Shaman Mafia [Endgame]

Spiffeh · Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:39 am

Like why do people think the powers I got and TTH's claim can both exist

Egg · Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:15 am

I should mention my reasons for being vague are so scum doesn't have as much info when making their kill because I think today is clear cut so if we have a tomorrow I'd rather wait until then to discuss what to do. But for those I shared QTs last night, think about who was killed and why. Let's not screw this up.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:41 am

VOTE: Copper

> Brian was town

> copper has been on two failing rituals

> TTH I defended you so much this game, please stop voting me that is seriously wack

> I've been voting Copper, who is scum, since yesterday

> MFW:

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:52 am

Spiffeh is scum with Copper.

Egg is town. He can only be scum if TTH is scum. Both of them being scum would not explain why a ritual with me, Copper, and Brian on it failed. Brian's paranoia about it being disrupted from 3rd party forces has no basis. GI clearly wanted town to win after being lynched and he clearly did not disrupt the ritual. That ritual failed because scum was on it, pretending to be a Shaman. It was not Brian and it was not me.

Since Egg is town and Copper is scum, that leaves TTH and Spiffeh as the only other people who can be the last scum. I'm heavily leaning Spiffeh even though he was on a passing ritual. There is no reason why Mafia cannot have a Shaman on their team. The town has seen both Animals and Shaman in their ranks. We've seen one mafia flip so far and it was distinctly not-Shaman. There must be a Shaman among the mafia though because otherwise the ritual would be too powerful as a soft-cop mechanic. The ritual is about getting -shaman- on it, not town. If the point were to get town on it, then it'd be too much of a town-sided mechanic.

I realize that even if the above is true, it does not constitute a reason to believe Spiffeh is scum. Spiffeh is scum because TTH is town. Thats it. Also his interactions with Copper yesterday read very inorganic.

Spiffeh · Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:54 am

Literally none of that explains how you could possibly be townreading TTH lol

Spiffeh · Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:55 am

No one has given me a good reason why TTH is town actually

Everyone is just taking her for granted

This is not her town game

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:00 am

I don't think TTH's sticky push on me is from scum. The Brian kill sets it up to be me vs TTH today.

Spiffeh · Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:01 am

What is TTH's sticky push

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:08 am

She has been calling me scummy and voting me for several phases in a row. I keep bringing it up and it doesn't deter her. The way she goes about it is town.

I also just don't see a TTH/Copper scumteam going to lylo where both of their only options is to vote me. TTH because she's been an anti-AP echo chamber for the last several Days and Copper because I'm going to push him over the failing ritual.

copper223 · Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:45 am

@Spiffeh
AP is confirmed scum, if I'm the one left around you can make your case for why TTH is the last one.

copper223 · Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:51 am

A case that hopefully doesn't include role incompatibility when we have had 2 confirmed JK flips.

Spiffeh · Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:42 pm

How is AP confirmed scum?

copper223 · Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:58 pm

For one he is alive and he could have been hammered yesterday by scum if he was town.

Second refusing to join the ritual after claiming all your reads are based on scum being on it like he did yesterday is the equivalent of a scum claim (think of why you would absolutely insist to be on it if you are town with that mindset and why you don't want to be if you are scum and that's the case), he isn't even consistent in the way he applies this "fail = scum on ritual logic" as apparently today he is calling you scum, despite you being on the ritual yesterday when it succeeded.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:19 pm

In post 2112, copper223 wrote:For one he is alive and he could have been hammered yesterday by scum if he was town.

In post 2094, Fate wrote:Final Vote Count:
AngryPidgeon (2): copper223, TellTaleHeart

Only if you and TTH are both town, which you aren't.

Unfortunately TTH is going to be the wildcard that wins or loses us this game right now. Sorry if thats blunt, TTH, but seriously its time to get with the program and stop voting me.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:20 pm

And yes it should be obvious to everyone that this is a 1v1 between me and Copper. Obviously there is precisely one scum in our group. Yes, we could lynch someone else today but really why?

copper223 · Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:33 pm

Let's not forget Brian was voting for you as well until TTH's vote.

copper223 · Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:36 pm

VOTE: AP

Egg · Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:17 am

So I'm a CO and got stabbed by a shank made from the metal in an oven rack today and they gave me a sick day for the first half of my shift so I might have some time to read what I missed later, but I'm going to bed at 9:30 AM because ERs are slow and shitty.

But the following thought came to mind for now:
Spiff, did you ever say how you got that investigation?

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:45 am

In post 2113, AngryPidgeon wrote:Unfortunately TTH is going to be the wildcard that wins or loses us this game right now. Sorry if thats blunt, TTH, but seriously its time to get with the program and stop voting me.

Alright-y then...
Why did you not volunteer for the ritual yesterday?

Spiffeh · Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:18 pm

TTH why are you being so unlike your town self in this game

Why does no one else see you're scum like I do?

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:34 pm

In post 2119, Spiffeh wrote:TTH why are you being so unlike your town self in this game

I really haven't been. You've just never seen this kind of game from me. I have games where I get into a mental funk and I just get sucked into a blah state and this happens to be one of them.

Right now, I'm kind of waiting for AP to suss out what happened with him and what he was thinking regarding the rituals.

Egg · Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:27 pm

I caught up and kept having questions for AP but he answered them all already.

To clarify, AP and Copper have both claimed shaman, correct?

copper223 · Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:46 pm

@TTH
What is your read on Spiffeh?

@Egg
Yes I am a Yachak Shaman and AP claimed to be a Queva Medicine Man, which according to his claim is this game's version of a vanilla shaman, we know btw there is nobody else that is claiming vanilla as we have all claimed to have acquired powers during the night phase or from the get go, figure that.

@All
Egg has a point about not giving scum a road-map for the NKs and I already know that AP is scum so I am not playing town mayor today, for the townies that still need to decide, what is your excuse? This level of interaction is a waste of day-time.

Egg · Post Post #2123 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:09 am

I'm still deciding between two

Fate · Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:26 am

Copy paste error corrected. Brian Skies flip reads as: Druid [Celtic Shaman]