB (who I still want to ally with) backstab us I won't get support from the rest of Scandinavia as they'll be too busy fighting on the Western Front.
Also, Germany could invade Scandinavia if they build fleets.

Let's clear this up. I very much appreciate your decision to not take the Baltic, and since you didn't I have no quarrel with you. As it stands right now none of the German states will be gaining a build this year, so there is no possibility of German fleets. I don't even have a coast to build fleets. The honorary German navy belongs to the Low Countries and Denmark, and they're engaged in the battle for the North Sea. No one is coming for Sweden. So with all that said, I think you need to reconsider your alliance with Russia, because Russia is the only place you can expand and gain territory. Germany will withdraw and defend itself against you if you move into the Baltic, and you're blocked in from the west by your Scandinavian allies. But I will gladly help you take StP in the coming turns. Warsaw will fall soon, and after that we'll be in position to make it happen.

In post 599, Gale Wing Srock wrote:Lady Lambdadelta and OGML, would you be comfortable with Random moving to Baltic Sea in the fall for support?

Still no. The Baltic is Germany's Achilles heel. Anyone who moves there will be considered an enemy.

@everyone, YOU NEED TO CONTROL ADDITIONAL SUPPLY CENTERS TO MAKE ADDITIONAL UNITS. NORTH AFRICA AND ALL OTHER NON SUPPLY CENTER SPACES ARE VALUABLE ONLY FOR THEIR POSITION ON THE BOARD. THEY DO NOT GRANT MORE UNITS. FOR ANYONE TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL UNITS IT HAS TO COME AT THE EXPENSE OF ANOTHER PLAYER.